Whitley Strieber Chimes in On The latest Alien developments

No one could Accuse Strieber of "Hit and Run" Book marketing. Strieber has continued to be vocal about his opinions on the subject of Alien life and UFO's throughout the years, regardless if he has something to sell or not. The latest comments come from a June 2nd Journal, where He gives his two cents on Hawking, false flags, and National geographic among others.

Warnings are appearing all over the internet about a 'false-flag' alien attack that is supposedly going to be faked by parties unknown, presumably the government. Last week, the online prankster group Anonymous was supposed to flood UFO sites with reports of an invasion by triangular craft, but it never materialized due to the fact that we and others were tipped off about it and published warnings. I have always wondered if the visitors might show up in a more obvious way just before or during the early stages of some great planetary catastrophe, and since we're at that point right now, it's worth asking what it might actually be like if they did. I don't agree with uninformed doomsayers like Hawking and the National Geographic Channel. They come at this from the standpoint of an intellectual and cultural establishment that is going to be devastatingly challenged by the appearance of aliens with superior science and technology. In fact, they're going to be undercut almost to irrelevance. Think how Stephen Hawking would feel if somebody came along who could instantly and decisively close all the questions he has spent his lifetime studying? He would feel emasculated, that's how he would feel. It would be devastating. Read the original source: www.unknowncountry.com...

I know there are extreme degrees of opinion on Strieber, as with every aspect of this subject. Personally The Book communion affected me very deeply, in ways That I dont think pure fiction ever could. His opinions on the subject carry weight for me.

Source: www.unknowncountry.com...

reply to post by tasteslikethunder


His book was the first I read on the subject. That and Transformation.

Didn't he at one point speculate that the aliens were actually demons here to torment him for their pleasure and that it might even be a battle for his soul?

He seems to be very confused about his own experiences, and can't even make up his mind.

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Stephen Hawking is uninformed because he thinks that the universe is hostile and impersonal, and expects alien life to follow the basic patterns that we see all known life to follow? This guy just lost ANY chance of convincing me that he knows anything about the possibility of extraterrestrial life visiting us.

I read the article. What he says here is really no different than what he said in his very first foray into the subject in Communion. We're primitive. They're really bright. They're dangerous, but can be really fun if we treat them right.

Meh? Same old same old. The fact is apparently he is NOT having additional experiences and really has not had for some time, so he's kind of stuck in the rut of his own making. He seems to have changed over the years from a very introspective person to one shouting three-letter acronyms and blaming tghem for everything. He's a bit unhinged, not that anyone going through his experiences wouldn't be.

He's a very good fiction writer, but I doubt Stephen Hawking and national Geo would agree with his assessment of them. He's not a psychologist,

But he is a very good fiction writer. Maybe that's all he is.

Originally posted by Q:1984A:1776
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Stephen Hawking is uninformed because he thinks that the universe is hostile and impersonal, and expects alien life to follow the basic patterns that we see all known life to follow? This guy just lost ANY chance of convincing me that he knows anything about the possibility of extraterrestrial life visiting us.

Hawking is basing his conclusion on reports. All evidence and witnesses point to them being hostile whether people heed the warning or not.

A few quotes from the man himself.

"I wondered if I might not be in the grip of demons, if they were not making me suffer for their own purposes, or simply for their enjoyment."
- Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p. 172

"I became entirely given over to extreme dread. The fear was so powerful that it seemed to make my personality completely evaporate... 'Whitley' ceased to exist. What was left was a body and a state of raw fear so great that it swept about me like a thick, suffocating curtain, turning paralysis into a condition that seemed close to death...I died and a wild animal appeared in my place."
- Whitley Strieber, Communion, p. 25-26

"Increasingly I felt as if I were entering a struggle that might even be more than life and death. It might be a struggle for my soul, my essence, or whatever part of me might have reference to the eternal. There are worse things than death, I suspected... so far the word demon had never been spoken among the scientists and doctors who were working with me...Alone at night I worried about the legendary cunning of demons ...At the very least I was going stark, raving mad."
- Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p. 44-45

