Iran showed its first stealth fighter.

But Iran, they don't give a ....they will just fire that wereever the like. And you don't need a super guidance systemt that will guide the missle within 10 meters or so. A mile would be fine. Detonate the sucker over som major Israely City and we get a full scale war.

That is not true. We have never attacked any country and other than Israel we have never threaten any country and the only reason we are threatening Israel is because they have threatened us first. Iran/Iraq war left more than half a million Iranians dead and over half a trillion dollars was wasted. We just want to make sure this would never happen again.

Originally posted by Russian

Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
This will not be the first time I have mentioned this, do not bash on other Memebers.

These forums are for structured intelligent critizism(the occasional laugh is acceptable as well).

Please if you have opinions post them, but not in the way that it will damage other memeber's egos.

After all we were all newbies once weren't we?

Shattered OUT...

West point a newbie?

I never said westpoint was a new memeber, although his registration date suggests that I've been here before him.

Shattered OUT...

Iran cannot make a stealth fighter end of story.

Can you prove what you are saying??

Can you prove what you are saying??

They simply don't have the funds.

This is just common sense. Only an idiot would even try to argue that Iran has a stealth fighter. They only produced their first fighters in the late 90's, and those were remoddled Tomcats...

Originally posted by Disturbed Deliverer

Can you prove what you are saying??

They simply don't have the funds.

This is just common sense. Only an idiot would even try to argue that Iran has a stealth fighter. They only produced their first fighters in the late 90's, and those were remoddled Tomcats...

are you talking about Azarakhsh? or Saghe ?? or maybe you are talking about Tazvir trainer?

Dude, even if they could develop a stealth fighter it would cost so much money that Iran would fall into poverty. Also whats with Iran saying it has stealth, I mean first stealth missles now this. Plus they wouldn't be able to afford to make more than say one or two. Then again back in WWII when aircraft were painted like camoflague it was also called stealth.

Originally posted by cyberdude78
Dude, even if they could develop a stealth fighter it would cost so much money that Iran would fall into poverty. Also whats with Iran saying it has stealth, I mean first stealth missles now this. Plus they wouldn't be able to afford to make more than say one or two. Then again back in WWII when aircraft were painted like camoflague it was also called stealth.

Ok the problem is you are comparing the cost of making a stealth fighter in US to Iran. For example; F-22 cost $2 Billion dollars each to produce but this doesn�t mean its gonna cost the same in Iran plus having around 10 to 20 stealth fighters would be enough for Iran even if it will cost us $2 Billion dollars each and this is something that we can defiantly manage.

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Yes, Iran maybe does not have stealth fighters now, but as time goes on, I' am sure they will have the funding to build their own stealth fighters.

Remember, every nation has its glory decades, America's just happens to be during this generation.

Shattered OUT...

Originally posted by persian

Originally posted by cyberdude78
Dude, even if they could develop a stealth fighter it would cost so much money that Iran would fall into poverty. Also whats with Iran saying it has stealth, I mean first stealth missles now this. Plus they wouldn't be able to afford to make more than say one or two. Then again back in WWII when aircraft were painted like camoflague it was also called stealth.

Ok the problem is you are comparing the cost of making a stealth fighter in US to Iran. For example; F-22 cost $2 Billion dollars each to produce but this doesn�t mean its gonna cost the same in Iran plus having around 10 to 20 stealth fighters would be enough for Iran even if it will cost us $2 Billion dollars each and this is something that we can defiantly manage.

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Actually, the F-22 Raptor is worth approximately $100M.

Big deal

Sweden got a stealth-boat since a few years back (and sweden is quite small country)

"The Visby Class corvette is the first vessel in the world to have fully developed stealth technology, combined with high operational versatility. The outstanding stealth properties fundamentally change the ship's survivability and improve its mission effectiveness.
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www.air-attack.com...

