Extreme Weather? Nothing to see here...move along...

Originally posted by SquirrelNutz
reply to post by SonoftheSun

 

With you, Brutha! - I started my own U.S. Specific thread a bit ago (added to it, just today). Here. S & F.

Will have a look at your thread when I get a chance and will get back to you.

Thank you for contributing !!

Originally posted by juleol
reply to post by SonoftheSun

 

The problem is that you are looking at a very short timespan and i think your source when it comes to tropical storms is wrong as well, since the sources i have seen showed a decline in the last decade.

Hello Juleo,

If you could find the link and the source that you mention, I would look at it very very seriously.

Thanks for contributing but I'd really like to see that link and source.

Originally posted by Trueman

Originally posted by SonoftheSun
reply to post by speculativeoptimist

 

...La nina esta bada...ok...I don't speak spanish. But it's bad and will be getting worse.

Let me help. " La Niňa es mala" (La Niňa is bad).

Thanks Trueman !!!

That brought a smile to my face !

Originally posted by liejunkie01
reply to post by Iwinder

 

After seeing SonoftheSun's evidence and other links provided here I think that the debate has gone from where is the proof to "What the hell is causing this?"

It is nice to see that it is business as usual here on ATS. There are explanations. Such as my post above. It is all of the blinded it must be one big conspiracy people such as yourself that wants to dismiss or completely ignore the facts and science to find the answers you all are looking for.

Yes there are many explanations ......thats the problem here I think, did you read my link up there about 9 posts or so ago?
I read your link and it was very interesting, but so is my link and so is 20 other explanations.......that is what worries me on one hand NASA says one thing on the other hand many scientists are saying a completely different thing.

When I read lots of scientific articles regarding the same phenomenon and they don't even come close to the same theory .......well then I
gather nobody knows what is the real cause of these mega disasters.

They are all telling the truth, or they are all lying save but one of them.

I am not ignoring any facts and science to find the answers I am looking for, that is the problem here all the science and the facts that go with the papers I have read all are in disagreement with each other.
Regards, Iwinder

edit on 25-6-2011 by Iwinder because: (no reason given)

It's called the end of the world; the Apocalypse; the Rapture; the Second Coming.. etc. There will be a physical pole shift caused by a massive CME on 12-21-12.

That is the sad truth.

reply to post by Iwinder


I understand where you are coming from and I think my post turned out to be a little hostile. I did not mean for it to be that way...I was wrestling the kids and they were being crazy. I apologize if it was offensive in nature.

I also am weary of some scientific studies. You have to be. They are all funded by someone and if you do not give the results that the people paying the bills want, you could see some negative feedback. But this does not mean that all science is bunk. You have to look at the whole picture.

I know that the jet stream does not explain all of the disasterous scenarios here on this planet, but it does help explain the weather here in the midwest. It is a mixture of all of the weather cycles, such as the ocean currents and such.

Originally posted by liejunkie01
reply to post by Iwinder

 

I understand where you are coming from and I think my post turned out to be a little hostile. I did not mean for it to be that way...I was wrestling the kids and they were being crazy. I apologize if it was offensive in nature.

I also am weary of some scientific studies. You have to be. They are all funded by someone and if you do not give the results that the people paying the bills want, you could see some negative feedback. But this does not mean that all science is bunk. You have to look at the whole picture.

I know that the jet stream does not explain all of the disasterous scenarios here on this planet, but it does help explain the weather here in the midwest. It is a mixture of all of the weather cycles, such as the ocean currents and such.

No problem, I didn't find your post hostile, if it makes me think about something then it was a good post.
I agree on the funding thing for sure and also keep in mind, the people that just want to keep their 100k and up a year job so they do what they are told.
The whole picture I see is that we are being lied to and nobody and I mean nobody is telling the truth, or they just don't know.