"I felt an absolutely indescribable sense of menace. It was hell on earth to be there [in the presence of the entities], and yet I couldn't move, couldn't cry out, couldn't get away. I'd lay as still as death, suffering inner agonies. Whatever was there seemed so monstrously ugly, so filthy and dark and sinister. Of course they were demons. They had to be. And they were here and I couldn't get away."
- Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p. 181

"Why were my visitors so secretive, hiding themselves behind my consciousness. I could only conclude that they were using me and did not want me to know why...What if they were dangerous? Then I was terribly dangerous because I was playing a role in acclimatizing people to them."
- Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p. 96
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Talks like a, walks like a......check out the link for some compelling statements from a WIDE variety of researchers.

I have seen a UFO. Daylight - clear blue skies. So I know something is flying around with technology beyond what the average person knows.

I prefer the term "off planet beings". And my pet peeve is thinking in singular - - that all "off planet beings" are the same - - like they are cloned. I believe there are at least several races/cultures of "off planet beings".

The way I look at it is: same as humans might approach a tribe in the Amazon.

We are all human - - but we are not clones. We come from different races - cultures - education - religions - and views on humanity.

Varied ways humans would approach Amazon humans.

1. observe without interference
2. try to make contact - but not interfere with their culture.
3. try to become friendly enough - you can live amongst them as one of them.
4. try to become friendly enough - they will let you show them your way of doing things.
5. try to become friendly enough - that you can help them improve in areas of health etc.
6. try to become friendly enough - that leaders can come back with you and learn how to protect their tribe from modern ways through government protection.
7. try to fake them out that you are friendly - but only interested in what they have you could make money off of.
8. try to fake them out that you are friendly - but really only want to steal their land for commercialism.
9. invade them forcefully - turn them into slaves for your needs.
10. invade them forcefully - take what you want - then destroy their village.
11. invade them forcefully - bring some back to civilization for study.
12. invade them forcefully - kill them all because they are just parasites with no redeeming value.

etc etc etc etc

There is no One Fits All.

whitney streber is telling the truth in his book "holy communion", he was abducted by a joint research team made up of greys and blue ones

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Strieber needs to be taken with a few grains of salt. He was a fiction writer first. He and a co-author had a fair response to their book War Day that was a SHTF book. I also have a mystery paperback of his that gets a bit overboard with a lesbian doctor doing an examination of an attractive patient. Then his UFO experiences happened--I really do believe--and set him on that track for life. I have his earlier books and I find some validity within them.

I also know that at one point he claimed to be at the famous University of Texas clock tower shooting by Whitman way back when. Someone pointed out to him that he could not have been there and he confessed that, indeed, he wasn't but, sort of was by a mental connection he had with the event and that confused him into thinking he was. Like Art Bell, Nooney and others, he is an entertainer and makes his living that way. The goal is to keep you on the edge of your chair, listening and their keeping their jobs in the business.

As I've said before, no harm done if they increase the span of the concept of UFOs even it gets a bit iffy on the fringes.

Originally posted by prophecy4
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His book was the first I read on the subject. That and Transformation.

Didn't he at one point speculate that the aliens were actually demons here to torment him for their pleasure and that it might even be a battle for his soul?

He seems to be very confused about his own experiences, and can't even make up his mind.

I never considered Strieber as nothing more than popular novelist. But it has to be understood that the title of his book "COMMUNION" is based on a catholic ritual. He is a religious person which explains his use of words such as demons, soul, etc., for no logical, reasoning person accepts demons, evil or soul as anything but religious thinking.

But as to the thread Whitley has no information on anything but human events. Only believers pay any attention to his ramblings. I'm not a believer.

Well whatever Whitley "saw", I believe he believes it. It either lends proof to the "aliens are angels and demons" theory, or it lends proof to the "aliens are aliens theory". I say this because what he describes is repeated over and over under hypnosis by complete strangers. I'm not saying that it may not be some form of psychosis, But when you have hundreds of unrelated people claiming almost identical scenarios, it moves away from the "handful of crazy lunatics" theory, and into something else.

