New drug from South America causes amnesia

Wasn't sure where to put this. Feel free to move it.

Good bet that certain alphabet agencies have known about this stuff for years. If not, they have probably produced something similar synthetically anyway. Either way though, the cat is out of the bag now and it is a near certainty that this stuff will make it's way to the States where it will be used by the criminal underworld as well as certain government agencies. I wonder too if this drug would be effective as an enhanced interrogation tool. If so, then heck, might wind up being administered to you at your nearest friendly TSA checkpoint. Have a nice flight.

LINK

Seems like pretty scary stuff. I wonder if this is being used recreationally at all. Or for that mater, what the laws here in the States are on the substance.

Yikes, scary stuff. I can't imagine some one taking this willingly, but then again, their are people who willingly take Meth, so go figure.


This actually reminds me of roofies ( The date rape drug)....

I can see people using it for that purpose, sadly......

Again, very scary.

MIB type styff
and
certainly cover your butt type stuff


you the witness?
jab
I was never here
jab
yes dear, I am eliott spitzer...
jab
good job 007
jab
Har! now lower the treasure chest down into the hole maties
jab

super amnesia drug you say ?


whats snopes say



www.snopes.com...

I couldnt read the link ..letters were blurred .however if you take 20 Xanax followed by whiskey it has the same effect.,Just another substance to be abused..by the druggies IMHO..however use by three letter agencys could be used to good effect .thats whats truely scary Killers with no memory of their deeds !! Perhaps agents could take this if caught . Memory wipe..cant tell what you dont remember..just guessing though as i had lots of trouble reading most of it..I just dont remember who I am ..HAHAHA
Its odd that Ican clearly read the opening and the closeing paragraphs as soon as i scroll the print goes fuzzy..but I was finaly able to read it..looks like its being used to do bad things robbery rape ect. In the three letter agencys hands.still bad / drugs are bad dont use drugs ..ummK ..Mr.Mackey South Park

Originally posted by seedofchucky
super amnesia drug you say ?


whats snopes say



www.snopes.com...

They don't say it's false at all. They say that the idea you will get snookered by a laced business card soaked in the stuff is false. The substance is very real .

Here a list from the DEA website of Scheduled drugs so unless i missed it i don't believe they know about it yet .


DEA Drug Scheduling

We have that in Canada too (The active ingredient), naturally growing. And yes, kids and governments have tested it for years. This isn't new news at all.

Scopolamine, also known as levo-duboisine, and hyoscine, is a tropane alkaloid drug with muscarinic antagonist effects. It is among the secondary metabolites of plants from Solanaceae (nightshade) family of plants, such as henbane, jimson weed and Angel's Trumpets (Datura resp. Brugmansia spec.), and corkwood (Duboisia species [2]).

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Canada's comes from the Nightshade. Most likely America has it as well.

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
I can't imagine some one taking this willingly

Why not? Carry out an assassination or murder or other high-profile crime, take the drug, and now you can't be questioned or given a polygraph... Because you won't remember doing it!

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They know about it:

Henderson TJ, Cullinan DB, Lawrence RJ, Oyler JM. Positive identification of the principal component of a white powder as scopolamine by quantitative one-dimensional and two-dimensional NMR techniques. Journal of Forensic Sciences 2008;53(1):151-161. [Editor’s Notes: Presents the in-depth characterization of scopolamine via a wide variety of NMR techniques, including 14N-NMR. Tandem mass spectra (collision induced dissociation) results are also presented. Contact: U.S. Army Edgewood Chemical Biological Center, MD 21010.]

DEA

Some more history shall we:

Potions from plants, now known to contain scopolamine, were used in antiquity and the middle ages. However, wide-spread application of drugs for induction of insensibility to pain did not occur, probably because of side-effects and unpredictable dose-effect relationships.

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1890 - Scopolamine has been known for about years and was first extracted and isolated by Schmidt from the Scapolia Japonica in 1890.

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Scopolamine was used from the 1940s to the 1960s to put mothers in labor into a kind of "twilight sleep" that did not stop pain, but merely eliminated the memory of pain by attacking the brain functions responsible for self-awareness and self-control. It was also one of the active ingredients in Asthmador, an over-the-counter smoking preparation marketed in the 1950s and '60s claiming to combat asthma and bronchitis. In November 1990 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration forced several hundred ingredients allegedly not known to be effective off the market including scopolamine.

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There's nothing new about scopolamine, it's been around since the 50s at least. Sensationalism at it's best.

reply to post by CobraCommander


Pretty sure State Department knows about it.

Use of disabling drugs: The Embassy continues to receive reports of criminals in Colombia using disabling drugs to temporarily incapacitate tourists and others. At bars, restaurants, and other public areas, perpetrators may offer tainted drinks, cigarettes, or gum. Typically, victims become disoriented or unconscious, and are thus vulnerable to robbery, sexual assault, and other crimes. Avoid leaving food or drinks unattended at a bar or restaurant, and be suspicious if a stranger offers you something to eat or drink.

travel.state.gov...

Thanks for the warning.

Originally posted by shortyboy
Here a list from the DEA website of Scheduled drugs so unless i missed it i don't believe they know about it yet .


DEA Drug Scheduling

I didn't see salvia on there either.

Originally posted by adeclerk
reply to post by CobraCommander

 

There's nothing new about scopolamine, it's been around since the 50s at least. Sensationalism at it's best.

Its also known as "burundanga" and "CIA drug".. old schoolers might call it "Spanish fly".

A favorite of date rapists, kidnappers and pondscum govt alphabet agencies

reply to post by GovtFlu


Spanish fly?? en.wikipedia.org...

First isolated in 1810?? doesn't seem very new.....???

Scopolamine, OTOH, is positively a newcomer, having only been isolated in the 1880's - en.wikipedia.org...



Not sure what any of it has to do with geo-engineering or chemtrails tho??

I've got plants in my back yard riddled with scopolomine. This is not anything new?

The plant might be, but any decent witch's garden will have plants with high levels of scopolomine.

The fact that it causes amnesia is not a new fact. It was given to women in labor years ago - labor still hurt like crap but you didn't remember it later. It's been used in surgical anesthesia for a long time in various ways.

www.missouriplants.com... blooming left and right currently. Datura Stromonium, aka Jimson weed.

Don't kill yourself with it.

I could see this drug helping people with post-traumatic stress disorder or other psychiatric issues induced by trauma.

i have heard of this drug and something else like it but i cant remember what it was called. its just like rohipnol or however u spell it but the drug makes you forget everything while still seems like you are awake. ive heard of people getten raped and video taped with this drug and they still look like there councious and alert when there realy not. wish i could remember a source for this but scary stuff never the less.

unless this is the drug being discussed

Originally posted by CobraCommander
I didn't see salvia on there either.

Salvia is controlled on the state level, not the federal.