I am in Southern Ontario here and we just finished a record winter for being bad, they were still salting the roads here in April!
Then we had no spring at all, cloudy cold and rain every day but 6 days for March/April/May/ Now here it is the first week of summer gone and our temp out side today is 66 F with rain and a north wind.
4 months to go here and we are back into winter, our tomatoe plants here are midgets only 4 inches tall right now and they should be at least a good 14 inches.

Anyways off of my soap box here and back to the topic,
This weather is unnatural and I have never seen this before here in my 50 plus years living in the same city.
We are not getting answers and that worries me more than the weather.
Again no offense taken here by your post ......I love these discussions.
Tell your kids that Iwinder loved BO BO Brazil when he wrestled here in our area about 40 or so years ago:-)
Regards, Iwinder

Anecdotally, the weather pattern here in the US has changed severely in the last decade.

Weather forecasts used to show several weather patterns in the continental US.

California would be sunny, the Southwest would be cloudy, Midwest raining, etc.

But recently, the pattern is country wide, ie. if its raining in one spot it's raining pretty much everywhere else.

A broader look usually shows the pattern moving East in the northern hemisphere, and west in the south.

Very strange days, indeed.

Thank you for the numbers, friend! S & F!

Originally posted by sabbathcrazy
Their is no doubt that their is some kind of weather manipulation going on and if you need proof start looking up. I am not saying that all of this is caused by weather manipulation, but allot of these floods and tornado's are a result of weather manipulation. If you look at a weather radar you will see rings very fast lines moving across the radar that are oviasly not natural. Their are many video's on youtube that depict this.
Such as this video. (Watch it all the evidence is clear)
www.youtube.com...

24 Hours after these rings appear tornado's hit and heavy rain comes. We just got rain in Texas, 24 hrs before we got rain we had a LARGE ring just about the size of the state over us. I believe this is how it works. They send a bunch of clouds that cover the whole sky to give the air moister. Those clouds blow away and then more clouds come witch pick up that moister and cause's it to rain. I believe the radar rings direct the clouds, causes them to move towards the rings. We are going to see some AMAZING technology in our time. Weather manipulation will be talked about (if # does not hit the fan) openly with in the next 15 years. The existence of this technology is all ready being talked about widely and openly among the scientific community. If we know how the weather works then we can emulate it.

If sound wave vibrations can make things shake then we can create deep sound wave vibrations (waves that are to deep or high to hear) that can make the earth shake.

Sorry, but that kind of direct weather manipulation is simply NOT possible............although perhaps HAARP could be capable of a few types of indirect influences, such as perhaps exacerbating existing droughts, for example..........and certainly there IS evidence that HAARP can cause earthquakes. After all, it's basically Tesla Tech 2.0. The original machine may not have been capable of producing even a single rain shower, but the tremors that it accidently caused in New York back in 1905 were probably talked about for weeks afterwards.

Just trying to separate the wheat from the chaff here, that's all.

Originally posted by SonoftheSun
reply to post by Screwed

 

Hello Screwed,

Although I liked reading it, I am not sure I understand your reply...

Want to tell us a little bit more?

I was just trying to point out that no matter how much evidence there is for certain things,
If it challenges a fragile world view built upon lies and deciet, it will be scoffed at and denied.

I have read replies on this thread that make it clear that certain people are in such a state of denial
that they don't know their left from their right. How someone can look at clear scientific data pointing to a very
real albeit terrifying scenario and still come away with the same point of view is beyond me.
There are things happening right now that are very scary and VERY real.
I'll admit that it can be hard to come to terms with sometimes but, it is there and it must be dealt with.

Clearly the Earth is going thru changes and we are going to be getting the short end of the stick here.
Rather than getting into pissing contests about it, we should be facing the reality head on.
But, that is too much to ask for people with a very fragile world view who live in a space of fear.

Carry on.

reply to post by liejunkie01

And the jet stream is most likely shifting due to the grand minimum. There seems to be a strong link even though not fully proven between solar activity and the behaviour of jet streams.
www.sciencedaily.com...

