Have Less Kids! Gore Pushes Population Control

I hate so state what is a blatant--albeit uncomfortable fact:

There Are Too Many Human Beings on the Planet.

This is a fact. Our rate of growth and consumption is unsustainable--this is an understatement. We have spread and grown like a virus, and we are so utterly in love with ourselves, so proud of our thinly veiled destructions and stupidities, that we wish to continue our rutting ceaslessly. Guess what? We are not a great species. I get tired of the old back 'slapping "aint we neat" rubbish that gets thrown around.

There are too many of you! Of me and the other guy! This is a fact/truth/axiom/what have you. Get over it. I do not propose for a second that weapons or other means are used to wipe out an existing portion of the global population, but YES--if we are to continue life on this planet--we DO need to curb our rates of procreation. It is high time people withdrew their heads from their own behinds and took a hard look at the situation.

Maybe even try and create a better world for children to come to before we go on filling up the world with our progeny?

reply to post by e11888


Thank you for posting this Al-Gore is a hypocrite a liar and a Fraud.

He is Buddies with the IPCC who falsified the Data see 'Climate Gate'



Also refer to my post here to Clarify his exaggerations of our CO2 Contributions (which have a minimal effect to on climate)

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Every time somebody tells me "99.9% of scientists believe in AGW," I hit 'em back with "Yes, because 99.9% of scientists are utterly dependent on government grants for their next meal." Cross the funding source, and you can count on having no budget next year. These politicians are hell-bent on taking over the energy sector--which is the whole enchilada, really--and they've got "science" over a barrel.

Our contribution is about like a person pushing on the back of a freight train that is rolling downhill. Does that person have a contribution? Yes. Is it significant? Not in the slightest.

Putting it all together: total HUMAN greenhouse gas contributions add up to about 0.28% of the greenhouse effect

See my Link For Clarification

reply to post by Milleresque


No There isn't too many humans there is enough space for every human on the planet to have 1000 Sq ft of space if we were to all live in the State of Texas.

1000 sq feet per person equates to about 32X32 feet and this is only if we had everyone living in Texas

Now expand it to the whole world.

Keep touting and spouting that non-sense you are only helping bolster the Elites depopulation Agenda

There is plenty of Room for More humans.

his is very interesting, because if you took the entire population of the world (roughly seven billion people), and stood them side by side in the state of Texas, each person would have 1000 square feet!

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What i find intresting is, that when we talk about the world being overpopulated, we think of a huge city with skyscrapers, encroaching on the forest, or swamps. Well, we dont have to live like this. After all, since recently weve started living like this, our culture has dramaticaly degraded. So if you ask me, we have enough room for everyone, plenty, maybe just not the same type of living we currently support? maybe more tribal, clannish groups, is the best way to go? just a idea.

- Me

Originally posted by Milleresque
There Are Too Many Human Beings on the Planet.

This is a fact.

Then leave. Infact, if everyone who shared this belief were to leave, they would be contributing to their cause, but usually when this is asserted it really means there are too many human beings on this planet-- except me. Otherwise it's a contradiction; your existence on this planet becomes a contradiction. So, you're either lying or your convictions are more bark than bite.

reply to post by Maslo


Destroying the planet, before having a new one to go to, isn't a better solution.

I wasn't accusing you - I was suggesting that it is very much easier to tolerate oppression when you get some of the action. The suffering of others is less bothersome when it comes with perks.

Originally posted by Victor03
reply to post by e11888

 

AL Gore is the ultimate hypocrite. I work in Nashville TN where just one of his homes sits in upscale Belle Meade. The notion that he really cares about anything other than himself flew out the window a while back in this town.

