Breaking News.. Brownsville Levee Near Cooper Nuclear Plant in Nebraska Just Broke! Here We Go !!!!

reply to post by predator0187


Not sure, but there would be more gen III reactors if the supposedly "green" activists hadn't made it practically impossible to build them in some countries. The first generation IV reactor will be completed by 2021, and it'll be even safer than the current generation III reactors (hopefully). All the reactors that cause problems like the ones in Chernobyl and Fukushima were generation II, which although they're fairly safe you still have a higher accident rate with them than generation III if you don't follow the proper safety procedures.

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Those figures definately don't include chernobyl... some estimates say 250k+ people have died from it.
Some forests in Germany you still can't eat the wild pigs and mushrooms etc. Chernobyl and other surrounding areas are definately not a property boom either...

Nuclear is obviously much safer than a hydro dam. Because you can see water killing you, but you can't see micron sized aerosolised fuel particles from Fukushima in your lungs and food, which also happen to be flowing down the missisipi river from rainout...

Problem is cancer is common since 1950s, so it's hard to blame a nuclear disaster for it.

What started development in the late 1940s?

Boom..

Coincidence? I think not.


Also I'd highly expect the nuclear industry to trumpet and jerk their own goat like mad if these outdated hunks of crap that produce power make it through. 'Yeah american designs are so much safer etc etc'. Meanwhile compeltely glossing over the fact that they can't really engineer for a 9+ earthquake and the fact that the fukushima plants are GE designed BWRs and that they didn't fail from the tsunami at all... Just wait and see.

The solution is extracting energy from the plethora of energy that surrounds and comprises us, but then we'd be free and not need any gas bills, power bills, money, stuck on this planet.. etc etc. Power structure crumbles. Boo hoo.


Back on topic... I do hope this water doesnt rise any more. Poor old haarp and other stations like it must need a break at some stage

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We have no technology that isn't in 'black projects' that can contain a 2500 degree centigrade plus, everlasting, self heating blob of molten corium. Generation ten million billion nuclear plant still can't handle the jandle if something goes wrong. We simply don't have conventional means to achieve this. Thicker containment just buys you more time to GTFO.

80% of all air accidents are caused by human error. Considering they let the diesel generators run dry before the tsunami hit at fukushima, plus built it nearly at sea level on some crumbling sandstone rock, on a fault, with a crappy mark 1 containment, running more thermal loads than they are designed for in at least reactor 3... Human error. Chernobyl. Human Error. TMI, Human error. These missisipi riverfront reactors are situated as such because its more efficient (read cheaper) to pump water from nearby. It's all about cost, not safety. Every time!

We can over-engineer all we want but we can't engineer around the idiot factor.

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Originally posted by Nosred
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Nuclear reactors are not ticking bombs, like I've said, you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than a generation III reactor having a meltdown. How many times have you been struck by lightning in your lifetime? Is the lightning a ticking timebomb? Should you avoid going outside from now on?

Do you drive a car? You have a much higher probability of dying in a car crash and killing or injuring dozens of people in the process than generation III reactors have of melting down. Should we ban cars now since they're ticking timebombs?

Edit: Also see above post, I edited it.

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Edit: The odds of getting struck by lightning are 1:280,000. The odds of a generation III reactor meltdown is 3:1,000,000,000. And that's assuming whatever caused the accident can't be fixed. How can you look at these numbers and tell me nuclear power is not safe, you have a bigger chance of dying from literally anything on Earth.

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You could take into account your likely # of victims and fix your stats but you probably wont. although I am for nuk power untill we get some alt sorces in place at least. They have not been thought out or implemented in the safest of ways. If they where I would have no problem with your assement but your stats should take in to account that the odds of lightning striking the same # of people that would possable be harmed by a reactor fail. other wise your stats dont mean anything sorry.

Originally posted by Observer99

Originally posted by loveguy
I'd like to see what you are referring to. Please provide a link.
Peace

I assume you are referring to my purely hypothetical fallout map, which is based on Fukushima data scaled for the same area. It's on page 4:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Again, the fallout is real data from Fukushima applied to the Cooper plant and shifted for an easterly wind (which is generally most likely.) The real fallout, if anything catastrophic happens, would depend on the amount of nuclear material released, and the prevailing wind and the rain. People at greatest risk (in theory) would be anyone inside the red 50 mi circle which is the stated evacuation area for US nuclear plants. This includes the entire cities of Lincoln, NE and Omaha, NE. Can anyone pinch me? Cause it seems like I'm having another nightmare.

Thank you.

has anyone heard anything about the powerplant

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/701f21d10cff.png[/atsimg]
www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov...
Minot flooding

Originally posted by Observer99
I took the liberty of properly scaling the actual fallout map from Fukushima, reversing it horizontally (for probable easterly direction as the most likely) and applying it for Cooper nuclear plant. Here you go:

Note that doesn't even take into account the likely contamination on the other side (where at Fukushima it fell into the ocean) and of course the contamination down the river, as well as to the east from rainfall etc.

What a wonderful, idyllic world nuclear power creates for us! We didn't really need those 4 states anyway! And for citizens of Omaha, Lincoln, Des Moines, Topeka and Kansas City who are inside the high-contamination zone -- just remember, nuclear power was worth it.

