WWIII in Libya AND Syria in Days? Report.

As soon as they killed Osama I smelled a rat. In my opinion, they knew where he was and could have "offed" him anytime they liked. Problem was, once Osama was gone people would call for troops to leave Afghanistan - so Osama wasn't going to die until they wanted to move the troops anyway. So why would they need to move 20,000 troops? My initial thought was Libya, but now we can add the Turkey/Syria border to the list I guess.

They're not actually pulling all the troops from Afghanistan - they'll be leaving some there for sure.

Originally posted by Curio


They're not actually pulling all the troops from Afghanistan - they'll be leaving some there for sure.

They're just reducing the number to what they were before they escalated the war. So the number of troops will be at the same levels as 90% of the time we've been in Afghanistan. We have Afghanistan in a vice grip and won't be letting go.
Wanna know what countries still aren't in our vice grip yet? Libya, Syria, Iran, North Korea, and a few others...
You get the picture. You know what's coming next. One last swift grab of power.

Originally posted by Ghost375
Wanna know what countries still aren't in our vice grip yet? Libya, Syria, Iran, North Korea, and a few others...
You get the picture. You know what's coming next. One last swift grab of power.

Unfortunately, all of the countries which you just mentioned have gov'ts which are QUITE in cahoots with the world crime network........even more so than our own for most of them[Lybia may be the only exception, though. MAYBE.].........Iran, Syria, and NK in particular.

I still think the begining of WWIII, will not be recorded by the media, or played out like some desert storm err or the last few so called conventional wars we have had. With all due respect to our troops the past two decades have in no sense or fashion presented a true grit in your face conventional war. Also this Libya, thing is a political stunt, for whatever gain.

WWIII, will happen I suppose and when it does, most people will have no idea how it happened.


Its going to be nuclear, it is the only thing left logical..



I do enjoy the imagination, on this recycled renamed DOOM thread thou..

Originally posted by AverageJoe1

Originally posted by Ghost375
Wanna know what countries still aren't in our vice grip yet? Libya, Syria, Iran, North Korea, and a few others...
You get the picture. You know what's coming next. One last swift grab of power.

Unfortunately, all of the countries which you just mentioned have gov'ts which are QUITE in cahoots with the world crime network........even more so than our own for most of them[Lybia may be the only exception, though. MAYBE.].........Iran, Syria, and NK in particular.

The "world crime network"? lol I like that phrase. Not quite sure what you mean by it, but I like your use of it nonetheless.
If you mean the worldwide arms smuggling trade, well the U.S. is in charge of that operation.
If you mean the worldwide drug trade, well the U.S. is in charge of that operation as well.
If you mean "counterfeit" goods and the black market, well good for them. The US/Euro Empire is based predominantly on worldwide economic control. I don't like my economy to be in the hands of a single group of dictators.
If you're just trying to say that they are evil, well I doubt they are any more evil than our leaders and us. All humans have evil in them. The U.S. has done tons of evil deeds, that I won't bother listing here. But they are way worse than stoning a lady based on a thousand year old tradition. Some are heinously sick.

Peace, Love, and Understanding is the way.

reply to post by Vitchilo


if iran is dumb enough to bomb turkey there signing there own death warrent.the turks dont like being pushed around by any one and i dont think the turikish people would be as anti war as americans would(them not being in 5 wars is it now? ive lost count) let alone turkey is in nato.... if iran bombs turkey the isralies are gonna start to laugh and dance in the streets and start preparing to take out the countrys they want to with iran distracted and it being either a nato or internal me issue irans options would be limited. hell if irans fighting some one else look for that being the time the idf will strike there nuke plant least thats my opinion any ways

Originally posted by KilrathiLG
reply to post by Vitchilo

 

if iran is dumb enough to bomb turkey there signing there own death warrent.the turks dont like being pushed around by any one and i dont think the turikish people would be as anti war as americans would(them not being in 5 wars is it now? ive lost count) let alone turkey is in nato.... if iran bombs turkey the isralies are gonna start to laugh and dance in the streets and start preparing to take out the countrys they want to with iran distracted and it being either a nato or internal me issue irans options would be limited. hell if irans fighting some one else look for that being the time the idf will strike there nuke plant least thats my opinion any ways

I can eventually see a scenario where somebody could eventually use a few tactical nuclear weapons here and there in the Mideast; but frankly, most of the top military brass in India, the E.U., Russia, the U.S., and perhaps even China know that it would be foolish to try to get fully involved and blow each other's cities up for no good reason. Rogue military personnel who would try to act on their own would be a significant problem, however.

reply to post by KilrathiLG

if iran is dumb enough to bomb turkey there signing there own death warrent.the turks dont like being pushed around by any one and i dont think the turikish people would be as anti war as americans would(them not being in 5 wars is it now? ive lost count) let alone turkey is in nato.... if iran bombs turkey the isralies are gonna start to laugh and dance in the streets and start preparing to take out the countrys they want to with iran distracted and it being either a nato or internal me issue irans options would be limited. hell if irans fighting some one else look for that being the time the idf will strike there nuke plant least thats my opinion any ways

If Iran bombs anyone, it will be Israel, as part of a coordinated, orchestrated attack along with Syria and Lebanon. They have an agreement between themselves. They also have enough missiles between them to destroy the entire infrastructure/defense and economic capabilities of Israel as a country. It may well come close to that, bit Ibelieve Israel will rise out of the ashes. I also believe Damascus will be nuked to oblivion, and quite probably Tehran too. Where it goes from there is anyones guess....UN ceasefire?