Originally posted by Kollapse
Big deal

Sweden got a stealth-boat since a few years back (and sweden is quite small country)

"The Visby Class corvette is the first vessel in the world to have fully developed stealth technology, combined with high operational versatility. The outstanding stealth properties fundamentally change the ship's survivability and improve its mission effectiveness.
"

www.air-attack.com...

Kollapse, you do realize that there are more technology involve in making a stealth fighter than making a stealth boat right?


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yeah, just add wings to the boat

We are building a rational to attack Iran and we will use anything at our desposal even a propaganda photo from some Iranian Public Affairs ministry. I have also notice that to many people play Command and Conqer games, and then translate them to real world, but the funny thing is war kills people and costs huge amounts money (more red ink for future generations to pay off). I hear speculations all the time as though people are panting for more war is spring up. Don't let yourself be a tool of the constant information war being waged not only by America but by the rest of the world. The Iranians are as far from have stealth capability as I am from sleeping with Fredrick's of Hollywood model.

Originally posted by Harry12
We are building a rational to attack Iran and we will use anything at our desposal even a propaganda photo from some Iranian Public Affairs ministry. .... I hear speculations all the time as though people are panting for more war is spring up. Don't let yourself be a tool of the constant information war being waged not only by America but by the rest of the world.

Unfortunately this is becoming an alarming tendancy of late. People falling over themselves to find new enemies so to allow the american military industrial complex to continue. They believe it makes them secure when it only increases the likely hood of them becoming targets

If they can't find an excuse to go to war against china or Iran or NK they will manufacture one. THe only solution is to vote them out of power in november....save us from this tyranny

"never attacked any country and other than Israel we have never threaten any country and the only reason we are threatening Israel is because they have threatened us first. Iran/Iraq war left more than half a million Iranians dead and over half a trillion dollars was wasted. We just want to make sure this would never happen again.?
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Not quite true Persian.
You "attacked" the United States of America when you kidnapped and criminally held in jails over 300 American embassy staffers and employees for over 1 year in the 1980's. That American Embassy represented American soil and your country, at the time, proved it could not abide by laws of the civilized world. How is it any different today ? Most of your people dwell in unspeakable poverty while you open the door a crack to the 20th century with nuclear bombs? Quite insane, isn't it ?

Point #2 You don't cause a war and guarantee the annhilation of your own people because you were "threatened". Developing a nuclear weapon and holding it as a trump card makes you feel secure? Do you really believe your going to be respected with a few nuclear weapons? Be more concerned that your country has been named part of the triumvirate of the axis of evil. Libya smartened up real quick simply because the middle east needs to develop itself as a democratic trading partner for the world. Ending poverty and diminishing fantasicm is fueled by economic advantage. Create partnerships. Religious fantacism is simply the death rattle of frustration by Ayatollah's, clerics and mullahs who refuse to enter the 21st century and deal with a modern world with all its faults and advances.

Rather than train terrorists to kill themselves for some short term and insane plan to return the world to the 12th century, try training children and adults to be capitalists. Develop a master plan for building industries and products to help your country rather than guarantee it's annhilation.

The money you placed into nuclear weapons development would have been better served had you built a nuclear electrical generating plant. Creating infrastructure and jobs is the first step in removing poverty and creating jobs. Red China is an example of allowing trade to take hold and thrive economically to allow people their dignity and escape poverty.


Decide to reject fantacism and the World Bank will be at your doorstep to help create a trading partner. The world will not recede back to the 12th century believing that your way of religious expression and freedom is superior by casting women aside as chattel or objects to be denigrated as some life form deserving to be constantly disrespected.

United States owns every military. Deny Ignorance and face the truth. Just because Joe Blow is from Iran and thinx that they can beat military xyz because they have pride for their country is hillarious. Iran is the next country in the United States cross hairs and won't put up much a fight. They'll get owned and the get ole boys in Mississipay will guzzle down a couple of buds after watching Monday night Football.