The REAL Reason for Vaccines

Revolution9,

I wasn't going to post today, but I don't expect us to have the Internet in it's current form for much longer, so I decided to post it today while we can still talk freely.

I'll get myself the Book of Enoch this week

Originally posted by Revolution9

Originally posted by jameshawkings
So true, sometimes it's better to be killed fast! I've been meaning to read The Book of Enoch for a long time, I'll make sure I do now that you've reminded me, especially after what you've just mentioned

I'm glad you got here before the paid debunkers quoting fixed clinical trials and ignoring the existence of business interests.

Originally posted by Revolution9
reply to post by jameshawkings

 

Welcome to the age of designer vaccines!

Yes, there is one game plan for us in the developed world and another for the developing world for sure.

Who will be the luckiest of the lab rats, who can tell? They who are exterminated or us who are mutated in all kinds of horrible ways.

Have you ever read The Book of Enoch? It refers to a time before the Great Flood. It is handed down through Hebrew Teachings that God had to almost entirely wipe out creation because it had become so infected by experimentation, genetic engineering and mutation. I think, personally, humanity has been in this mess once before.

Frightening but fascinating for those of us who can stomach the reality and be brave.

Thank you, your enlightened mind is so refreshing and much apprecaiated.

edit on 13-6-2011 by jameshawkings because: (no reason given)

You so welcome. Yes, The Book of Enoch is worth a read, not a very long book either.

Thanks again for this thread because it was very valuable to me to explore this vaccine phenomenon a little more.

This is a good point YoungMind92. If people are going to write this off they at least need an explanation to back themselves up

Originally posted by YoungMind92

Originally posted by malcr
Utter nonsense unless you can invent some wacky adjustment to your theory to explain the same drugs in countries where health care is free.

Got any proof of it being nonsense?.

Are you on the Inside

Bring more to the table my friend.

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reply to post by malcr

The drugs are not "free". They are paid for by taxes in those countries, which still leaves you tied to the system.

I think vaccines could be a wonderful tool in the fight against illness. But when they are created by an industry that puts profit at the top of it's priority list and uses that profit to manipulate the government, it is hard to deny the possibility that there is more going on that purely good intentions.

My theory is that vaccines are one tool, among many, for forcing dependence. The concept of a vaccine is counterproductive to the profit goals of big pharma. Why would they want to make people healthy when that would equate to less income in the long term? It does not make sense. People are expected to get the injections though, which makes it a perfect delivery system for creating health problems down the road. That's leads to my theory - that big pharma uses vaccines to cause harm, immediate or long term, in order to force people to depend on additional drugs to remain in at least half way decent health.

Again, it is just a theory. But the fact that people are expected to receive them, and that they are counterproductive, are two major reasons why I simply cannot accept the idea that big pharma would actually give people injections to make them healthy.

Originally posted by John_Q_Llama
I think vaccines could be a wonderful tool in the fight against illness. But when they are created by an industry that puts profit at the top of it's priority list and uses that profit to manipulate the government, it is hard to deny the possibility that there is more going on that purely good intentions.

My theory is that vaccines are one tool, among many, for forcing dependence. The concept of a vaccine is counterproductive to the profit goals of big pharma. Why would they want to make people healthy when that would equate to less income in the long term? It does not make sense. People are expected to get the injections though, which makes it a perfect delivery system for creating health problems down the road. That's leads to my theory - that big pharma uses vaccines to cause harm, immediate or long term, in order to force people to depend on additional drugs to remain in at least half way decent health.

Again, it is just a theory. But the fact that people are expected to receive them, and that they are counterproductive, are two major reasons why I simply cannot accept the idea that big pharma would actually give people injections to make them healthy.

Good post John_Q_Llama

Originally posted by jameshawkings

Originally posted by malcr
Utter nonsense unless you can invent some wacky adjustment to your theory to explain the same drugs in countries where health care is free.

This is a plan that dates back many years, it is unlikely that they would have had knowledge as to the health systems in place in each country, though whoever planned it would have been thinking globally.

