Case Dismissed Against Woman Arrested While Videotaping Police

reply to post by Manhater


we actually own our own property here, she was in her rights and she should get a fine for what? not letting the cop just order her around on her own property whilst not doing a thing but watching the watchers?

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Oh my, I am even more shocked. And I ain't even going to attempt to read your zillion word post. You have become a bit obsessive with all this you know. Take a look at all your posts. Wake up. I am out of here.

This is sad as even though this is a win for the woman (Good) there will be no consequences for the police that arrested her or the police that ticketed everyone after. Sure the court will through out some ol' stupid charge but most "government investigations" are just to appease the public while covering up against being sued. Part of that is never admitting the cops were at fault. Sad but true

For you police apologists:

NY cop admits framing people on drug charges and teaching younger cops to do the same

Did he make this all up?

A cop wouldn't lie, would he?

Originally posted by butcherguy
For you police apologists:

NY cop admits framing people on drug charges and teaching younger cops to do the same

Did he make this all up?

A cop wouldn't lie, would he?

Wow alert the presses. Since a cop did this, that must mean all cops do it.

Originally posted by elouina
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

Oh my, I am even more shocked. And I ain't even going to attempt to read your zillion word post. You have become a bit obsessive with all this you know. Take a look at all your posts. Wake up. I am out of here.

Sorry, didnt mean to drag the topic over your head. Not obsessive in the least bit. All I am doing is providing information that you guys chose to ignore. I have pointed out numerous times that the issue you guys have with these types of situations is a lack of knowledge of how the law works. I cant say that enough times.

Evidence of that are you and other peoples responses. At no poiint has anyone provided any information that counters what I am saying. Instead you guys just snipe and obfuscate. You want to blame the cop so bad, that nothing else is relevant.

That point of view by you guys is as bad as what you accuse the cop of doing. God forbid people learn something. While this is a conspiracy based website, not all forums are conspiracy driven. The level of paranoia I see from people is not rooted in mistrust of the Police. I think the mistrust comes from not understanding how the police do their job, how the laws work and how your civil rights work , and nothing more.

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by butcherguy
For you police apologists:

NY cop admits framing people on drug charges and teaching younger cops to do the same

Did he make this all up?

A cop wouldn't lie, would he?

Wow alert the presses. Since a cop did this, that must mean all cops do it.

Interesting take...from a cop.

I must say, judging by the ones that I know and have known, it is possible that they all do it.

ETA: I thought maybe you would come up with a reason for doing it. You know, like he was scared or something.

reply to post by Xcathdra

I think the mistrust comes from not understanding

Maybe it comes from hearing wolves constantly trying to pawn themselves off as sheep.

That might breed mistrust.

Whopee!

The recording device makes freedom prevail in the face of the Police State.

A massive settlement is in order, as her good name and honor have been besmiched by this smart-assed cop on a national forum.

Bottom line is always carry a small video/audio device with you to turn on whenever in the presence of cops. You too could "hit the jackpot"!!!

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Originally posted by romanmel
Whopee!

The recording device makes freedom prevail in the face of the Police State.

A massive settlement is in order, as her good name and honor have been besmiched by this smart-assed cop on a national forum.

Bottom line is always carry a small video/audio device with you to turn on whenever in the presence of cops. You too could "hit the jackpot"!!!

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That, or get your butt beat, the device taken away and smashed!

That's another way that our friendly protectors handle things that they don't agree with.

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True, unfortunately.

Best to AVOID the situation and never play with pigglets.

reply to post by WhiteDevil013

Vengeance is a dish best served cold, is it not?

Originally posted by Vitchilo
This happened in New York state right?

In Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland it's illegal to film cops because they say it's wiretapping or some BS like that.

If that happened in any of those three states, the woman would have lost... and hopefully would have brought it up to the Supreme Court and won...

Although I agree with most of your posts, you would be wrong again. It IS NOT illegal to film police, it would be illegal or unlaweful to taunt them or to distract them in any way while making an arrest. Obstruction of justice or interfering with the duties of an officer are the "statutes" that govern this type of activity, BUT.....it must be proven that the individual had the intent or malice to commit such and act. It must be proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the intent was to interfere or to hassle the officer and possibly endanger him/her in the process of duty. This is where people INCLUDING COPS get it wrong. An "policy enforcement officer" should be trained and NOT distracted by others who are nothing more than innocent by standers.

The problem with this country is that there are no longer "police academies" to properly train officers in the Constitutional Duty and there are merely "fly-by-night" technical colleges that now "train" policy enforcement officers. THAT is the sad part.

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by elouina
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Oh my, I am even more shocked. And I ain't even going to attempt to read your zillion word post. You have become a bit obsessive with all this you know. Take a look at all your posts. Wake up. I am out of here.