I consider myself to have a pretty good Bullsnap detector, I generally have absolutely no patience for fiction. when Communion first came out I picked it up on one of those "books on tape" packages. The first and only time I have ever felt what its like to literally be frozen in fear. I had to scream for someone to take off the headphones as I lay in bed at night listening.

I actually came across and read Transformation first the book that he wrote after Communion;Strieber went on to say in Transformation that these visitors he calls them seemed to indicate to him that there was many inadequacies in Communion;I read Transformation in about to nights, i could not put the book down, my first and second night sleeping after reading Transformation was the most intense and profound dreaming i have every had;The first night i fell asleep after reading Transformation and still can vividly still recall dreaming about the person on the front cover the book,how i was in my back yard with a UFO hovering over my house,beings rushing up to me and doing something top the back of my head,lights coming at me in all directions, being told not to be afraid and in all of this i had a distinct feeling that they meant me no harm and where in fact play full but stern and serious at the same time;

This brings me to a very important point and one i feel gives a lot of weight to these visitors being real in the sense that they can occupy our dimensions,( and apart from the physical plane),the reason is i have had a few successful attempts at ASTRAL PROJECTION and believe me you are aware when you have one as you are aware right now reading this in the waking conscious;Astral projection is not the same as a very vivid dream believe me it is a real realty with its own laws; Striber described in Transformation how these visitors enticed a astral projection in him and gave him a glimpse in to another realty out side the waking conscious or physical reality;

These visitors are real and i believe like Whitley they have something to do with our evolution and have manipulated us at different periods in out evolutionary history, they know us pretty damn well i take the very seriously for they offer a whole new perception and reality that is well beyond the limitations of the five senses of this world; Whitley has written other books and has i believe touched on occult knowledge that i believe is necessary to to fully understand where he and these visitors are coming from and the reality they are trying to awake in all of us, times ahead are getting hairy so be prepared for a stormy ride;

I really haven't researched Strieber, partly because of an overwhelming feeling that he is a fraud, a fake, a liar. I find it unlikely that an abductee is such a well written author, he is most likely just an author who loves attention and money. He also looks like a liar everytime he opens his mouth, so yes I would bet money that he is full of it.

I'm still on the fence with this guy. everything about him screams BS. but in his books there is certain things he nails on the head. even translated it over well to his movie. if he didn't go through this he wouldn't of picked up on the subtle, whimsical, yet horrifying nature of these creatures.

I always thought people of this topic were loons. then it happened to me, I didn't know wtf was going on, I don't know if they are demons or are from zeta whatever. but when I saw the movie afterwards I felt like I wanted to die.
I wonder if his story isn't based off something relayed to him that happened to someone else.

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i just watched communion the other day, his story was interesting i will admitt. i have senn striber in past ufo documentaies he seems to be knowledgeable on ufos

Originally posted by The Shrike

Originally posted by prophecy4
reply to post by tasteslikethunder

 

His book was the first I read on the subject. That and Transformation.

Didn't he at one point speculate that the aliens were actually demons here to torment him for their pleasure and that it might even be a battle for his soul?

He seems to be very confused about his own experiences, and can't even make up his mind.

I never considered Strieber as nothing more than popular novelist. But it has to be understood that the title of his book "COMMUNION" is based on a catholic ritual. He is a religious person which explains his use of words such as demons, soul, etc., for no logical, reasoning person accepts demons, evil or soul as anything but religious thinking.

But as to the thread Whitley has no information on anything but human events. Only believers pay any attention to his ramblings. I'm not a believer.

He was going to call that book "BODY TERRORS" due to the sheer weight of the fear that was affecting him not only mentally but physically , it was one of his visitors that said he should call the book "COMMUNION" "not body terrors" as they felt it would scare people;The title communion refers to the communion he had and felt with his visitors, his experiences with them, it had no religious meanings in that book;