The Living Dead: Why Thousands of Russian Addicts Are Rotting to Death

Originally posted by here4awhile
how would an agency spike the marijuana...if it's grown locally...it's all up to the grower...

By producing hydroponic nutrients.

Here in Australia, hydroponic marijuana is more common than outdoor.

reply to post by Mr Mask


During prohibition in America, 'bootleg' booze was poisoned, I think there is a thread about it somewhere in ATS.com, wish I knew the title............

Originally posted by grey580
reply to post by awareness10

 

Woof. That's pretty horrendous.
It does look like something out of a horror film.

Yep it`s nastiness at it`s worst, if this has been going on for a while but without media coverage, it would seem only hollywood was privy as they seem to love making zombie movies and implanting this entire scenario into our minds.
I believe in this place what we think about most we will inevitably create, which is why i just observe things now, and detach from letting it override my mind so there is no energy between me and what they(media, slimeballs in power etc.) want us to create.

reply to post by NuclearPaul


I believe hydroponic would be more common as you can grow it all year round regardless of the outdoor weather, In countries where its not sunny all year round it would be hard to keep stocked up just on outdoor.

Well, drugs like these compromise the Immune System regardless of what drug it is or where you got it, if its man made it will do nothing good for your blood, arteries, thyroid glands, heart liver kidneys etc. And as most people are blasted on drugs anyways, im sure lots of them miss putting the needle in correctly thus creating havoc on the entire body system. The body can naturally heal itself, if it`s not bombarded with unnatural substances such as gasoline, floor cleaners and god knows what else. It`s nasty truly nasty stuff.

Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
They are talking about people who shoot up, miss a vein, get abscesses then do not treat it, eventualy the abscesses rot..

In short, its not the drug itself that does this..This could happen with any drug a person decideds to shoot up...
Its just people who hurt themselves, dont treat it and then pay the price.

edit on 30-6-2011 by ShogunAssassins because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by Dinogur
Wait, if their flesh is rotting off, how are they still allive? Anyway any on with a right mind wouldnt take that drug knowing what it does to you.

It seems to remove the pain sensation we normally get upon injury. This is to the extreme and clearly shows that the body has gone into shock preservation mode, along with people`s emotional sensory systems, to what is actually happening them. It`s like they`re in complete denial and are now subject to their God, which is this drug.. hmm it`s like that flesh eating disease a few yrs ago.
I know someone who went to Mexico on vacation almost ten years ago and stubbed her toe, she was wearing flip flops and her toe swelled a few times larger than normal and she had to have surgery. Now she`s on drugs to keep her alive, permanently. Luckily they did save her toe but She had a compromised immune system to begin with , although only mild, may have been enough to trigger this flesh eating disease.

Originally posted by Warpthal
Quite strange how this posts doesn't get deleted. Horrifying indeed.

Why would it get deleted?
This is actually happening and people should know about it.

Originally posted by Dinogur
Wait, if their flesh is rotting off, how are they still allive? Anyway any on with a right mind wouldnt take that drug knowing what it does to you.

Because the drug is the strongest pain killer they have found and their life is so miserable they don't care of they live or die.

Originally posted by Vanishr
I hope this is nothing in relation to ;




Im just waiting for the day when this horrible card comes into play.

Erm...

Necrotizing fasciitis (NF), commonly known as flesh-eating disease or Flesh-eating bacteria syndrome,[1] is a rare infection of the deeper layers of skin and subcutaneous tissues, easily spreading across the fascial plane within the subcutaneous tissue.

Type I describes a polymicrobial infection, whereas Type II describes a monomicrobial infection. Many types of bacteria can cause necrotizing fasciitis (e.g., Group A streptococcus (Streptococcus pyogenes), Staphylococcus aureus, Vibrio vulnificus, Clostridium perfringens, Bacteroides fragilis). Such infections are more likely to occur in people with compromised immune systems.[2]

Historically, Group A streptococcus made up most cases of Type II infections. However, since as early as 2001, another serious form of monomicrobial necrotizing fasciitis has been observed with increasing frequency.[3] In these cases, the bacterium causing it is methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), a strain of S. aureus that is resistant to methicillin, the antibiotic used in the laboratory that determines the bacterium's sensitivity to flucloxacillin or nafcillin that would be used for treatment clinically.

Several studies demonstrated a link between absorption of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs and flesh-eating disease, without establishing whether the drugs just masked the symptoms or were a cause per se.

Source

This has been around for more than a few years now, it does not get much coverage however.



More on topic, I cannot believe that an addiction would become so intense that you would continue to use a drug that visibly destroys your body like this in a way that is clear to see.

Shocking.

Originally posted by ..5..

Why would it get deleted?
This is actually happening and people should know about it.

I agree, but it would/could get deleted because ATS is very fussy about links to disturbing images and any conversation about drugs. Even something like this, which is legitimate news and should get discussed, imho, often ends up with boneheads discussing other drugs. Not unlike the "hydrophonic" off topic conversation going on in this thread which should stop before it gets the thread closed. Hint. Hint.

reply to post by Mr Mask


Dead addicts bring less profits for the local distributor and affiliated "groups". But there's always a way around for those with enough money and ambition.

Like the Krokodil example, users will just switch to another substance that'll provide similar effects. There's enough knowledge and chemicals available to make the war on drugs almost endless.