Yup, you said it. The media used to badger him about it, asking what he was personally implementing in his own giant mansion to save the environment. He finally started telling everyone that he was buying carbon credits. You probably know the theory- buy a carbon credit and someone somewhere in the world plants a tree to offset your wasteful use of energy. That might make some people sleep better at night, but rest assured it's not helping the environment at all. Why? Because there is no policing entity watching over the outfits that are selling said credits. There's no verification that the trees are planted at all, and even if they are there's no followup to verify that they're being cared for until they can get established. And to add insult to injury, it turned out Gore had ownership in the company that he was supposedly buying credits from. So he was taking money out of his left pocket and sticking it in his right, and patting himself on the back for being sooooo green. Seriously, if there's ANYONE that could afford a bank of solar panels, a field of windmill generators and a water reuse system it's Al Gore. Why in the world he expects the economically struggling masses to expend their diminishing funds on such luxury items when a filthy rich AND environmentally- aware person such as himself is not willing to do it is beyond me. "Hypocrite" is exactly what he is.

Regarding overpopulation, there's a move afoot to make the affluent and intelligent people of this world feel guilty about having money, having possessions, having clean water, having children, etc. etc. So the affluent have reduced themselves to having a kid or two while the impoverished continue to crank out children as if they can raise themselves out of poverty by sheer quanitity. Folks, jobs don't come from a job tree in the garden. They come from those same affluent people that are being bombarded with calls to feel guilty for getting a little ahead in life. But when anyone dares to suggest that perhaps something should be done about the rampant births among the impoverished, well that's threatening their RIGHTS. Having children is NOT a right, it is a privilege, and it's time people addressed it as such.

Now why doesn't he make sure that this message is spreading throughout the third world? birth rates in the west are falling anyway but clearly rising everywhere else.

Good job Al Gore, let's follow China's lead, now all we have to do it kill 45 million people since Bush practically initiated a dictatorship with the Patriot Act. Little does Al Gore know, the planet might go through 200 year cycles in which it brightens and heats the planets in the solar system up. I think this is just another step in progressing New World Order.

Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by pryingopen3rdeye

 

according to the us census bureau the average american birth rate is 1.5 kids per 2 parents,

Source? According to this link, the US total fertility rate is 2.06 per woman, which is considered ideal:

www.indexmundi.com...

oh sorry, i was referring to the non-Hispanic birth rates, i mean really, i love mexicans, many of my best friends are so, but lets face it, an america which has nothing but mexicans in it is no longer america, its just new mexico, as much as i love mexicans, i love my own race too, and i do not want to see them stamped out,

idealy would be if we could birth the same amount as them, but, we arent,

imo we should never support population control, we should support growth, we should encourage birth all the way up to an worldwide average birthrate of 5, at least, (never will happen) and if it did, then at that point our only next step should be more growth, look into space at all these planets ready and waiting to house life and new societies, that is growth, that is moving on to new frontiers,

www.census.gov...
""Non-Hispanic Whites, the slowest growing group, are likely to contribute less and less to the total population growth in this country. Although non-Hispanic Whites make up almost 75 percent of the total population, they would contribute only 35 percent of the total population growth between 1990 and 2000. This percentage of growth would decrease to 23 percent between 2000 and 2010, and 14 percent from 2010 to 2030. The non-Hispanic White population would contribute nothing to population growth after 2030 because it would be declining in size. ""

Originally posted by Maslo

Originally posted by laiguana
reply to post by TheOneElectric

 

It's good to see some common sense thrown out every now and then on the internetz. I have to agree whole-heartedly with this as well...
The amount of stress we are putting on our environment and on the planet in general is unprecedented and gets worse as time passes. Why? Because the human population is still experiencing exponential growth.
The fight for natural resources will only worsen if the human population is not curbed SOON
Gore isn't always the best face for environmentalism, but he's dead on regarding this issue. BTW if I had been 18 at the time of the 2000 election...I would have voted for him.
Unfortunantely, baby boomers have a tendency to ruin everything, including the future of younger generations.

edit on 22-6-2011 by laiguana because: (no reason given)

This video explains the dangers of exponential growth. Good to put things into perspective.

when learning about exponential growth, and looking at all those numbers and math, people often forget that the numbers represent people, and people die, everyone dies, obviously,

another thing people fail to remember is we are meant to grow, never to stagnate. to be free, never to be controlled, so dont support population CONTROL.

