CIA Web site down; LulzSec claims responsibility

I see a little fibbing in the narrative that "lulzec" has compromised CIA computers.

I would think the CIA would know that even mentioning the fact that its computers have been compromised would be a security flaw in itself.

The CIA would have nothing to gain from mentioning anything about any attack on their computer...

Except,

If The Corporate entities who control the CIA wish to spread propaganda and manipulate the population in general,,,, what better way would be to blame a specific group "lulzsec" in order to change things.

This sounds way to familiar , does it not?

It is almost as if ,, the new "alqida" is now "Lulzsec".

The population needs an enemy. I believe the PTB have found a new one that will serve its purpose!

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To be a terrorist, one needs to have intent to spread fear and terror. I don't see any of these attacks as causing fear and terror in any way, except maybe in TPTB. None of these attacks (apart from the Sony Network thing) have really targeted the common man, and until they do there's no way we can consider these groups terrorists.

I hate to be the one to say it but someone has to

Lulzsec and Anonymous are not the same

just one article out of many, please visit your nearest google

venturebeat.com...

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Me thinkls I punched the wrong button. My reply was meant for the OP. I agreed with your point and since you made the point before I did I was more or less tagging along on you point...sorry but sometimes I pick the wrong reply button.

WHOIS information for cia.gov : [Querying whois.nic.gov] [whois.nic.gov] % DOTGOV WHOIS Server ready Domain Name: CIA.GOV Status: ACTIVE

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Nah... they are just bouncing of proxy's.. nothing new to see there im afraid.

I live in australia and for me to access uk tv websites (bbc i player for example) i have to route through a proxy server so they think i am also connecting from inside the country.

Looks to me that you have just found a link to a spurious proxy. I will take a look later when i am not so busy at work (lol)

Maybe they can hack into some ufo documents if there are any.

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I don't see any of these attacks as causing fear and terror in any way, except maybe in TPTB.

Ah, but there's the kicker! All it takes is for the Pentagon to put Lulzsec on their list of terrorist organizations.
I doubt they would do that though; It would merely legitimize the obvious threat that LS poses to the US government. And like their 150,000 followers on twitter, it would just be something else LS brags about.

I'm sure we will all go lulz when some judge rules in favor of monitoring everyones activity on the internet citing LulzSec as a valid reason to bypass any and all kind of civil rights. Hell I'm not even the conspiracy type but its almost that I think its not just someone doing it for the lulz, its a goverment agency doing it with intent and purpose.

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I'm not saying I'd put it past the Pentagon to put LS on their list of terrorist organisations without having committed a terrorist act. But it's a heck of a lot harder, in terms of the public reaction.

I'm just saying if one of these groups launched an attack that actually impacted seriously on the living conditions of the general public they'd be on that list in a flash. Until they do that, it's going to be very tricky for TPTB to paint them as 'an enemy of the people' etc.

If they plan on doing any "good" for the common people, they need to first stop disabling these websites. It does nothing but stir up the hornets nest for more net control. It doesn't get anyone evil fired, it doesn't change policies, it doesn't change the course of corruption. In order to be effective they need to do something credible. Find some coverups, wrongdoings the govt. has done. Something that will make the public see them as a good, truth exposing group rather than a malicious bunch set on childish acts.

Originally posted by JackBauer
If they plan on doing any "good" for the common people, they need to first stop disabling these websites. It does nothing but stir up the hornets nest for more net control. It doesn't get anyone evil fired, it doesn't change policies, it doesn't change the course of corruption. In order to be effective they need to do something credible. Find some coverups, wrongdoings the govt. has done. Something that will make the public see them as a good, truth exposing group rather than a malicious bunch set on childish acts.

at this point i'd say they are more enamored with the 60s movie hero persona: in the 1960s, movie heroes were often very hard to tell apart from the bad guys. there was no clear line of demarcation. you often had to search hard to find some endearing or noble feature.

I think there are more important websites that could be taken down if they were looking to prove something.

For instance:

Facebook
Twitter
Hulu
YouTube



Really though, how crippling is it that this website isn't up? Now I cannot access their World Factbook!

Let them keep on. Screw these bastards and their threats. There are more important things to life than the internet. It can go down for a period of time in the principle of war, if that's what DC wants to call it. Strangle the controlling snakes where it hurts.

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OOoOoOooOooOOooH.... they took down the CIA's public website.. how impressive these guys are no more than the second child mentality, and by the way it doesn't take much to shut down a public website. If they want to be taken seriously they need to actually give the public something FROM the governments actual system.. who cares if they can hack a public website.

I just had a thought on how to tell if this is a false flag perpetrated by the government: is it being reported heavily by the main stream media? If it is it's most likely a false flag. Common sense right?

Darn, I was hoping to read their Mission Statement today...
(That is all that they show on that website.)

Yay! Lets rejoice at crime, terror and chaos!

....NOT.

You guys will see things a little differently when you grow up.

Another psyops to put more constraints on internet use.
Not buyin it.

Yes, take down the social networks if you want people to notice anything. Bugging the government is like a gnat bothering a horse. It's just inconvenient, I am sure nothing important was there. This sounds like some kids got brave, not revolutionaries.

LULSec and ANNON are becoming jokes....yep I said it.

Do something significant, stop wasting news space with the kiddie hacks.

Originally posted by Redwookieaz
I just had a thought on how to tell if this is a false flag perpetrated by the government: is it being reported heavily by the main stream media? If it is it's most likely a false flag. Common sense right?

It's reported because this sort of news is something people will read and laugh at. MSM is not as nefarious as you would believe, news is ratings, ratings is money, money is power. Do the math, its pretty straightforward.