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The U.S. health care system has become one gigantic money making scam, and you are about to see the statistics that prove it. Today, the United States spends more on health care per person than any other country in the world by far. The health insurance companies and the big pharmaceutical corporations are raking in gigantic mountains of cash and yet the quality of the health care that we receive in return is rather quite poor. People living in Puerto Rico have a greater life expectancy
than we do. Residents of Cuba have a lower infant mortality rate than we do. We are the most medicated population on the planet and yet we are also one of the sickest.
[#1 What the United States spent on health care in 2009 was greater than the entire GDP of Great Britain.
#2 According to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, health care costs accounted for just 9.5% of all personal consumption back in 1980. Today they account for approximately 16.3%.
[#9 Even as the rest of the country struggled with a deep recession, U.S. health insurance companies increased their profits by 56 percent during 2009 alone.
#33 today, people living in Puerto Rico have a greater life expectancy than people living in the United States do.
#49 If the U.S. health care system was a country, it would be the 6th largest economy in the entire world.
Originally posted by VAPatriot
These are interesting statistics. Although, # 33 has me puzzled.
Isn't Puerto Rico a U.S. territory and the United States Congress legislates many aspects of Puerto Rican life?
Makes me think some of these statistics should be varified.
Originally posted by watcher3339
Health in the U.S. is tricky.
Our diet sucks. There is no way around it. Unless you are growing your own (as many here are) there is no real way to know what is or is not in your food. We live in areas that hosted massive manufacturing and its inherent waste prior to regulations. The Super Fund has done some to clean up but huge parts of the country will still take decades to recover. The "Cancer Alley" of the Northeast is not only in that region of the country it is also close enough to the Uranium mining in Canada that fine particulates can become airborne and end up in that region. Naturally occuring radon, etc.
Now, as far as the actual health care goes: the rest of the developed (and a few developing) countries that offer universal healthcare could not get the results that they do without a private U.S. system. Innovation happens here. And it is expensive. The research and development costs of all the failed projects get rolled into the cost of the projects that yield results. On one level I am more than okay with that because we do get those break throughs. And, if you have a good health care plan, you can take advantage of it at a reasonable cost.
But, when those break throughs trickle overseas the U.S. consumer is already covering the cost of the research. So it is much cheaper.
Socialized medicine across the world has benefited from capitalized medicine here.
If the U.S. were to drastically change its system there would be less incentive for new development. It is at the very heart of our system that risk yields reward. But, at the same time, I don't know anyone who would really like to see someone (to make the argument as strong as possible we'll say a child) go without health care if they need it.
BUT, the costs of those in the U.S. system who get mandated care (E.R. can't turn you away, but how many people never actually pay the bill?) end up rolled into the costs of the insured. There are business involved and they have to cover their costs and turn a profit.
A nationalized payer system: the part that was left out of "ObamaCare" would stop that since everyone would be covered but other than the fact that it relates to a touch feely thing like health care such an idea is totally anathema to our system, culture, and national identity.
People who run things in other countries can't really want to see that happen either. How would they make their nationalized system work without the U.S. absorbing the research cost?
I don't know the answer.
Originally posted by CaptChaos
Originally posted by watcher3339
Now, as far as the actual health care goes: the rest of the developed (and a few developing) countries that offer universal healthcare could not get the results that they do without a private U.S. system. Innovation happens here. And it is expensive. The research and development costs of all the failed projects get rolled into the cost of the projects that yield results. On one level I am more than okay with that because we do get those break throughs. And, if you have a good health care plan, you can take advantage of it at a reasonable cost.
But, when those break throughs trickle overseas the U.S. consumer is already covering the cost of the research. So it is much cheaper.
A nationalized payer system: the part that was left out of "ObamaCare" would stop that since everyone would be covered but other than the fact that it relates to a touch feely thing like health care such an idea is totally anathema to our system, culture, and national identity.
People who run things in other countries can't really want to see that happen either. How would they make their nationalized system work without the U.S. absorbing the research cost?
I don't know the answer.
What is all this "innovation" and "development" you are talking about? The innovation of hundreds of new wonder drugs every year, untested yet foisted on an unsuspecting populace? The development of new ways to gouge you on the billing, and mandatory ripoff insurance?
Humans have not changed, nor have the things that make you healthy. As posted above, what has changed is the DIET. You are all eating poison all the time.
Remember YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT. This could not be more true. Your entire body is made out of stuff you ate. So if all you eat is McDonalds and other garbage, YOUR BODY IS MADE OF GARBAGE. Chances are you will get sick all the time. But just pop your wonder drugs that your local pusher, I mean doctor, pushed on you and you will be fine!
#1 What the United States spent on health care in 2009 was greater than the entire GDP of Great Britain.
two out of three statistics are made up on the spot?