How will you react if Bush wins big in November?

If Bush wins I'll probably ask S.O. to find someone else to mod this forum. :w:

Originally posted by KrazyIvan

Originally posted by lockheed
I hear it put this way....

The country is in a hole, Bush wants to move us to the right in that hole, while Kerry wants to move us left. Libertarians want to get us out of it.

thatll take a lot of luck

Not luck but persistence.

It wont happen this election or probebly the next but if we keep plugging away it WILL happen.

If Bush wins by a landslide I will probably be mad. If he tries to get the draft reinstated, Konnichi wa, ogenki desu ka Japan?

If Bush wins? I will be putting a lot of thought into leaving the country. I have always wanted to live in Canada.

What do you think will happen in the next 4 years in the U.S. (and around the world) if Bush gets re-elected?

Well, I seriously doubt either candidate will win BIG...

What would happen? Hmm....

Just months after the re-election, you'd likely see Isreal launch a strike on nuclear facilities in Iran. Eventually, the hub-bub of all this will die down, but during this crisis, we'll be able to build up the forces in and around Iran. About a year or more after election day, we'll see a US "Coalition" strike on Iran (after a bit of fluffy evidence to the world press at large) but not a land invasion. This action will be just to knock out the C&C centers, air force, and tanks of Iran (as well as some massive troop bombardment). It's even possible, that a captured Bin Laden will be "discovered" hiding in Iran, to use as justification.

It will NOT be an occupation though. It will be more like the Gulf War in this instance. This will likely be in prep for a more massive downsizing (months afterwards) in Iraq. (to ensure that Iraq's old nemesis doesn't make waves in the more unprotected Iraq)....

If this can be done successfully, and in a reasonable amount of time... By the second year of the next term, you can expect one of two things... Either China starts cutting off NK...or the US will get China to turn a blind eye (after all, we are their biggest customer) to a small strike on NK aimed at taking out Kim, as well as some nuclear facilities, and air force targets. (about the scope of the opening few days of the Gulf War). Again, no land forces, just a decapitation strike, and lessening their ability to make war.

Basically, I'd say we're looking at a full blown WWIII (sans nukes) in about 2-3 years after re-election...and the implemenation of more "security" steps, towards the beginning of this....

War of words
War of trade
War of Culture
War of Religion
....Basically what we have going on now, but there won't be anywhere to turn from it. We have the good fortune of being able to dsassociate our lives from the peril we're in now; via school/jobs/search for jobs...whatever. That won't be the case.
Initially, we'll go on a house cleaning tour: N.Korea, Iran, Syria. We'll see the genocide of Palestinians, for no other reason than to free up the Israeli's to fight in the ME theater.
It will be far less of a cronyism adventure, as the global scale will necessitate the Bush junta sharing the pie; once profit is to be made, we'll have buy in. Almost forgot to mention the armed overthrow of Venezuela and the Haitian "base" leading to other Caribbean adventures.
We'l be a neo-fascist state operating under the guise of a police state. The terror attacks that they're getting ready to let happen now will be smaller scale to the big capper that will push us into full ASHKROFT.
You'll see the world rise up against us, with China being everyone's new "defender" & the Putin Putz's falling in as comrades against us.

All that being said.......some patriot's threshold will be far lower and the first legitimate (warranted) assasination of a US president will occur. My money is on John McCain!

CIA executives gathered in Santiago de Chile
Venezuela state-owned news agency VENPRES is quoting an El Mundo de Madrid (Spain) report that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is set to put a contingency plan in motion in the (likely) event that President Hugo Chavez Frias wins next weekend's Recall Referendum.

(remember that scene in the "Untouchables" with the baseball bat?)


Check this BULLSHIIIT out!:

"CIA under secretary for southern hemispherical affairs, William Spencer, has been drafted to Santiago de Chile to analyze the "Venezuelan situation" with CIA country directors from Colombia, Ecuador, Brasil and Peru. Spencer is reportedly convinced that Chavez Frias intends (no matter how fanciful) to create two centers of "revolutionary focus" in South America in preparation to overthrow Colombian President Alvaro Uribe Velez and Bolivia's Head of State, Carlos Mesa.

Spencer espouses the theory that Chavez Frias will then forge onwards using a domino effect to include the overthrow of Peru's Alejandro Toledo, using multiple corruption scandals there as a pretext for invasion. Washington apparently sees Chavez Frias' progress as a "corrosive action" in a continuing Bolivarian Revolution which will expand easily into countries such as Ecuador where indigenous political are already reacting strongly to Washington's ideas of neo-liberalism.

TRANSLATION: The US is making a hemispheric movement where there is none; in essence, creating a big bad boogeman out of what was Venezuelean politics - the populist Indio & lower classes using their numbers to quell the oligarchy that was in place. Venezuela was a true experiment in Democracy. Second, the idea that Venezuela has any sort of army to create any sort of domino effect on the continent is like saying that the South Korean basketball all star team would go undefeated on a tour of NBA franchises.
Latinos are a proud & productive part of the US's wealth & well being. There are numerous same generation ties to these South American countries. They ARE about to be turned upside down worse than the days of Otto Juan Reich running things under Regean, with a bloodshed & carnage equal to or worse than anything going on in the Middle East......in our own backyard.......with many of our own family members in harms way......

DON'T SLEEP ON SOUTH AMERICA!!! Regardless of what the 6 o'clock news tells you to focus on.

Iran's Bushehr Is 90% Ready

Russia has completed more than 90 percent of the Bushehr nuclear reactor in Iran. Russian officials said Moscow has accelerated work on the Bushehr power reactor.

