An Israeli algorithm sheds light on the Bible

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I can't believe people are so biased that they would think that just because a book is associated with religion that people 2000 to 6000 years ago wouldn't have written down accounts of actual events they witnessed that was later compounded into what we today call "The Bible".

A work of fiction eh..

A good example would be Dr. Clifford Wilson, an Australian archeologist has documented roughly 5000 discoveries that provide evidence to the historical nature of biblical accounts. A number which grows daily as new discoveries are made (In the field.. I don't think Dr. Wilson is alive anymore).

His Credentials.

Dr. Wilson obtained his M.A. in archaeology from the University of Sydney in Australia (1958), his B.D. from Melbourne College of Divinity (1968), and his Ph.D. in psycholinguistics from the University of South Carolina (1972). His Ph.D. included "A"s for field work in archaeology undertaken in association with Hebrew Union College in Jerusalem. He has explored many of the mideastern archaeological sites, and in 1969 served as area supervisor of the excavation of Gezer in Israel.

Also.. and I know the source isn't the best but bear with me..

THE British Museum yesterday hailed a discovery within a clay tablet in its collection as a breakthrough for biblical archeology - proof of the accuracy of the Old Testament.The cuneiform inscription in a tablet dating from 595BC has been deciphered for the first time - revealing a reference to an official at the court of Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, that proves the historical existence of a figure mentioned in the Book of Jeremiah

Source

I'm sure I could go on all day.. And actually there are a lot of historical accounts of Babylon (battles, people and other events) in the bible that have been confirmed...

To think that a book written by a hundred or so authors living thousands of years ago would have just made it all up to control the masses (some of which was before Judiasm itself was even established) is pure unadulterated bias... I understand if you are an Atheist... but to discount a 2000-6000 year old book just because you don't like the idea of god is pretty idiotic if you ask me.

Then again you may be right and those people just wrote a bunch of lies down to enslave the masses way way way way after they had already long died just because they thought it would be funny n' stuff.

I care less about so called scientific experiments if it has to do with religion..because 9 times out of 10 its boring...

More info on this over at PhysOrg:

www.physorg.com...

Advanced math and the bible? So let's try another combination, say, paganism and marketing. See where that leads, maybe some witchcrafty slogans will result.

Just don't see a computer program that will answer all life's questions, this isn't Hitchhiker's Guide to the galaxy

Originally posted by DaMod
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A work of fiction eh..

Yep, the biggest work of ever written and ever read.
Second line, the bibles FICTION

It was done on ATS first.

Book of Revelation: A REAL Vision' or a FAKE Prophecy' PatchedTogether from Scraps of 'Old" Test

And done old school to boot.

Originally posted by EspyderMan

Originally posted by bobs_uruncle

Originally posted by steppenwolf86
From what I learned in Catholic school, there are different rabbinical viewpoints and authors within the book of genesis, amongst others. Elohim, Yahweh, Priestly and something else. As far as I know, this is nothing new, other than an analyzation of the different authors. How does this disprove God? Is God not allowed to speak through multiple people? Why are so many people so eager to mock religious belief that they post something that has been well known for centuries as so called proof that God does not exist?

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I am not trying to be a pain here, but.... Let's say I was like all powerful and I could take over people minds and talk/write "through them." Now if I could do that, it would always be ME doing the talking, the style wouldn't change, it would not be the people I took over doing the mental formulation and structuring of communication. So, if we are to believe that God "wrote" the bible, then we must believe that He has some kind of multiple personality disorder. This isn't to say that I don't believe the bible was inspired by the creator, cosmic muffin, spaghetti monster, etc., however, I do believe the original teachings have been corrupted by people with an agenda, eg mainstream religions, ALL OF THEM. I don't care if you're catholic, muslim, protestant, mormon, etc... these days and maybe for the last thousand years or more, what may have been a beautiful written account of history is now a programming tool. Everyone's got an agenda who promotes their version of "salvation."

Cheers - Dave

edit on 6/29.2011 by bobs_uruncle because: oops

It was explained it was not dictation, but inspired writing. God Inspired them to write the words and they did so in their own unique way, in a way they understood. Why is this simple point that's already been written easily missed?

Irrational thoughts stem from emotions taking control of your logic, making a response seem like an attack and mostly, most times, makes little sense or misses key points. Rational discussions are much more fruitful.

