Crop circle in Italy with binary message, another hoax?

reply to post by OccamAssassin


I wouldn't want to be any near a magnetron and a gas filled lawnmower working as a system. This device is nothing more than an expensive bomb!

reply to post by OccamAssassin

Yes, could be a microwave weapon, but shouldn't this require a high-level technology? Especially for a precise target such as the rapeseed stem basis.
Plus what's the purpose of such an action in rapeseed fields, and especially in South England?

I guess that, for this precise point, it raise more questions than answers!

To both awakentired & elevenaugust

A magnetron is a directional emitter. Where you point it is where the beam goes.

In a microwave oven, there is a diffuser - in most cases it looks like a fan with 45deg blades that spin horizontally - at the top of the oven and it spreads out the waves so that the food is cooked relatively evenly. Without it, we would end up with food burnt in some points and uncooked in others.

Magnetron's are not what I would call a high-level technology. Humans have been using them since WWII in RADAR systems and have been a common household object(in a modern/western house) since the 1980's.

There are many other applications for using magnetron s in industry. I remember(late 1980's) seeing a wood mill using a combination of microwaves and a press to heat and squeeze tree trunks into a square shape instead of cutting the trunks to square as you would normally find in a wood/lumber mill.

A few years ago Mythbusters were using a magnetron to try and thwart(unsuccessfully) Police RADAR by firing the magnetron toward a "speed trap".

The car the magnetron was fitted to didn't explode and I don't seem to recall them mentioning having any problems with their insurance to do the experiment. Usually they will just abandon an experiment if their insurance co' flags it as too risky.

So, from here we can ascertain that the magnetron doesn't make the device its fitted to a bomb unless the people making it are idiots - not likely - and the technology is far from being considered "high-level"

reply to post by OccamAssassin

Thanks for your reply.

Well, when I said "high-level" technology, this is not for the magnetron itself, but rather for all the procedure that surrounding its use.
Pardon my ignorance, but I have a hard time to see how, practically, someone (or many peoples) can use a magnetron to bend all the stems in a geometrical pattern, without entering the field (doing so would undoubtedly leave traces in the fragile rapeseed field).
Shouldn't this have to be done using either aerial means or long-range magnetron(s)?

He is still watching over you, there are two kind of humans, those that follow the system, and those that can think for themselves and follow thier hearts.

Originally posted by elevenaugust
reply to post by OccamAssassin

 

Thanks for your reply.

Well, when I said "high-level" technology, this is not for the magnetron itself, but rather for all the procedure that surrounding its use.
Pardon my ignorance, but I have a hard time to see how, practically, someone (or many peoples) can use a magnetron to bend all the stems in a geometrical pattern, without entering the field (doing so would undoubtedly leave traces in the fragile rapeseed field).
Shouldn't this have to be done using either aerial means or long-range magnetron(s)?

The magnetron device I was told about was a lawnmower frame fitted with rollers and several magnetrons. The whole unit was controlled by stepping motors hooked up to a computer that was wired to a GPS.

Unfortunately a lot of the gadgets used to make them only last for a few weeks/months as they are made by students without money. The GPS lawnmower with rollers that I saw was returned to its former self within two weeks of the project as the parts for it were all borrowed from the students parents and the mech workshop at uni.

reply to post by OccamAssassin


In my early training as an electronic tech we used studied and used magnetrons as radar pulse generators. I know the theory quite well. The beam must travel along a waveguide and then emitted from an antennae for propagation. This is where you loose precision your directional control. Any antennae available back then would have the most power center of the beam and a logarithmically degrading strength away from center.
Your lawnmower would make a pattern of water burned blades of "grass" along a path with mostly mildly disrupted stems along the edges. It would be easy to spot.

This doesn't answer the findings of crystallized soil beneath the pattern either. The US military has radar jammers that can't produce that kind of power, but with the power it has it would burst any plants in the path of the radar signal.

There is no way that these were used to create the unbroken patterns that are evident in some of the most complex designs.

i'll stick with my earlier comment. This lawnmower is best used as a bomb.

Very neat piece of art...but why binairy-code? Why not use plain sumerian or chineese if you have something to say...therefore probably and most likely a hoax.

reply to post by zatara

Good question, I guess that this simply because English is the most comprehensive language and that Binary is one of the most universal language.

My 2 cents...

reply to post by elevenaugust


Yeah,...I know. I was thinking about this 'official' universal language too but for my intuition is the use of binairy code too obvious and convieniant for making people belief the message. And who says that binairy code is the universal language.....do we have agreed with the inter-stellar counsel of galaxies that it is?

No...do not understand me wrong....I want to belief.... but what do we know about what aliens use for language.

Did we see any binairy-code on the sumerian clay tablets or on any ancient artifact or historical account/art of aliens made by humans? The first time we did see binairy code was when the guy who invented it showed it to the world.

If aliens would have a message for us they would sent something like we did put on the voyager....something strange for us at first sight but after studying would be understandable and logic. So far all the cropcircles are either too difficult for us to understand (which is suspicious and points toward hoax). Or they look like some puzzle created with familiar human symbols (if they understand so much about human symbols why not write plain language).

It is all to cryptic and playfull...therefore I lean towards that all cropcircles are made by humans. Not made by men with plancks and ropes but probably with some militairy satelite or man made tech we do not know anything about. Why.......to confuse us, to make us belief something that isn't there or true.