I think having less kids is smart, you should think about your children. If you go and have 4 or more kids and you get laid off will the economy going down the drain you are going to feel mighty silly.

Kid: "Daddy, can we get some ice cream"

Dad: "ICE CREAM, HAHAHAHA. We got perfectly good socks soaked in rabbit turd honey, how about you feast on that"


Harsh reality, but who knows...

seriously, i do not get how what al gore says on this occasion can be took as NWO agenda, population control etc.
all he seems to be talking about is educating people about the worlds problems, educating them about what impact more people in the world will have on it and the ability to provide for all, how it will effect quailty of life etc.

it is not a forced limit or birth control in anyway, it is education, people will be better informed in planning for a family and will take on board factors they never thought about or were not aware off. it would be the parents decision how many kids they have even after listening to the information, nothing is FORCED.

it would be like me trying to educate my kids about not having to many kids because of cost/establishing a career first, and then being accused of birth control.

the world is a mess, whats wrong with informing people first BEFORE they decide to whack out 10 kids so they know what the effects can be or what type of world they may be bringing them into. i reckon alot of people will have less kids if they knew, how is that bad? would you rather they had more and gave more reason to the n.w.o. as to why depopulation is needed. i would rather it be depopulation through less born through smart choices and considerations, rather than fake wars and 'natural disasters' or rounding up.

wether we like it or not, it will be one way or the other, and i know which one i prefer.

reply to post by lifeform11


I take it as a part of the "NWO agenda" because population control is definitely something that's going to be crucial if one worldwide government is set up, and China passed that one-child policy back in 1978 which has prevented an estimated 400 million deaths (wikipedia'd), and this seems like it's just setting the stage for America to pass something similar.

Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by lifeform11

 

I take it as a part of the "NWO agenda" because population control is definitely something that's going to be crucial if one worldwide government is set up, and China passed that one-child policy back in 1978 which has prevented an estimated 400 million deaths (wikipedia'd), and this seems like it's just setting the stage for America to pass something similar.

then you should also be against condoms and the pill, they are birth control to. however they are not usually considered a bad thing because there is an all important factor to them that always counts on this issue. CHOICE.

when ever there is choice i see no problem with birth control, it is the person who chooses to have or have not, it is no different with this educational thing.

reply to post by lifeform11


There's one huge difference between population control and birth control, and you mentioned it yourself; a person can choose to use a condom or take the pill, but if this population control thing was kicked into gear, it would be a law like in China, and people could be getting thrown into jail for having more than one kid.

reply to post by TupacShakur


but that is not what he is saying or doing, when/if he does then it is a bad thing, untill/if it does it is all based on choice and centered around education which has a goal of making a case to each person as to why they should have less kids. but it is their choice.

the reason i mention condoms and the pill is because they have the same goal. less kids = less people, but through choice.

reply to post by lifeform11


Ah I see, I had the idea that it would be enforced by law much like in China, there's my conspiracy theorist mind at work.

reply to post by pryingopen3rdeye

imo we should never support population control, we should support growth, we should encourage birth all the way up to an worldwide average birthrate of 5, at least, (never will happen) and if it did, then at that point our only next step should be more growth, look into space at all these planets ready and waiting to house life and new societies, that is growth, that is moving on to new frontiers,

Nope, the ideal fertility rate is around 2.1, either slowly rising or diminishing according to the needs of society. We will never colonize space just because the Earth is overpopulated, otherwise Africa would be colonizing moons of Saturn by now. Space will be colonised by scientific and economical elite. Overpopulation will be solved either by population control, or famines, diseases and wars. Sadly, the second option looks more likely currently..

But you are right, the US and developed world does not need population control.

I find it kinda funny people on here on stating that it's a good thing to have less kids,while this is true the concerned is when a government chooses to make it a law thus limiting your freedom of giving life, If something like that really did happen I bet everyone agreeing with Gore would quickly change sides.

Also I remember seeing somewhere that if the entire human population were to line up hand in hand we could all fit in the state of Texas, so going by this wouldn't that mean overpopulation is just a scare tactic? Kinda like Climategate...