Originally posted by Imhotepsol
reply to post by Vitchilo

 

They've already assigned the army base in Izmir for use during the assault. My dad emailed me about it this morning letting me know it's not to far from where he lives.

Just so you know, that is about as far as you can get from Syria in Turkey.

Now if they want to take in foreign forces that would be a place to take them in but not to attack from.

Originally posted by Lucius Driftwood
reply to post by KilrathiLG

 

if iran is dumb enough to bomb turkey there signing there own death warrent.the turks dont like being pushed around by any one and i dont think the turikish people would be as anti war as americans would(them not being in 5 wars is it now? ive lost count) let alone turkey is in nato.... if iran bombs turkey the isralies are gonna start to laugh and dance in the streets and start preparing to take out the countrys they want to with iran distracted and it being either a nato or internal me issue irans options would be limited. hell if irans fighting some one else look for that being the time the idf will strike there nuke plant least thats my opinion any ways

If Iran bombs anyone, it will be Israel, as part of a coordinated, orchestrated attack along with Syria and Lebanon. They have an agreement between themselves. They also have enough missiles between them to destroy the entire infrastructure/defense and economic capabilities of Israel as a country. It may well come close to that, bit Ibelieve Israel will rise out of the ashes. I also believe Damascus will be nuked to oblivion, and quite probably Tehran too. Where it goes from there is anyones guess....UN ceasefire?

Well, if absolute worst does come to absolute worst, I am hoping I can move to a safe location well before the bombs do start falling......preferably at least a day or two.

reply to post by RoguePhilosopher


so you are saying that china and russia are okay with america owning all the oil reserves in the middle east? i dont believe that one bit.

i would just like to ask someone. does china and russia being involved have to mean they have their troops there? couldnt it also just mean they are supplying arms, tanks, missiles, etc... wouldnt this give the ME countries a better fighting chance to stand up to the big dogs? It would help their economy, keep their allies somewhat happy and help keep their biggest competitor tied down in a money pit war and weaken them even further?


i just wanna ad. i keep reading on here about how the leaders are responsible and would never risk a nuclear war. REALLY! some of you really believe that the leaders care or give a donkeys hat. that is some really funny stuff. the only thing they care about is their power and polls. if the polls or corporations say nuke, they will nuke without a second thought. since when did everyone start thinking psychopaths care?

reply to post by Sky watcher


I know I'm half Turkish. The base in Izmir is being used for equipment and troops before they move on into Syria. It makes sense they'd keep their main command and equipment reserves in a base that's probably not going to be too affected by the incursion. Still tho scary times.

reply to post by AverageJoe1


eh i dont think it will go nuclear at least not icbm levels MAYBE some tactical nukes but hopefully not i was just trying to say more along the lines of if turkey attacks iran its the perfect distraction for the idf to take out bushiere(sp) nuke plant and as for syria and Lebanon attacking how is Syria gonna do that if turkey is attacking them?pretty weird way of responding to another country declaring war one u just attack a random neighbor? and if egypt syria lebbenon and what ever countries(Saudis sent money) that tried to kill the jews off in the 6 days war couldnt do it what makes you think syria and Lebanon can do it alone especaly if one of them is allready under attack from nato?i personaly consider the turks the big dogs in the ME and i may be missinformed but as a student of history i wouldnt want to get the turks back into ottoman mode again or look at them as weak and soft because they have been outa world events for a while

reply to post by AverageJoe1


No there's not. Remember it's an Islamic country so they have their customs the same as we did a few hundred years ago. It's not our place to tell people where in their development they should be, it's for people, who've grown under the regimes there to change them the very same way we did during the period of revolution in Europe / America. Thats the only way you'll be able to create a lasting democracy, not by force but by natural evolution. We evolved democracy back in Greece but still we have fascism rising its head, particularly in modern day America.

At least in Syria there's no women being stoned in the street, they can get a divorce, work and anything else we do over here. Of course there are stupid ignorant people who want women covered from head to toe but then again there's idiot christians who want to meddle in issues like abortion and other life choices they really have no right wading in on.

Its more a case of slow and progressive social advancement from where they are now to a future point. We can't turn around and say that it's anything else. We don't live in those societies, we don't live in those lands and we have very little to do with those people. Whats so hard about leaving them alone to advance at their own rate? Why can't we be benign and support them instead of ruining their countries and infrastructures?