REASONS:

1. Get paid befor it gets blown up
2. Give Iran some sort of Ace in the hole
3. Appear independent of the US teet ( future teaming against the US Evil Empire credability)
4. a "F**k Yo, very Much" for the US messing up their Iraqi payday
5. ALL OF THE ABOVE

Personally, I think it's 5.

But another twist? Give Bush a strawman to attack; meaning, make nuke technology seem advanced enough to justify an attack.

US mulling 'many means' to keep nukes out of Iran

White House national security adviser Condoleezza Rice on Sunday said the United States could not rule out taking covert action against Iran to disrupt its nuclear weapons program. "We will use many means to try to disrupt these programs," Rice told NBC television. "The president [sic] will look at all the tools that are available to us."

You've got to give cred as to when they trot out old horse face , Condi "long Grain" Rice, to float test balloons on the GOP media circuit ( psst....that's all of th alphabet media & their cable offshoots )

With Russia being in the top three of the worlds Natural gass & Oil producers.......can you say Quid pro Quo!?!

Maybe it 's #5 & this too? Them KGB fellas are sharp!

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If bush wins by a landslide.........
First I'll celebrate
Then I'll open a travel agency to help all you disinfranchised libs move to whatever country you want.
Buy stock in boeing, lockheed, and trw, and short oil futures
Watch as America finally starts dealing with our enemies (Iran North Korea etc.)
Laugh as Europe whnes and cries about the evil U.S.

First I'll cash my next 300 dollar check, then I will watch the U.S soldier death toll rise along with our national debt.

I suppose I'll trade in my SUV for a Honda that gets over 40 MPH to dodge the $7.00 a gallon price on gas.

Hopefully the one good thing he did will take off and we can watch NASA prepare for the exploration of the moon and mars.

Watch my social security I paid for go bye bye since he had 4 years to work on it and has done nothing.

Nothing much we can do, but sit and watch him destroy our childrens
future.

Bush had 4 years and has nothing to show for it except the worst case of mismangement of our Forieng Policy ever. What do you really think 4 more years will accomplish?

If Bush wins in a landside I will join the Republican party, dump my leftcenter views, spout "conservative" propaganda at every opporunity, become a Christian, lay low and try to find a feasible way to move me and my family out of the Hellhole this nation will become. Its better to pretend to be a Nazi then to be sent to a concentration camp as a dissident.

This country will not be a place were I want live if Bush runs it for 4 more years. I mean look how bad things got after 4 years imagine 8!!

Didnt several celebrity types say they would move out of the USA if Bush was elected in the first place?
They're still here....Hmmm all talk no action?
Mabey this time, with a Bush victory, we'll get to see Susan Sarandon and Sean Penn take the hike to France...good riddance.
Perhaps a bunch of others will follow,and my morning commute will get less congested as many people throw themselves needlessly off bridges over a Bush victory.
If his first win wasnt bad enough to drive away the hollywood types, i dont think we'll see a mass exodus of people this time either....
Mabey its still better to live here even under Bush than it would be to go elsewhere eh?

Well, I'm sure he'll invade Iran, and eventually America will get sick of all the pointless wars that solve jack and his brother, and finally vote his buddies out (since I don't think Bush is in charge of anything) and for years we'll be traumatized as a nation about the desert wars, and finally things will get normal for about eight years until we forget and elect a new retard-in-chief, and the cycle will begin again.

That's my optimistic view. My other view is I flee the country and move to Australia.

Well regardless of who wins I'm moving back to the EU in a year or so, but I may advance my plans if Bush wins.

May Peace Travel With You
~Astral

Looks like we need the other side in this thread...

If Bush wins, I'll cheer, clap and brief a sigh of relief that Kerry will be windsurfing for 4 more years instead of appeasing the terrorists and given our national security to the UN.

Thank God and the Heavens Above that the man with more Flip Flops than Jimmy Buffet did not get into highest office in the land

It's insane that people believe that somebody who changes his/her mind on an issue after they have weighed consequences they may not have initially been made aware of, is a flip flopper. It's a good quality for somebody to be able to admit they were wrong. Bush will never do that, even though he is wrong more than anybody. Fortunately, I don't believe Bush will win in November, unless they find a way to steal the election again. I hope not, with all my heart.

I was just livid when he won last time...or elbowed his way....if he wins this time...I'll be absolutely pissed! My youngest is moving to Canada in Sept. I have seriously been thinking about it. I am NA and this our home...we have no other home land.....bush irks me to no end! For me to be thinking of leaving my country say a lot about what I think of him.

How will I react?
Surprised anyone was able to win big.

What would I do?
lol, same thing everyone else does after an election. Nothing.

Why would I move to Europe or Canada and be exposed to all kinds of racism (yeah yeah I know it's here in America too but why go some place where there's more), anti americanism, a 10 fold decrese in quality of life, and even more loss of freedoms for nothing?
If you were smart you would just head down to the nearest sparsely populated tropical island

But seriously, whatever happens to the US will effect the world so why bother leaving.

Originally posted by LadyV

I was just livid when he won last time...or elbowed his way....if he wins this time...I'll be absolutely pissed! My youngest is moving to Canada in Sept. I have seriously been thinking about it. I am NA and this our home...we have no other home land.....bush irks me to no end! For me to be thinking of leaving my country say a lot about what I think of him.

Ah another Natalie Mains Alec Baldwin Type....puleaseeeeeeeee you you are thinking about leaving the country because you do not get your way for president. All I can Say is Bush is better than that Flip Flopping War Criminal

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