Let me get this, I make perfect sense through an analogy and you're saying I am not rational? Listen up bubba, never mind... Why do I bother LOL. Those who believe require no proof.

Cheers - Dave

Originally posted by Marid Audran

Originally posted by bobs_uruncle

Originally posted by steppenwolf86
From what I learned in Catholic school...

I am not trying to be a pain here, but.... Let's say I was like all powerful and I could take over people minds and talk/write "through them."

Cheers - Dave

edit on 6/29.2011 by bobs_uruncle because: oops

Yeah but that is not how it actually works. Let's say you and your friends meet me and I am an awesome guy. I do all these cool tricks like turning PBR into an awesome Lager. I tell you some of my thoughts on life and how it should be.

Now, you and your friends are so struck with how cool I am that each of you go onto your favorite forum and post about our encounter. I have inspired all of you, and all of you write basically the same thing but in different ways because you all have different levels of talent and experiences to draw upon. And sure, you add your own points and how it relates to what is going on in your lives right now.

That is the way we Catholics understand it. It's not so much a dictation as an inspiration.

I guess if the pope pulled out a red cell phone and said he just talked to God, you'd believe that too? Inspiration, I guess like the Rothschilds and snake oil salesmen like Rockefeller were inspired? That fit the bill?

You must think I am one of those feckless dumbed-down 18 year old meat-puppets fresh out of indoctrination, is that right? That maybe my ideas or opinions come from some book someplace or an @ssclown teacher? Wrong, they come from over 50 years of watching the world burn. I am happy you're Catholic, you have your idolatry, mock cannibalism plus thousands of sexually dysfunctional "priests" and I have my science, engineering (almost 40 years of it for my work about now) and natural law, which is simply trying to understand the mind that made all of this and correctly use that knowledge. I think that's more rational/noble/intelligent/etc. anyway, than blindly following, like some sheep, an antiquated dogma put in place to control people through fear. It did a good job, but hey, it's gettin' old. But you of course have every right to believe what you want and what you believe in, as do I. And if it gets thrown into a public forum, expect opinions you may not like, as I do.

Cheers - Dave

Originally posted by daskakik
It was done on ATS first.

Book of Revelation: A REAL Vision' or a FAKE Prophecy' PatchedTogether from Scraps of 'Old" Test

And done old school to boot.

Er..

Uh..

That's the other end of the book. Turn it over. One end of it was written around 1350 b.c. by "Moses", in the desert.

"A Revelation" (at the other end of the book) was written around 100AD or so by "John" whilst in an island jail. You know, like Napoleon. I think both of them shroomed because you know, magic mushrooms are like the dirty secret of both Moses, John AND Napoleon. All three of them munched some shrooms, and this is historically likely! Oh and don't forget that super old mummy who was older than both of them and was found buried with some fine cannabis as well!

You people really do overcomplicate some simple shaznatts sometimes. Look, wouldn't we all have preferred if Napoleon had been like Jesus instead of Bar Kokchba? Well, since Napoleon was the tool of the "Judean Talmud Usury Baronic Destruction Force", they were happy to use him as a tool for world shenanigans. Even as a complete tool, he served his purpose by being a tool, then wrecking his final army against Russia. JUST LIKE HITLER. Both of these were tools of talmud-usurists.

But John of Patmos, well, he's more of a doom tyrant. His vision has been used to create "end times" frequency, which is useful to all tyrants.

Moses, otoh, was a good man, a peaceful Pharaoh. His name, emblem, and person, have been stolen by the talmud crew. They really suggest that both torah and talmud were given at Sinai. They lie, they disgrace Moses, and frankly I expect that if he ever comes back, he will severely beat them for their disobedience.

Consider these Judeans of today. How confused they are! And yet, how solidified and amalgamated through trauma they are! Not their own trauma, but the idea of it, to which they adhere.

Well, most of these Judean mindless drones of today, have not had persecution THEMSELVES, but they (like any 'oppressed group') will adhere to the suffering of others, meaning "my gramma was in tha camps! Therefore I am in the camps with her forever!!!". Which is fine, unless you want to forge that suffering into a weapon. Understanding a prison camp and holocaust (holo-caust = ritually burned sacrifice to gain power) of some Jews, and the subsequent elevation of other Judeans, takes time. It takes study. It takes, honesty and integrity, not deception.

