Is America the only place with crappy jobs?

Since all the jobs have been outsourced to either machines or immigrants, the service sector has taken prominence over the country. When people have to service others and deal with often difficult customers, do they return the favor by acting like a prick when they go out? This seems to be the pattern here because if you are abused during work you might start believing that it is normal to be treated that way. Soon enough, everybody starts accepting #ty jobs as the norm and give a hard time on or off the job. Prove me wrong by giving examples of working in another country and compare the two experiences.


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Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
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But that's the way to describe it the US has one of the worst jobs in the world

Child soldiers, sexual slavery,conscripted militia,human experimentation,Sharia law,tribal life in the desert,warfare of any kind,living as a normal citizen in North Korea, starving to death,being lower class in any non western country,farming,ranching working in a hospice,I could go on but I think you just need to make yourself happy without outside input,screw em,it's your life.
You just have to do a lot of things you won't like.

I don't know, I transcribe from home and I also make money on the side as a graphic artist. Not too crappy. I've never worked outside of the US though, so maybe transcribing and digital design are better somewhere else. I guess Sh*ty is a subjective term.

It depends what you classify as a '#ty' job. Do you mean working in customer service? I have done that before, working in financial institutions, and I would definitely say I much prefer the industry I'm in now, which is Agriculture. I work on a farm, a mushroom farm actually, and it's one of the best jobs I've ever had. I've been in banking, retail, and hospitality, and agriculture is by far my favourite.

I would never go as far to say that the US has the worst jobs.

The reason they outsource manufacturing jobs is because in the places those jobs go, they don't pay them much, or treat them well.

It's not like a nice union factory job goes overseas to other people working a nice union job. It goes overseas to people working in horrible conditions for next to nothing for pay.

Employment in America is going down the drain, but it's still a lot better than most places in the world. Not saying that makes it OK, we need more jobs, and better jobs, but we aren't suffering nearly as bad as many, many other places.

Originally posted by 7thcavtrooper
Child soldiers, sexual slavery,conscripted militia,human experimentation,Sharia law,tribal life in the desert,warfare of any kind,living as a normal citizen in North Korea, starving to death,being lower class in any non western country,farming,ranching working in a hospice,I could go on but I think you just need to make yourself happy without outside input,screw em,it's your life.
You just have to do a lot of things you won't like.

i can't really say comparison of the United States to other countries is really justified here. Sure in some extreme cases, the working place is horrible. But it is here too. Who's to say this manufacturing and service industry is any good in these extremes? It is extreme here in the united states, and yes they are #ty jobs. Working a job here is doing a lot of things i don't like. In all workforces there is a stress on the physical and mental factor of the person. Sure in some jobs there aren't, but in some jobs in these other countries where these horrible slave working shops are set up, there's comfortability. But the slave shops are here in the United States as well, just in a different form or front. Ask anyone who works in the service/entry level job if they like their job and if they would have this job if they didn't need money. I know what they'll tell me. What do you think?

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Who doesn't have a s**tty job though? Think about it, everybdoy from the president to a burger king fry cook has a TERRIBLE job.

President: to be a tool and puppet paid millions of dollars to have his image tarnished while his version of Gepetto is nowhere to be found.

Marketing Exec: To help a company (I say help because you're only getting paid .001% of their profit) promote itself, brainwash the masses, and rape people of their money.

Burger King Fry Cook: To poison the masses.

All jobs are f***ed up. If the ELITE were gone, then jobs would mean something because peoples JOBS would be them implementing their educations, and contributing their talents to the better of society. It's all about stupid f***in money these days. So YES, and NO, America has s**tty jobs, but we aren't the only ones.

Having worked service in many way shapes or form,yes it is crappy in many ways from the corporate negative reinforcement to irritating rules.From screwed up hours to very uncomfortable clothing.
You have to do all that and figure out how to do what you like and go for it.

This is an interesting post. I was just reading an article in the local paper written by Conrad Black (Why America is Suffering), about the long term prognosis of the economy in the US. What struck me half-way through was when he commented that we don't really produce anything anymore in North America.

I quote: "Scores of millions of lower-paid jobs were outsourced to cheap-labour countries, while perhaps 20 million unskilled workers were allowed into the country illegally, not to build the alarm clocks and steam irons that now came from China, but to pick lettuce and shine shoes...The US economy in 2008 had reached 1 trillion in legal fees, 1 trillion in consulting fees and over 2 trillion in financial transactions and facilitator fees....The US is paying a heavy price for having too many people that do not produce added value."

We don't have jobs that are beneficial to society or help us grow. We have low end McJob's and paper pushing jobs. To quote another source, however, if your read "Why your world is going to get a whole lot smaller" by Jeff Rubin, this may change in the next 25 years due to oil prices, and we will go back to the way things were.

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I can you prove you wrong by simply telling you that I have worked in the Service Industry, I know many other who have or still do work in the Service Industry and act nothing like what you describe. If anything, the exact opposite has happened.

People who work for tips are usually the best tippers. Why? Cause they know what it is to depend on tips. Same principal applies to what you are asking. People who are in the Service Industry know what other people who are doing the same type of work have to deal with. They know it is not always easy and for the most part, they sympathize.

Certain working environments, such as retail, tend to attract some truly awful people. The work is easy compared to slaving down a mine all day, for instance. This breeds a culture of socialisation rather than labour. People become inherently bored with what they're doing, and cannot avoid the deep-seated knowledge that their work is ultimately quite pointless to them personally aside from the necessary money. So they will turn on each other like dogs, and these workplaces become echoes of a schoolyard, where social cliques, heirarchy and bullying are the norm.

I've worked in retail as a shop assistant before, earning AUD$23 per hour and AUD$31.50 on Sundays and public holidays, which wasn't bad pay considering I was just an 18 year old student at the bottom of the rank. However this job was one of the worst I've had. There was no challenge, my coworkers were arseholes, and so on. It was very easy and comfortable, yet I hated it. I preferred by far working in a dog kennel/cattery and race horse stables, despite very low pay, working 7 days a week starting at around 5am. I loved that job because the people, the culture of the place, was so much more genuine, more honest.

I use this example to say that it is not the jobs themselves that are terrible as such, it is more the culture of Western workplaces that is the problem. Almost any job can be quite alright if the culture within is good. This is just not the case mostly.

I work in the service industry, and yes some people can be hard to deal with, but for the most part you get what you put into it.

I tend to have a positive, patient attitude when either working or being served by someone else. My positive attitude usually changes their demeanor. My employees mirror my attitude, so keeping it positive is the only way to go.

That being said, I don't think that many people are rude or whatnot. Sometimes our expectations are too high, sometimes we are rude and we get what we deserve in return. So I like to remember that what you give is what you get.

Edit to add: People take crappy jobs because they need the money. Nothing more simple than that.