Jewish Soldiers say "Hello" to a Palestinian child on his way to school

reply to post by deesul69


What would you do if some group of people decided it was OK to push you off your land? Fight Back? What if that tribe of people had the backing of one of the wealthiest countries in the world and said country supplied said tribe with all of the modern weapons available. How would you feel about it? What do you fight back with? Sticks, rocks, bottles?? Against rockets, guns, grenades.. This is such a f@@cked up situation and the United States makes it all possible thanks to their billions of dollars and generous weapons contributions. The time has come that we stop letting our tax dollars be used for this bullshut, the Israelis are terrorists, we support them, end of story. They/we are no better than Hamas or any other Muslim terror organization, what makes it worse is that we claim to be the "GOOD GUY"? What a crock of sh@t.

reply to post by discharged77


Tell us all again how the Americans obtained Texas, Arizona, New Mexico etc again?

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by discharged77

 

Tell us all again how the Americans obtained Texas, Arizona, New Mexico etc again?

The USA won those lands by war fair and square.
Israel was created by land stolen with the Balfour declaration in which balfour made a deal with the banker Rothschild. Thats right Israel is a banking operation.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


In 1948 when 6 Arab nations rose and declared war upon Israel, she fought for her life too...and won!

The suituation between Israel and the Arabs is not the same how you obtained Texas, New Mexico, Arizona etc....and don't we know it!

reply to post by discharged77


You may want to learn a bit about history before you go spouting off gibberish.

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

www.science.co.il...

Read up, you might learn something. The palestinians are the agressors here. The Jews haven't knocked down the temple mount like they should and rebuild Solomon's temple. They have respect, unlike the animals they have to deal with. It was their land to begin with, and have taken it back legally. Read farther back than the last 60 years.

Oh, yeah and you're probably going to get that post removed by the mods for trying to get around the profanity filters. I learned that lesson the hard way.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by discharged77

 

Tell us all again how the Americans obtained Texas, Arizona, New Mexico etc again?

The USA obtained it by armed conflict, but what does that have to do with this topic? But unlike Israel the USA didn't use the bible to back them up for doing it.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by solid007

 

How can you be a faithful Jew and not a zionist when it says right in the belief the land is theirs?

If I'm not mistaken, the Jewish view is that they will be reunited in the Holy Land AFTER the advent of their Messiah. Since the Jewish Messiah has not yet appeared (according to their religion...), it is blasphemous to attempt to set up the state in the Holy Land.

A number of ultraconservative and deeply faithful Jews have made this argument.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

In 1948 when 6 Arab nations rose and declared war upon Israel, she fought for her life too...and won!

The suituation between Israel and the Arabs is not the same how you obtained Texas, New Mexico, Arizona etc....and don't we know it!

They fought against Israel BECAUSE of the underhanded theft by the Balfour declaration. If you are not clear on the time line here:

1-israel land stolen with balfour declaration
2-nations attack israel in retaliation for stolen land

the USA analogy

1-USA fought Mexico and won land. Fair and square.

See there is a difference.

reply to post by deesul69

Read up, you might learn something. The palestinians are the agressors here.

Actually there is evidence that shows Israel is the aggressor


(Source: bens post)

As you can clearly see the ones who are being aggressive are the Israelis.

Case closed.

Originally posted by deesul69
reply to post by discharged77

 

You may want to learn a bit about history before you go spouting off gibberish.

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

www.science.co.il...

Read up, you might learn something. The palestinians are the agressors here. The Jews haven't knocked down the temple mount like they should and rebuild Solomon's temple. They have respect, unlike the animals they have to deal with. It was their land to begin with, and have taken it back legally.

You are an idiot, I bet you are one of those born again Christians that kiss Zionist ass? The best part about it is your using a Wikipedia page to back yourself up..LOL.. Just goes to show you have no idea WTF you are talking about, do you? I know more about this subject then you will ever know, I promise you that.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Israel did'nt systematically slaughter hundreds of thousands of Palestinains like you did of Mexicans and Native Americans. I know your history well......so well in fact that the Americans has more blood on their hands a million fold than the Israelis by a longgggggggggggggggggg shot!

reply to post by Partygirl


But where is that backed up in the Torah? As it would remain evident that the Jews were indeed a nation, although under Roman rule. This belief seems strange as it would conflict with the state of the Jewish people in the times of their last biblical prophets. IE, they had a nation. In addition to this, it's stated quite clearly that the land is, in the end, theirs. And that the glory of God will go beyond the borders of Israel, at long last. These things indicate that God's nation would indeed be in existence when the messiah returned. The messiah in the times of Christ was sought not to liberate Israel, but to restore Israel. The belief you speak of may have been created after Rome annihilation Israel. However, Israel, to my knowledge, and I'm not claiming to be an expert, had not legitimate prophets in those days. That's partially Christian's fault because they more or less were causing a big problem politically with Rome. In any case, the point is this. That belief which you are talking about seems to be something to have been created in contrast to what the old testament actually says. But I'm willing to retract that if shown otherwise in scripture because I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on that.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

Israel did'nt systematically slaughter hundreds of thousands of Palestinains like you did of Mexicans and Native Americans. I know your history well......so well in fact that the Americans has more blood on their hands a million fold than the Israelis by a longgggggggggggggggggg shot!

So the argument is "You killed somebody once so it's OK for me to beat somebody sensless"? Classy,

Also, How come it there is always so much attention to the evil Americans killing the peaceful indians, and so little to the Spanish/Protugese conquest of Latin America, which was if anything far more brutal and heavy-handed?

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Question is, why does it matter? Sorry to say this but in war, there is only one solution. The absolute extermination of the enemy in its entirety. The amount of war that happened against Israel before that not only was basically constructed by the European powers for their own gains, but absolutely by their plans. And personally, not honestly giving a damn about the region, if you're going to go to war, just kill them all. That's genocide. I know it is. But war is genocide. If they won't live in peace then either leave, absorb them as one state, or exterminate them.

reply to post by Partygirl


Because everything is America and Israel's fault. Obviously.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


You're only looking at the last 60 years as well. Do you have any maps before 1946?

reply to post by Partygirl


There you go......

makes the Israelis look like angels compared to the Americans and the Spanish

Originally posted by deesul69
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

You're only looking at the last 60 years as well. Do you have any maps before 1946?

This whole conflict started in 1940's with the creation of Israel and thus that is relevant. Other people posted maps in the thread earlier if you need to see them.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Partygirl

 

Because everything is America and Israel's fault. Obviously.

Not everything just MOST things.
History can show you that.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


But the same people who created Israel also created Palestine and all those states. A proper look at the history reveals that there simply is no right side.

Once you eliminate the need to differentiate between good and bad, you only need to look at what the world would be like after one side is exterminated. Simple fact is, Israel's side offers a better life.