Sorry, didnt mean to drag the topic over your head. Not obsessive in the least bit. All I am doing is providing information that you guys chose to ignore. I have pointed out numerous times that the issue you guys have with these types of situations is a lack of knowledge of how the law works. I cant say that enough times.

Evidence of that are you and other peoples responses. At no poiint has anyone provided any information that counters what I am saying. Instead you guys just snipe and obfuscate. You want to blame the cop so bad, that nothing else is relevant.

That point of view by you guys is as bad as what you accuse the cop of doing. God forbid people learn something. While this is a conspiracy based website, not all forums are conspiracy driven. The level of paranoia I see from people is not rooted in mistrust of the Police. I think the mistrust comes from not understanding how the police do their job, how the laws work and how your civil rights work , and nothing more.

edit on 28-6-2011 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)

No, Xcathdra, you are missing their point. They get your point perfectly. I don't think your lengthy post was over his head. He obviously gets it.

It seems that you have a very large blind spot that makes it impossible to for you to comprehend what others are saying.

They're simply saying it like it is. You're so obsessed with protecting the cop from blame and accountability for his own bad behavior that "nothing else is relevant" in your eyes. Ms. Good did nothing that could be construed as obstructing him - - - unless recording his activities on video from a safe distance is within the definition of obstructing.

It's obvious that he's a petty bully who became a cop and now believes that the public must obey his every command regardless of how inappropriate and pointless the command may be. I wouldn't be surprised if it was revealed that he is a prime mover in the parking ticket debacle. He certainly displays that mentality. He should be demoted to the job of office file clerk.

Removed double post.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
Since your post in this thread runs contrary to your post in the other thread, does that mean I can call you out like you attempted to do with me?

Are you refering to this POST ?
If so(I`ve posted a few over there), its not so much calling you out rather than how empty your apology is.I was not aware that you had said that you would apologize if it was found that you were wrong early on in the original thread.

I saw you only apologize on page 44 and your next post was back to attacking people in your original stance,which was/is seriously lacking in integrity imo.

Please, explain why you think im wrong.

If you dont think what the officer did is wrong throughout all of this and its outcome,it means that you would have done the exact same thing and you will do in the future even after appologizing.I`m therfore unqualified to help you with your problem.

My problem with all of this is that if I were American and had to jump through hoops with "yes sir no sir three bags full sir" mentality in showing fake respect to LEO`s just so they wouldn`t get upset and book me on trumped up charges or bashed etc that you can see on so many Youtube vids, I would feel oppressed by Gov LEO`s as well,so I stand with them.

In Australia (I`m over the hill in age) I`ve only had one encounter with a bad officer ( I didn`t even get booked for going 10km`s over the speed limit yet put our lives at risk) and have friends who are police officers.

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SUCH a case of danged if you do, danged if you dont. Had things gone awry with the traffic stop, thats video evidence. And the police would LOVE her for it!! Who knows, maybe focusing on the camera let the situation between the officer and the occupant to difuse? I totally agree and believe in citizen journalism!!!! Its pretty much the realist news out there by far!!! Havent watched the video yet but i read the article. Nice find!!!!

Originally posted by butcherguy
Interesting take...from a cop.

I must say, judging by the ones that I know and have known, it is possible that they all do it.

ETA: I thought maybe you would come up with a reason for doing it. You know, like he was scared or something.

edit on 28-6-2011 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)

Why would I need to come up with a reason.. All I need to do is go back in the forums and find any police related thread. From that point I can just browse through all the idiotic comments people make when sereotyping the police and pick one of those.

I mean why actually provide you with a reliable answer when you are unable to that yourself?

Exactly what did you do growing uop that caused you to have contact with law enforcement all the time? You apparently have issues with authority figures.. Someone tell you no and you could not handle that or what?

Originally posted by butcherguy
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I think the mistrust comes from not understanding

Maybe it comes from hearing wolves constantly trying to pawn themselves off as sheep.

That might breed mistrust.

Or it might have to do with the level of ignorance people show when it comes to how their own government operates, their apathy and laziness to actually participate in the process, the many ewxcuses as to why the system hates them, the extreme paranoia to anything they dont understand, coupled once again wtih laziness by refusing to actually learn how it works.

When peope are as paranoid as some of the people in these threads, who are so friggin lazy that im amazed they dont have ventilators breathing for them, who absolutely refuse to do any research, they are the ones who breed mistrust.

I ahve taken the time to counter the BS people spout in these forums, while at the very same time they ignore it and offer their opinions as law.

As I stated before, your paranoia and mistrust stems directly from a lack of knoweldge on how the government works and how the laws work, let alone your civil rights.

Originally posted by Vitchilo
This happened in New York state right?

In Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland it's illegal to film cops because they say it's wiretapping or some BS like that.

If that happened in any of those three states, the woman would have lost... and hopefully would have brought it up to the Supreme Court and won...

Illinois is the last state to maintain their stance on the wiretapping law. The other states you mention have all had their laws refined through case law decisions.