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The nuclear power watchdog, Beyond Nuclear, has reported that Cooper Nuclear Station is an "atomic reactor -- identical twin to Fukushima Daiichi Units 1 to 4" and that a sludge pond has been uncontrollably releasing contents into river due to flooding.Are Cooper's uncontrolled sludge releases into the Missouri River in fact non-radiological? This document from Cooper (see pages 30-31) shows that sludge at Pilgrim 1 (also a GE BWR Mark 1, just like Fukushima Daiichi Units 1 to 4) was intensely radioactive, begging the question, are the sludges in question in the holding pond at Cooper also radioactive? Note also a radiological overexposure incident at Brunswick Unit 2 atomic reactor in North Carolina, yet another GE BWR Mark 1

Continue reading on Examiner.com Large levee breach 3 miles up from Cooper Nuclear Station. Mandatory evacs - National Human Rights | Examiner.com www.examiner.com...

link to articlewww.examiner.com...

well this says its running and its already flooded or at least having problems so thanks for the map I will put it to good use

Here's a daily comparison of Missouri River levels for the last two days as reported by NEMA:

June 23rd, 2011 - posted at 3:30 pm

Missouri River
Verdel – 28.92 feet, flood stage is 24 feet
Niobrara – 26.34 feet, flood stage is 21 feet,
South Sioux City – 34.18 feet, flood stage is 30 feet
Decatur – 39.05 feet, flood stage is 35 feet
Blair – 32.53 feet, flood stage is 26.5 feet
Omaha – 34.07 feet, flood stage is 29 feet
Plattsmouth – 36.03 feet, flood stage is 26 feet
Nebraska City – 27.79 feet, flood stage is 18 feet
Brownville – 44.71 feet, flood stage is 33 feet
Rulo – 26.92 feet, flood stage is 17 feet

June 24th, 2011 - posted at 4:45 pm

Missouri River
Verdel – 28.92 feet, flood stage is 24 feet
Niobrara – 26.28 feet, flood stage is 21 feet,
South Sioux City – 34.14 feet, flood stage is 30 feet
Decatur – 39.96 feet, flood stage is 35 feet
Blair – 32.48 feet, flood stage is 26.5 feet
Omaha – 34.76 feet, flood stage is 29 feet
Plattsmouth – 35.66 feet, flood stage is 26 feet
Nebraska City – 27.77 feet, flood stage is 18 feet
Brownville – 43 feet, flood stage is 33 feet
Rulo – 26.36 feet, flood stage is 17 fee


The Fort Calhoun Nuclear Station is just south of Blair, NE

Originally posted by donlashway
earthquake.usgs.gov... this is a link to local earthquake data, did the levee fail or was it a very nice explosion? Thanks, to whoever, water not flooding Cooper and (dry maybe not) crypts for spent fuel at Calhoon not floating away yet.

so yesterday I looked up the earthquake data for the area around the levee failure and found a siesmic blip that might have resulted from an explosion, (back when the mississsippi was flooding and levees were blown up, they were prowd to show that the siesmagraphs picked it up) I was trying to show that even if it's not in the news someone was taking care of business. Maybe liability for flooded land would be plenty of reason to hide it or maybe not alarming any fearmongering people? But for me I posted it to show how desparite the situation is, and hope that more people who live on our potentaly damaged planet might feel as I do that I would rather live in the dark than glow in the dark. Shut cooper down before there is a problem, NOW!

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water.weather.gov... 5B%5D=all&allpoints=143990%2C145585%2C145025%2C145026%2C144876%2C145027%2C143234%2C143184%2C145519%2C145640%2C144217%2C142150%2C142780%2C142853%2C1452 02%2C141586%2C144582%2C143543%2C144796%2C144098%2C144240%2C141320%2C141614%2C142968%2C144183%2C142574%2C143478%2C142193%2C142760%2C142003%2C142610%2C1 42396%2C144496%2C147345%2C141899%2C143355%2C142050%2C141570%2C144165%2C143476%2C141703%2C142023%2C144123%2C141863%2C143539%2C143436%2C141917%2C143009% 2C142688%2C142640%2C143925%2C143734%2C142729&data%5B%5D=hydrograph&data%5B%5D=impacts&data%5B%5D=sitemap&data%5B%5D=crests&data%5B%5D=xml&submit=Make+ my+River+Page%21 The whole river report would you bet your planet that the Army Corps would handle it or would you shut COPPER down NOW just in case?

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so then I go and check the NRC site for any news and find out they don't work weekends, cool.

what kind of idiots store spent fuel rods in a flood zone, didnt we spend 50 trillion to excavate Yuka mountain for that...what a bunch of losers run the world.

Originally posted by mikellmikell
I'm still confused why anybody is worried and making false claims about the plant. It's shut down and has been for 3 months. You need to learn more about the nuk industry and visit some different sites besides the fear mongering blogs [/quote/]

yeah, but the one down the road is still active and ready to flood, flood away. So, who is up for fishing the 3 headed fishes. You won't need to buy a flashlight, the river will glow green so you can see the fishes. The next fukashima. CENTRAL U.S.A. SO,How do you like your rads.setting, medium, rare, or extra crispy to your skin?

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Originally posted by illuminatiDpress
what kind of idiots store spent fuel rods in a flood zone, didnt we spend 50 trillion to excavate Yuka mountain for that...what a bunch of losers run the world.

The same kind of idiots that will use radiation, CANCER to get rid of the population.

I was talking to a friend last night that is a contractor at Cooper. He said they have been busy building a 12 foot wall all the around the main plant of sand barrels, plastic, and sand bags, not the out buildings, but the main plant (reactor, pools, generators, etc...) just in case it should get a lot worse. Along with moving out from the site whatever they can.

Unlike Japan where there was no warning, at Cooper, due to the warning, at least there seems to be quite a bit of preparedness.

Doh I was still asleep and mixed up Brownville and Blair sorry.