Ciarette-Pack Psyop?

I for one do believe the premise of this piece, that the cigarette pack labeling mandate is insidious in ways that have nothing to do with getting people to quit...

...Now the government is ordering cigarette companies to label their product with horrific graphic images that no one wants to see, smoker or non-smoker. It's like the abortion issue. No matter where you stand on that topic, no one wants to see pictures of aborted fetuses on a billboard and having to comfort the traumatized children in the backseat who just caught a glimpse...

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reply to post by CobraCommander


I don't think this necessarily has anything to do with Psyops but a dumb attempt at trying to push people to stop smoking. When this fails I think ultimately they will outlaw them. Don't think there is any other hidden agenda in this tactic other than an epic fail....and a loss for what's next..I'm amazed that this type of graphic advertisement is going to go ahead..I would hate for my kid to pick up an empty pack of cigarettes only to see some graphic images that would ultimately be for mature eyes only...

reply to post by chrismarco


the government would never ban cigarette smoking...they make too much money taxing them

I can you tell you one thing. It's not going to work. I bet they'll be used as collector items though. lol Like one guy put it, might as well put pregnant woman, and herpes on beer, or why not graphic bloody accidents with heads chopped off from drunk drivers, while their at it too, Mad cow disease on Meats, obese people on Happy Meals, and any other graphical image you think of that isn't good for us, Zombie looking fools for gun control. Not going to solve a thing. People will do it and raising the prices is just pure BS. Should raise prices on some of your deviant habits while we're at it. I only think that's fair. Bubble Gum $5.00 a pack, cause germs from students sticking it to their desks, or water $10.00 a bottle. I heard water causes cancer too. Such stupidity. I always love the hypocritical dorks who smoke and pass these dumb laws.

reply to post by chrismarco


There's no way they would outlaw cigarettes. Tobacco industry makes too much money and health wise, it would be more beneficial to outlaw processed, empty calorie fast food. We know that would never happen.

The closest thing to it I could ever see happening, is banning smoking for anyone that wants government health care but I still think that's a little too outlandish, even for the government.

Truth be told I don't really see anything wrong with this. If its only on the cigarette pack, then the smoker will be the only one to see it. Unless of course that same person goes around showing the image on the pack to everyone.

I've traveled to parts of Asia and have seen these packs with the images, didn't think much of it. Neither did my smoking buddy.

FYI I don't smoke.

Originally posted by chrismarco
reply to post by CobraCommander

 

I don't think this necessarily has anything to do with Psyops but a dumb attempt at trying to push people to stop smoking. When this fails I think ultimately they will outlaw them. Don't think there is any other hidden agenda in this tactic other than an epic fail....and a loss for what's next..I'm amazed that this type of graphic advertisement is going to go ahead..I would hate for my kid to pick up an empty pack of cigarettes only to see some graphic images that would ultimately be for mature eyes only...

I see your point, but as the next poster said, they will never outlaw smokes, too much revenue. So that leaves only one real reason behind this.

Its nothing. Canada has had those pictures on our cigarette packages for a long time, as long as i've been smoking for sure. Its just a deterrent, and not even that good of one. Nothing really to worry about. The tobacco lobby makes too much money for the government to ban smoking. Same with booze. Same with pretty much everything legal and illegal to some degree.

If I am not mistaken, after the cigarette companies were sued by states backed by people's family members who died of cancer, etc. they agreed to make campaigns and warnings about smoking.

Now with the FDA saying graphic images must be included;
States and Gov receive too much from cigarette taxes to ban them, so in turn they put up these crazy ads, that might make people scoff at them or just nod their head and go about smoking.

theres been these graphic images on cig packets in the uk for a few years(i think australia, canada and a few more too). its just a governments way of pretending they want to stop people smoking.
and of coarse it doesnt work at all, it just depresses the smoker a little, but you soon learn to ignore the pics.

Originally posted by anon102
Truth be told I don't really see anything wrong with this. If its only on the cigarette pack, then the smoker will be the only one to see it. Unless of course that same person goes around showing the image on the pack to everyone.

I've traveled to parts of Asia and have seen these packs with the images, didn't think much of it. Neither did my smoking buddy.

FYI I don't smoke.

Did you not read the article? Not thinking much of it is exactly the point.

Well, at least its only images they're putting on it. Instead of jacking the price. What does a US citizen pay for a package of smokes on average. 3 - 5 dollars? i pay 12.

Originally posted by CobraCommander

Originally posted by anon102
Truth be told I don't really see anything wrong with this. If its only on the cigarette pack, then the smoker will be the only one to see it. Unless of course that same person goes around showing the image on the pack to everyone.

I've traveled to parts of Asia and have seen these packs with the images, didn't think much of it. Neither did my smoking buddy.

FYI I don't smoke.

Did you not read the article? Not thinking much of it is exactly the point

I did read the article kind sir and the bold part of your quote is exactly the point I was trying to make

I say don't fret about it.

reply to post by CobraCommander


actually, i like your train of thought.. please continue.

my first thought hearing about this was that 'the power of the mind' will have a larger impact on those who are smoking, i mean to say that the effect of smoking ( the negative effects of smoking that is ) will become more easily noticable among smokers.

i have more to say though. we all know that the effects of nicotine alone being 'consumed' are NOTHING compared to the effects of smoking cigarettes.. the reason being that cigarettes contain additives, pesticides, unnatural added chemicals .. none of this is good, in fact it's all toxic.

not to mention in the recent years we have seen the addition of the FSC ( fire safety cigarette ) laws. cigarettes now have a special 'gum' added in two to three places within a cigarette. the gum slows down the ember so that the cigarette can put itself out before it starts a fire.

what widespread fires were the cause for this need? i am under the impression that there were no widespread problems that warranted yet another additive, and a particularly more toxic one at that.

it would seem they are doing everything they can to make cigarettes as toxic as possible, the psycological effects of which being implemented from the new pictures - or as you said 'psyops'

Originally posted by AzureSky
Well, at least its only images they're putting on it. Instead of jacking the price. What does a US citizen pay for a package of smokes on average. 3 - 5 dollars? i pay 12.

$15 in NYC. I pay about $10.

This is my first post. All hail "ImNoAngel" LOL!

Being a smoker, I can only say that maybe these images will help me break the addiction. I have tried patches and "free will" and neither have stopped me. Smoking is a very strong addiction and I'm actually for this attempt to get younger folks to realize how addicting and dangerous smoking really is.

Only people that will get grossed out and quit are the one's that don't smoke in the first place. If our government really wanted people to quit smoking, they would make videos or programs on "Ways To Quit Smoking" and actually explain what nicotine does to your body and mind rather than trying to scare people into quitting. Most smokers will look at those pics and say, "WTF? I've been smoking for 20 years and I don't look like that, smoking affects people differently." And will keep on lighting up. What a joke!!!!!!

reply to post by anon102


Deny ignorance, read the article. They make a very good point.

They dont really impact anything at all. "Oh look, a gross picture" and on you go. continueing to smoke. to be honest, i dont even see them anymore. I look at the name "yep, these are mine". And i guess it depends where you live, i have a friend down in utah that pays 3.50. Seems fairly unfair, i pay 10 for a 20 pack. 12 for 25 pack. And those are the cheapest im willing to go.

reply to post by indigothefish


My local statistics show that fatalities through cigarette ignition fires have INCREASED since FSC. A friend of mine, a firefighter ironically, his mother and step-father died a few months after the law went in, from a cigarette on a mattress.