Why Don't You Vote For Obama in 2012?

Originally posted by seiva7
vote for Obama in 2012, good decision,

you're my man.

Out of all the top notch questions and comments in this thread, you choose to reply to one that panders to your "belief".

I'm calling political trolling on this.

P.S.
Ron Paul 2012. Beats the little pansy flip flopper Obama any day.

reply to post by seiva7


Nope, I'd have to say someone who sat in a black seperatist/ racist church as long as he did far eclipses the birthers. Then again, I know the MSM wants you to believe the opposite on both accounts.

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I was unaware that this could actually be a real question.

reply to post by Areveli

I can easily blame him for this... he built his CAMPAIGN around reformation... Change? Do you remeber this?

Signs of the recession starting showing up around ``1999``, it first hit in 2001, Bush signed a stimulus package that pumped a ton of money into the housing market creating the housing bubble, that bubble burst creating our current economic crisis. No one knew who Obama was in 1999, so I still don't see how you could blame him. Has he helped the economy at all? No not really, but he didn't start this mess.

There's a lot more that went into creating this mess, but I don't feel like typing it all out atm.

He scared the crap out of everyone with money and sent the economy nose diving. As for Keynesian Economics... I only agree with his CAUSES of Depressions and Recessions.

I don't agree with the Keynesians at all they always blame businesses and regular people that have done nothing wrong. The Govt created this entire mess. So they are 100% to blame.

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by michael1983l
Because i am not an american citizen.

That won't stop the progressives. C'mon over! Vote twice! THEY do!

It's funny how the pot calls the kettle black and the kettle calls the pot black, and neither notices they, too, are black.

Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
I will vote for him in 2012.

He's kinda our only hope.

Good luck with that.

It's these things like, how it's going to be Obama (lmao) vs Palin (lmfao) running for Presidency, that makes me glad I'm not an American citizen. It's a no-win situation.

Then again...we have the 'Coalition-Clowns ' (David "hug-a-hoody" Cameron, & Nick "The Pleb" Clegg) running our country over here in England, so...

But I guess if I had (gun to my head) to choose, then I guess Obama, since he seems(?) more intelligent at least......

I understand many are mad at Obama and for a good reason.

but the real question is: will another person be able to change anything in the USA?

some of you mention Ron Paul but it is clear he is far away from being a serious presidential candidate in 2012.

if not Obama, who is the alternative?

In 2007, the very large majority of Americans, including most Democrats, did not think of Obama as a "serious candidate". He was too black, too unknown, too young, too inexperienced, and had a foreign sounding name. Jon Edwards and Hillary Clinton were mainstream, well known, and it was obviously between those two. Things change, sometimes very quickly. Don't rule Ron Paul out. I will vote 3rd Party before I vote for Obama or a mainstream Republican candidate. It's not a wasted vote because there is no difference. A vote for 1 or the other IS a wasted vote, however. Or at least a vote for the status quo. My only concern should Paul win the nomination in a long shot is that he will be corrupted. In our system, you have to pay to play. The corporations, NGOs, Israel, defense establishment, corrupt government bureaucracy and elected officials, socially dependent Americans, globalist forces, the Federal Reserve and foreign/global central banks etc will not allow him to make his beliefs into official policy. He would likely die before that were allowed to happen. Unfortunately, I think we're too far gone. Mr. Obama has contributed to that tragic predicament.

Why I won't vote for Obama in 2012?

Because there is a better candidate out there, and his name is Ron Paul.

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so, you admit that even Ron Paul wouldn't be able to change a lot.

why don't support Obama then?

if nothing is going to change even if Ron Paul wins?

maybe the problem is not in the government, maybe the problem is in the people?

Originally posted by seiva7
haters tried to prove Obama wasn't born in the USA but their failed.

USA finished-off Osama while under Obama and that should be enough for the little guy to vote again.

for Obama.