The researchers suggest that the anomaly in Northern Europe's winter temperatures could be to do with a phenomenon called 'blocking'. 'Blocking' is related to the jet stream which brings winds from the west, over the Atlantic, and into Northern Europe but, over the past couple of winters, could have lost its way, for weeks at a time, in an 'anticyclone' before it reaches Europe. The researchers have found strong correlations between weak solar activity and the occurrences of 'blocking'. As the temperature is affected by a weak Sun so the wind's patterns also change and, as the warmer westerly winds fail to arrive, the UK is hit by north-easterlies from the Arctic.

Thanks for that very interesting and informative read SonoftheSun. I tend to appear/disappear on forums recently but this one deserved a pot.

It also deserves a star and flag

reply to post by SonoftheSun


Just another thing to show how devastating HAARP can be.

reply to post by chrismicha77


I wasn't saying you said that, sorry if you missunderstood me. I was having a go at carbon taxes.

reply to post by athenegoddess


Actually its your truth

THE truth is unknown because nature is a living reality, moving chancing, not static.

reply to post by earthling42


Actually, truth is known by those who have the power to receive cosmic universal information. For example in mathematics there is only one truth and you can bet that is what OUR reality is. If you want to analyze it, open up your 3rd eye and embrace the truth. It's a burden... I have sleepless nights. I am very well versed in astrology which is a language that to me is the most accurate form available for assessing our reality. It takes both logic and the gifts of spirituality to be accustomed to receiving the truth.

The only thing left to do is balance your karma and be grateful we are given such an advanced notice. A pole shift has occurred many times before there is scientific proof. It's secret information about the ages and the shifts. On 12-21-12 an even that only happens once every 25,920 years is about to go down.

Need I say more?

Originally posted by FreedomCommander
reply to post by SonoftheSun

 

Just another thing to show how devastating HAARP can be.

Could you please explain your one liner post a little?

I see you are relatively new to ATS. One liner HAARP comments are not that welcome around here, unless you have a little info to back that statement up with. I thought I would extend you this little helpful tip.

One of the problems, is that if you look at weather patterns over the course of the last 2000 years, there is nothing to see.

However, this weather is severe for our lifetimes, say 25-50 years or so. Further, we have grown so much in the last 200 years, that just because it has happened before doesn't mean it won't have more of an impact now.

A 7.0 earthquake that struck in 1700 is not going to have anywhere near the level of devastation as if a 7.0 were to strike now. More people, more infrastructure, more global reliance.

The rise in frequency of extreme weather is anthropomorphic all right, it's spelled HAARP

reply to post by SonoftheSun

Hey SonoftheSun,
Even though we are going through serious global changes, I do not think mankind is the sole contributor to current conditions. I do agree that something is happening. What I am worried about is -- while we are looking for human causes, we might be overlooking something beyond our control. When the Earth went through dramatic changes in the past, mankind only recorded a handful of events. The 'Medieval Warm Period', 'The Little Ice Age', and 'The Great Flood' have all been documented. Since mankind was not around 4-5 million years ago, we have no living records of what the Earth was doing. Heck, we don't have 'living records' on what the Earth was doing 12,000 years ago.

Click for image I: Grand Canyon
Click for image II: Grand Canyon

If you look closely at the images above, the lines in the Grand Canyon are proof of a massive geological event. Large bodies of water originally filled the entire canyon. As it moved its way from one end to the other, the water carved out rivers, gullies, underwater caves, etc...

Folks, even though mankind may be contributing to our current problems, the exact origin of these events may be well below the Earth's surface.

Volcano eruptions and earthquakes are not caused by global warming. All those events are caused by something heating up or moving underneath the surface. Earth is getting ready to go through some dramatic geological changes, which will pave the way for an entirely new ecosystem.

Mankind may not be able stop what is happening.

Click for Example: The Time Machine

Time of modern man may be passing.