So if a nation, today has "By deception" as their main rule, how shall they ever have any good people, in that nation? A bunch of hurt-associates who nurse historical trauma without getting to the root of it? LAME.

So some 25 year old tard in State of Israel, he's brainwashed to think how they teach him. He in born into, MODERN MASADA, called, Israel, State of. and this Judean kid, he's got no reason to study the truth of the Mishnah (compiled after Bar Kokchba) and Torah (written by the early authors and redactors), no he's too busy wondering if Iron Shield defense systems will work or not (answer: not).

Here is truth: 20k Judeans were "Killed by plague" right after Jesus lived, right at the time of Masada, and Bar Kochba. Strangely, this is the same amount (precisely) who were killed by YHWH at Peor. 20k dead in one case, then comes in the "Day of Atonement". Then, again, 1500 or so years later, another 20k dead, exactly?

Consider events at Peor, compared to events at Masada. Where is Balaam, in the modern version of the tale? As I recall, he rode a donkey. Yes, this man Balaam was said to be the greatest "magic worker" of his time. Even greater than Moses? NO WAY! Haha, See, Balaam is the key to the whole thing.

How many "world champions" of anything, do you see riding a donkey? Typically they are on horseback like Napoleon. But see, Yeshua/Jesus is the ultimate anti-hero. That guy wouldn't cooperate with anyone, and that's why he is the worldbeater of history. And why he is the favorite son of Moses, hence the transfiguration where Jesus is shown with Moses and Elijah. PLEASE NOTE that the counterpunchers at Peor, the women haters, elevate their guy Phineas, to the same level. At any local library you can turn to "P" and read the entry under Phineas where it says "Many rabbis feel Phineas in his his righteous zeal, is the forerunner of the messiah." ...So the Judeans have their messiah, he is the whore-slayer, Phineas. And the other group (like me) hold to the actual, good messiah, Yeshua/Jesus, who is the whore-defender. As when Jesus defended a prostitute from the Phineas crowd who were eager to crack her skull with rocks, Jesus told them to step off.

Peor, before, with the whore. There is your intergalactic stage play. And like at Amarna and like in Ireland, it is the shelias who have the real power. Men determine their alignment in how they align with the female. That is the truth, and I have described the two bodies in Judean orbit around the female, and I have described their difference. One slays the whore, and one loves her. One sees children as fuel for tyranny, one sees the child as the model of how we should see ourselves. Can you see these two poles countering each other in our world today? Do you see the polarity and that it revolves around women, and children?

www.rabbiwein.com...

Friday, May 20, 2011

The thirty third day of the counting of the omer days between Pesach and Shavuot has become, by Jewish tradition, a minor holiday on our yearly calendar. The origin of this day of commemoration lies in the Talmud’s reference to it as the day when the disciples of Rabbi Akiva stopped dying. Most commentators interpret this to mean that the deadly plague that afflicted thousands of disciples of Rabbi Akiva had run its course and abated after the thirty-third day of the omer counting.

There is some opinion that this may refer to the participation of Rabbi Akiva and his disciples in the revolt of Bar Kochba against Roman oppression and that these thousands of disciples were killed by the Romans during and after the failed rebellion. However, we will view the actual origin of this day of muted celebration as it has morphed into something more than its original commemoration, through the addition of Jewish customs adopted over the ages.

This man above, describes how things "morph".

Haha, yeah, "morphing". What's that saying? "History is morphed by the winners"? Or is it the losers who do the morphing? I read a rabbi who said that Akiva wrote the lesser prophets in a rush, at the demand of the Romans, otherwise he'd be killed like all the other Judeans were. Akiva may have saved his skin by writing these books right there on the spot. At least the Judeans would always have babylon, since they had been entrenched there for centuries via the spice trade which Judah Ha Nasi (compiler of the mishnah) was wealthy from. Silk and spice and everything nice. One wonders why Jesus called them vipers, surely their silk was good. But even though they had good silk from Babylon, these Pharisees, Jesus did not value their cash registers, and he overturned the store. I doubt it was because they overcharged him for a silk hanky, probably it was a more spiritual battle. Jesus of course did not even have one Roman penny, when asked a question about the tax. He had to ask for a penny to make his point.

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I meant using the algorithm to identify different authors. I'm sure it can be applied to any of the books in the bible.

Don't know about the mushrooms, but they would not have been needed if someone just took parts from existing texts.