How do we know USA got Osama, or do you have evidence the rest of us are not privy to? Perhaps we should simply take obama at his word, that's worked out real well for us in the past. Besides, even if they did get Osama the work is not over Justin Beiber is still at large.

"so, you admit that even Ron Paul wouldn't be able to change a lot.

why don't support Obama then?

if nothing is going to change even if Ron Paul wins?

maybe the problem is not in the government, maybe the problem is in the people?"

If Ron Paul were to make it in, he is the most likely person to stick to his guns. Unlike Obama, he has been consistent for over 20 years and has yet to bow to pressure.

The problem is not the people. It is the establishment forces which are currently epitomized by Mr. Obama. According to your argument, we might as well just override the Constitution completely and just give Bush a third term, which is effectively what Obama represents.
There was no "admitting" that Ron Paul wouldn't change anything. Simply stating that our system, controlled by established insiders, do everything they can to keep an actual "people's candidate" out. Mr. Obama represents the destruction of all things American and the shredding of the Constitution. Unless you're just a troll getting laughs out of riling folks up, I don't see a rason for your OP. I have yet to see any compelling reason to vote for a man who has only failed. Please elaborate, with specific reasons, why Obama is preferable to anyone else.

Here is why:

I live in Illinois. I am privy to the corruption that occurs in Illinois. Obama went through that corruption. Not as someone who merely sat by and ignored it at the state senate, but as someone who had serious connections with Tony Rezko (a guy who was at, and may still be at, the forefront of Illinois corruption). He has connections to Rod Blagojevich that I suspect went deeper than we are being told. The reason I think Fitzpatrick pulled the plug on the Blago investigation too early (which is leading to the problems with conviction) is because I think Obama was about to implicate himself in this whole mess, and he didn't want a part to be a part of that. I am still BAFFLED at how he won Illinois despite EVERYONE in Illinois knowing the political corruption that existed at that time, including Rezko giving Obama a house at hundreds of thousands of dollars under market value. I think his tenure as President has shown that he is part of the machine.

Well I will not vote for Obama because he is always on vacation. this reminds me of a Forrest Gump quote:

Mama, what's vacation mean? - Vacation? Where daddy went? Vacation's when you go somewhere... and you don't ever come back.

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they are trying to keep Ron Paul out of the race and they will be successful.

and here is why:

American people have been brainwashed and conditioned, they will fall for a grand propaganda promoting Obama-Romney.

Not enough of Americans will vote for Ron Paul and that is actually a proof that the problem is with the people.

Long live Obama.

p.s. I am just being real.

ummm is this a attempt at parody what Promises has he fullfilled. Obama is a dirt lier and thats it

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You have got to be kidding me....... How can you say the problem is not in the governemnt the problem is in the people.... I am sorry but thats a very silly statement the government namely the US Government is highly corrupt mafia.... You sadden me that you believe the problem lies in the people when the people get no choice anymore!

Originally posted by seiva7

I understand many are mad at Obama and for a good reason.

but the real question is: will another person be able to change anything in the USA?

some of you mention Ron Paul but it is clear he is far away from being a serious presidential candidate in 2012.

if not Obama, who is the alternative?

Obama can't get re- elected with a 9.2% unemployment rate.


Scenes like this are killing the USA.
Obama the socialist must go.
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The GOP is having a field day with the latest unemployment number.
It's over.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by seiva7

I understand many are mad at Obama and for a good reason.

but the real question is: will another person be able to change anything in the USA?

some of you mention Ron Paul but it is clear he is far away from being a serious presidential candidate in 2012.

if not Obama, who is the alternative?

Obama can't get re- elected with a 9.2% unemployment rate.


Scenes like this are killing the USA.
Obama the socialist must go.
------------
The GOP is having a field day with the latest unemployment number.
It's over.

this is not the first bad news for Obama,

but he is still here, isn't he?

get used to it, you will be having Obama for President.

Because he actually hasn't held true to his promises, at least to the extent he claimed; also, he has radical ideology that contrasts with what America is all about. Re-election would likely insure more unacceptable levels of debt.