Time will tell, but something tells me that the laws will eventually change as to concentrate the ressources against those substances that truly are dangerous to society.

reply to post by Vio1ion


Im not sure you read the article, but this is a home cooked drug, not one the addicts rely on "dealers" to get. Its a substitute for their drug of choice, heroin.

They are making it with codeine tablets and various other nasty chemicals including iodine and paint thinner, all of which can be purchased over the counter in Russia currently. Which is the problem. The war on drugs has led to such high prices for their drug of choice they are turning to this witches brew they can obtain and make legally, but which is far more horrific than the drug that is illegal.

It said that there were calls to make the codeine tablets prescription only like here in the states, but that pharmaceutical companies were fighting it, as they made a lot of money from their free sale, and this drug has driven their profits up as demand for the codeine has increased a good deal since this drug was invented 4-5 years ago.

I think that's the most shocking thing I've ever seen relating to drug abuse. Good God, how long before this things use spreads across the globe?
As hopeful as I am that more people won't go down this route - anything you can knock up in a kitchen desperate people and experimenting kids are going to be prone to it. Even the name 'Crocodile' has a disturbingly cool ring to it.
I genuinely fear we are all going to see more of this.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


I did read It. I was answering Mr Mask about the possibility of spiking supplies.

It seems that the main reason why Krokodil does this to flesh is because of iodine. To obtain the desired chemical, there's surely more than one recipe. The better recipes are kept secret to keep the money flowing.

Originally posted by Suspiria
I think that's the most shocking thing I've ever seen relating to drug abuse. Good God, how long before this things use spreads across the globe?

Well, the good news for America is that the main ingredient isnt over the counter here, (codeine tablets) so it really shouldnt take off here.

But anywhere in Europe or the world where you can buy codeine over the counter should be worried, quite frankly, that it will spread like methamphetamine use spread across the US over the last 20 odd years. (It is a similar drug in the sense that what caused it to spread was that at one time, you could freely buy all the ingredients to make it at home over the counter)

Honestly, its time people really evaluated the war on drugs. We havent reduced the number of addicts, really, but we have driven prices up, made drug cartels wealthy and powerful and dangerous, inspired the creation of worse drugs, driven up the cost of housing drug offenders in prison, and the making drugs scarce just makes them more expensive, which means addicts commit more crimes to pay for their habits.

Why are we doing all that when it isnt saving any addicts from themselves, really, and its costing us all so much in so many ways? We need to rethink the whole thing, imho.

reply to post by Vio1ion


Well, I dont know if they are kept "secret." The articles I have read make it sound like this is just the "we can buy the chemicals on the street for cheap" version that the addicts themselves discovered 4-5 years ago.

I dont think this drug is a plot. I think its a very sad unintended consequence of the drug war. Bottom line, you arent going to cure addiction by keeping a specific drug off the streets. Addicts will just tinker around until they make a substitute, and no matter how awful the consequences, they will use it. Because they are addicts.

reply to post by awareness10


This is a BIG issue in Iran as well, no matter how much the Iranian regime wants to hide the fact. Great Topic!

Well, the good news for America is that the main ingredient isnt over the counter here, (codeine tablets) so it really shouldnt take off here.

Because we dont have junkies murdering people for oxy and addicts lifting pseudofed or anything.

No problem at all because it's not "over the counter."

reply to post by thisguyrighthere


You arent seeing why Krokodil is taking off over there. Its not because people just want it, its because its easily available and the drug they really want isnt. Its a substitute for what they really want.

In America, Krokodil would be no easier to make than just getting the Oxy or whatever you wanted in the first place, because a key ingredient used in its creation is not over the counter here like it is in Russia. There would be no motive to pursue it, rather than the drug you liked better in the first place because they would be equally hard to get your hands on, and obviously, Krokodil is less desirable for obvious reasons.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander

Honestly, its time people really evaluated the war on drugs. We havent reduced the number of addicts, really, but we have driven prices up, made drug cartels wealthy and powerful and dangerous, inspired the creation of worse drugs, driven up the cost of housing drug offenders in prison, and the making drugs scarce just makes them more expensive, which means addicts commit more crimes to pay for their habits. Why are we doing all that when it isnt saving any addicts from themselves, really, and its costing us all so much in so many ways? We need to rethink the whole thing, imho.

Correct!

This is in fact the only point people need take from this thread. The war on drugs is so wrong on so many fronts -- too many to list in fact -- that it needs to stop. NOW!

Treat drug addiction as a medical problem, because that is what it is, and take the crime/drug/prison industry out of it.

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by awareness10

 

Wow. Thats intense. Especially the photos linked to.

Well for all the people who fear the government is trying to "depopulate," if they REALLY wanted to, they would just make drugs like this easy to get, everywhere. It wouldnt take long to lower the population if it were.

No, you have it all backwards IMO.
Krap like Krocodil is a result of drugs being hard to get, which forces an addict to use alternatives.

They are using Kroc because it is easy to get, because heroin is hard to get.

Sorry, you are right, but you said : "they would just make drugs like this easy to get, everywhere." But it is easy to get in Russia, Arrrgh!, then you said "everywhere"

You cover your bases quite well!

But, you know what I mean, I hope so, because I don't.