Medical research and technology is the same all around the world, hospitals are not permitted to have anything less than up to date equipment.

originally posted by: jameshawkings
Some believe vaccines are to protect us from illness and disease, while others say vaccines are to make us sick and/or reduce our fertility rates. Some say the old people's flu jab is to help finish the aged off or give them Alzheimers, meaning any possible inheritance is instead spent on putting them into care.

There is some truth in all of the above, but...there is ONE REASON more fundamental and significant than any of those. All of the above are just part of the story. The REAL PURPOSE of vaccines is to link us to the monetary system. If we are in good health we can do a pretty good job of living outside the system (if we wish), but once we have been injected with disease (cancers etc) or an auto immune disease (e.g MS) has been initiated and our immune systems have been deprived the opportunity of learning from naturally combating Measles, Mumps, Chicken Pox etc which is known to leave us immune to various cancers. Once we are in that weak state with a couch potato immune system that has also been injected with disease, that is when we are told we need drugs and treatments which we need money to pay for. We then no longer have
the choice to live outside the system, we have to do something which pays these bills. We get taxed on what we earn, we pay more of the money to Pharma, also the Federal Reserve can decide to print money essentially stealing directly from our pockets. When we are outside the system we are not their slaves and they cannot easily take our wealth, but by giving us as many vaccines as possible they make it extremely difficult for anyone to stay outside the system. The vaccines are so as we belong to them.

I don't hear this mentioned very often so I don't believe many people are aware of this, most people know some part of the story, but this is the fundamental reason why we are being pumped full of vaccines. Hence why I've taken the time to post this today.

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The total number of vaccines given has increased vastly since I was a child, and many of these vaccines are of questionable necessity or efficacy (Rotavirus, Varicella (it can actually cause varicella or shingles), Cervarix (no proof at all that it will protect against cervical cancer) Influenza-- efficacy in any one year often as low as 50% or less and utterly no evidence that it will induce herd immunity.

Equally the rate of significant side effects has never been properly evaluated nor has there been any attempt to adequately exclude the increased vaccine load as a cause of the spiralling rates of autism. The limited studies that have been done and are claimed as definitive by the pro-vaccine side apply ONLY to the association between MMR vaccine, thiomersol and autism. Even those studies (metanalyses excluded many research papers that should have been considered.

Then we have the potential neurotoxicity of aluminium a commonly used adjuvant in most vaccines. This has not been systematically studied except for a pathetically small Cochrane Analysis of 21 papers done in 2003 or 4. Aluminium neurotoxicity will be cumulative, and it is believed to be potentiated by any exposure to glyphosate (roundup)- which is often present in trace amounts in food.
I just did this quick search on PubMed and came up with 417 papers on the subject of aluminium and neurotoxicity-- but this concern is not incorporated in to the studies of the safety of vaccines.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Clearly there is some place for vaccines and used in the right place and time they can be very helpful.

The scientists actually working on them are doing so for the right motives, but they are also in something of a "career lock" because of their specialisation.

Now lets get down to the nitty gritty.
1) The vaccines are produced by the same companies that have lied to us and to the FDA, again and again. Remember Merck caused at least 50,000 deaths with Vioxx (which they got past the FDA through proven dishonest means), and that is only the start of that story. However Merck paid out 84.5 billion in damages for that one. The same should have happened to Eli Lilly- another 50,000 deaths attributed to Prozac.
2) The drug companies are all in financial trouble as their base of current patented blockbuster drugs contracts.
3) The drug companies are legally protected from consumer liability laws.
4) The pharmaceutical industry is the biggest single lobby group in Washington - 50% more money spent than the next competitor (fossil fuel, I think).The grateful recipients of all that Pharmaceutical Co largesse can be pretty well relied on to do what is asked of them by their benefactors.
5) The expansion of the vaccine schedule and the addition of so many expensive new vaccines to the schedule has increased the spend on vaccines from $85 per child in the early 1980's to, I understand $2,200 pr child a couple of years ago.

From the point of view of the drug companies: What's not to like?- cradle to grave vaccination and an ever expanding bottom line. Never mind that the profit margin in the pharmaceutical industry exceeds that of any other industry.

Now I have heard all the conspiracy theories about NWO etc, but there is no need to buy in to that stuff. What is going on here is sheer greed and the unstoppable momentum of a research juggernaut that, it seems has nowhere else to go.


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