The biggest problem we have is the arrogance of the western mind set thinking that because we have over come some trials that it gives us the right to alter the course of history for others. That's grade A bull.

reply to post by letscit


mabey there just happy letting us do all the battles but we got some secret deal to split up the regions resources amongst our selves think about it if russia china and the united states were all on the same page with something who could stop that alliance the tech of usa and our allies the manpower and industrial capacity of china and the vast resources and strong and feared reputation of russian occupations were all combined into one force.....

reply to post by letscit


that i think is a far more likely to happen then boots on the ground the russians and chinese could just do what they did in vietnam sell there weapons and what not and mabey even some pilots to fight ours like they did in korea but boots on the ground...why would they risk there people in a conflict when they can sell weapons and make money hand over fist charging high prices for arms and worst case there ally looses and then owes them a crap load of money while at the same time we get to get the rebuilding contracts war is economicly good for us russia and china regardless of who is fighting we make money our "enemys" make money so either way its a win situation even if we eventualy loose the war we have still made some people very very rich only real loosers of war are the civilans and innocents killed by those whos claim to winning is who has made the most money killing other people

I beleive it may seem like the SCO is against this potential upcoming large scale Mid-East war but that is just an act that they must stick to the script with to keep the civilians within theor countries somewhat quiet.

Don't think for a second that this upcoming war hasn't been planned for in each and every respect, and im not just talking about the military operations in the mideast.

China and Russia aswell as India to an extent have a high chance of likely hood of being bought out and concensions being made that benefit them if they turn a blind eye and dont get involved in the upcoming conflict.

For example.....

US allows China to take back Taiwan without any inteference on its part, heck, they may have even sacrificed the Phillipines and Japan aswell who knows......the greater goal of controlling the mideast resources is the highest priority.

India would be allowed to take back Pakistan under its wing completely without the fear of China getting involved.

Russia would be able to take back some of the smaller Central Asian States like Georgia and the like.

Not saying this is exactly how it plays out but Im sure some beneficial concessions have been made for the greater cause of Global Resource Control.

The other "somewhat controversial idea" I have is for people to not be surprised if the USA double plays Israel......

It's just a theory but TPTB could have said to Syria/Lebanon/Iran we are going to start conflict in your region and make Israel think they have the chance to attack you all when really we will allow you to launch a first strike instead. Or something along those lines.

Getting rid of Israel in this whole mess and making the West seem innocent in it all will be a coup for USA/NATO and get the bogey of its back and the clutches of Israel of the USA's nuts once and for all.

Israel was created from memory to keep the Arabs in check. If TPTB beleive its usefulness has been used up then dont think for a moment that they wouldnt be willing to sacrifice Israel for complete unhindered control of the Entire MidEast without a rogue state to deal with.

I declare before all the World, I am totally and completely opposed to WWIII or any war. I will not participate in any way,shape or form. My prayers and thoughts are for Peace, love and the brotherhood of all men. Will we allow these few psychopaths to send our World into war? How long will we all submitt to a subserviant position before we realize that WE ARE MIGHTY! No! I am sovereign! No war!

Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
I beleive it may seem like the SCO is against this potential upcoming large scale Mid-East war but that is just an act that they must stick to the script with to keep the civilians within theor countries somewhat quiet.

Don't think for a second that this upcoming war hasn't been planned for in each and every respect, and im not just talking about the military operations in the mideast.

China and Russia aswell as India to an extent have a high chance of likely hood of being bought out and concensions being made that benefit them if they turn a blind eye and dont get involved in the upcoming conflict.

For example.....

US allows China to take back Taiwan without any inteference on its part, heck, they may have even sacrificed the Phillipines and Japan aswell who knows......the greater goal of controlling the mideast resources is the highest priority.

India would be allowed to take back Pakistan under its wing completely without the fear of China getting involved.

Russia would be able to take back some of the smaller Central Asian States like Georgia and the like.

Not saying this is exactly how it plays out but Im sure some beneficial concessions have been made for the greater cause of Global Resource Control.

The other "somewhat controversial idea" I have is for people to not be surprised if the USA double plays Israel......

It's just a theory but TPTB could have said to Syria/Lebanon/Iran we are going to start conflict in your region and make Israel think they have the chance to attack you all when really we will allow you to launch a first strike instead. Or something along those lines.

Getting rid of Israel in this whole mess and making the West seem innocent in it all will be a coup for USA/NATO and get the bogey of its back and the clutches of Israel of the USA's nuts once and for all.

Israel was created from memory to keep the Arabs in check. If TPTB beleive its usefulness has been used up then dont think for a moment that they wouldnt be willing to sacrifice Israel for complete unhindered control of the Entire MidEast without a rogue state to deal with.

That's an interesting scenario. The US 'Allowing' Nations to take back what they already consider theirs in the first place. I wonder just how much they would consider it as a concession (bribe) or if it would be considered the ultimate insult.

Then we have 4 majors on the Globe all looking at each other and waiting for someone to blink. No smaller countries to fight over...just big ones.

I don't like that scenario at all but definitely one to consider.