The Abomination of Desolation Happens on Passover

I can 100% show you it happens on Passover if anyone cares?

reply to post by Stargate2012


Well.. Yea, people wouldn't click this thread if they didn't care somewhat.

Nice "post".

Bye.

reply to post by chancemusky


I am overwhelmed at what I just figured out. I will explain very soon. Don't say "bye" just yet!

Great idea for a thread!

reply to post by dmac359


I am going to start out explaining what "abomination" means. It means worshipping false gods, which was the greatest abomination in the Bible.

The Abomination of Desolation

When Yeshua (Jesus) tells us the signs of his second coming, he quotes Daniel by telling us, “When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place … for then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” (See Matthew 24:15-21 for complete quote.) Daniel 12:11 tells us that this abomination that maketh desolate will start a final count of 1290 days until the end of days, so recognizing it is very important to understanding Bible prophecy of the very end of time. But what does this phrase mean, and how will we recognize it when it happens? The following word study gives us some excellent clues.

The Hebrew word used for “abomination” in Daniel is Strong’s # 8251, shiqquts, defined as: disgusting, filthy, idolatrous. This word appears approximately 25 times throughout the Old Testament. The overwhelming majority of the time that the word abomination is used, it is linked with idols, other gods, or some type of worship that displeases God. A sampling of uses of this word are found in Deuteronomy 29:17 (context: idols); 1 Kings 11:5 and 7 (Solomon turned to other gods); 2 Kings 23:13, 24 (King Josiah put away mediums, images, idols, abominations). It appears several times in the book of Jeremiah, 7:30 (set abominations in my house…to pollute it), 13:27 (lewdness, whoredom, abominations), 32:34 (abominations in the temple). It is also used frequently in Ezekiel: 5:11 (defiled my sanctuary), 7:20 (images of their abominations); 20:7-8 (abominations of his eyes, idols); 37:23 (idols, detestable things).

This same trend continues. Here are more examples of abominations being linked with breaking God’s law: Deuteronomy 23:17-18: Bringing a whore into house of YHVH (breaking a statute that falls under the adultery command), Deuteronomy 24:4: Former husband not to remarry former wife who was married to another husband in the interim (adultery), Deuteronomy 25:14-16: False weights and measures (stealing); Deuteronomy 27:15: Graven image (idol). Again, all of these are examples of broken commandments being called an abomination.

Often the things called abominations involve not just the breaking of one of God’s Ten Commandments, but breaking them as a form of false worship. Examples: Deuteronomy 7:25-26: graven images of false gods are an abomination. This is breaking the command against graven images, done as a form of worship to a false god. Deuteronomy 12:31: every abomination which God hates, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.” This is breaking the command against murder and offering blood sacrifices, done as a form of worship to a false god. Deuteronomy 17:1-5: The gist is about sacrificing something with blemishes, transgressing God’s covenant, serving other gods, and worship of the sun or moon. This is breaking the command to have no other gods before Him, done as a form of worship to a false god. Deuteronomy 18:9-12: Do not the abominations of the surrounding nations: make son pass through fire, use divination, observe times, witchcraft, consult familiar spirits or the dead. This is breaking the command to have no other gods before Him, by consulting false gods.

Time and time again, various forms of false worship, or breaking of God’s commands in the form of worship to false gods, is called an abomination.

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Passover in 2012 will start on Saturday, the 7th of April and will continue for 7 days until Friday, the 13th of April.

Note that in the Jewish calander, a holiday begins on the sunset of the previous day, so observing Jews will celebrate Passover on the sunset of Friday, the 6th of April.

I know this is the cynical part of me showing through, but I tend to dismiss any post that start quoting scripture out of any religious text be it the bible or the book of the flying spaghetti monster. Pull religion into it and I'm apt to not believe a word of it. Not that I don't think you don't believe it with all your heart and are a true believer, but rather that the source of your predictions are based on a book written by man for man.

Show me physical proof, show me something that you don't jump up and down telling me I have to have faith in order to believe. Show me something real.

reply to post by Stargate2012

So do you believe 1290 days means 1290 years? How long has the dome of the rock been abominating exactly?

Completed 689-691 ad. 1290+691 brings us to the year 1981. Im hopeless with this sort of stuff.
Maybe im missing something.

The Fifth Book of Moses, Called
Deuteronomy
18

Warning against Heathen Practices
9 ¶ When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11 or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
13 Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.
14 For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.

The Second Book of the
Chronicles
7
19 ¶ But if ye turn away, and forsake my statutes and my commandments, which I have set before you, and shall go and serve other gods, and worship them;
20 then will I pluck them up by the roots out of my land which I have given them; and this house, which I have sanctified for my name, will I cast out of my sight, and will make it to be a proverb and a byword among all nations.
21 And this house, which is high, shall be an astonishment to every one that passeth by it; so that he shall say, Why hath the LORD done thus unto this land, and unto this house?
22 And it shall be answered, Because they forsook the LORD God of their fathers, which brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, and laid hold on other gods, and worshipped them, and served them: therefore hath he brought all this evil upon them.

Deuteronomy
12

Only One Place of Worship
1 These are the statutes and judgments, which ye shall observe to do in the land, which the LORD God of thy fathers giveth thee to possess it, all the days that ye live upon the earth.
2 Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:
3 and ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place. Deut. 7.5

reply to post by MaMaa


That is to bad. It is a theory but a very solid theory. Sorry you are so against religion and the Bible. I can't show you proof. I couldn't even show you or anyone for that matter proof that Abe Lincoln was shot in a theatre. I wasn't there, but I believe what was told.

reply to post by lestweforget


Not years, days! But lets stick with what abomination means and the timing related to it.

This would only mean anything 'real' to someone who believed the bible was fact. I don't believe that it was 'god breathed', 'god inspired' or anything of the like.

How the heck do we know for sure that these MEN who wrote this nonsense weren't just crazy off their rocker, narcissistic, sociopaths saying that 'god' was talking to them. Back then it didn't take much convincing to get people to believe that god was speaking to them or through them and that their word was to be taken the same as if god had said it. Just because someone tells you that god spoke to them, hardly makes it so.

Originally posted by Stargate2012
reply to post by MaMaa

 

That is to bad. It is a theory but a very solid theory. Sorry you are so against religion and the Bible. I can't show you proof. I couldn't even show you or anyone for that matter proof that Abe Lincoln was shot in a theatre. I wasn't there, but I believe what was told.

Not too bad at all thanks! I grew up a Christian, I have read and I have been told what to believe, yet no one could explain to me why they all chose to believe a book simply because someone told them to. I prefer to not just believe things when someone tells me to. If there is no proof that Abe Lincoln was shot then I would also not believe that. However that is far more probable than the bible ever could be.

To be clear I am not against religion or the bible, I simply don't believe it. My point is however, that your post only holds truth for those who believe that the bible is a valid text inspired by god. For those of us who don't believe there is no proof to be had here, only opinions and beliefs.

reply to post by MaMaa


Just to understand where you are coming from more about this (LOL), you believe the Bible is made up? Not God inspired? Just a bunch of crazy people writing it back than? You don't believe there is anything truth in it or that it is more or less a history book?

Anyway, believe in what you want. If you think you are going to be flying on a space ship when Comet Elenin passes close to Earth come Oct. 17th, 2011, like Heavens Gate and Halley's Comet, than that is your choice and belief. Just saying

I don't know that it is entirely made up, it seems like a history book of sorts along with a lot of myth and allegory. But I can't prove that anymore than someone can prove it is written by god, ya know? Thing is I'm not one of those anti christians, anti bible 'your all crazy' sort. I like to discuss and try to understand why people believe what they do. I don't believe any such thing about any comet, but I appreciate the information that Elenin was a comet. I keep seeing the word Elenin, but wasn't quite sure what it was and have not had much time or interest to look it up.

I respect that this is your belief, but being that this wasn't posted in a religious forum (least I don't think it was) I felt the need to say that a lot of people require proof to believe the things you post. Instead of one of those posts that expect everyone to believe what you believe because the bible says xxx or whatever it may be, ya know? Besides that, I'm busy on Oct 17th.. no time to catch a comet and I don't really like the koolaid.

And with that, I'm off to bed! It is almost 2am here in Colorado and I have to get up in 6 hours.

You are paying too much attention to the word abomination and or its meaning...

it is the second word is the one you actually need to be paying attention to...

DESOLATION >>> grief... sadness... loneliness... devastation... and finally ruin.

These are the results of the ongoing effort of those who seek to destroy what was once known as the FAMILY...

And when these ties are severed such as Separation, Divorce, and anything else that can ruin a family, then it is painstakingly obvious what this abomination is...

It is the literal separation of us from יהוה And what better metaphorical and physical representation of this abomination of when a husband and wife and children together as one family are separated and broken apart...

This meaning of the saying abomination that causes desolation that I am referencing to, although mentioned in a "religious" book, I am in no way shape or form giving any weight to the religiosity of the subject any thought or concern... This is purely and quite simply an explanation of the meaning behind the saying and why they wrote it in the book...

Sadly this will continue, till there is no more meaning of what a family is and or should be, and that this "abomination," will undoubtedly cause desolation to us all one day when the family unit and togetherness is destroyed by this evil.. (spiritually speaking or not there is such a thing as right or wrong according to both our primal and rational being)...

The Fifth Book of Moses, Called
Deuteronomy
32

6 They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods,

with abominations provoked they him to anger.
17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God;

to gods whom they knew not,
to new gods that came newly up,
whom your fathers feared not.

"The abomination of desolation"...................

Still trying to figure that one out......

reply to post by NightGypsy


I can show you it happens on Passover, but at a later time.