A suggestion to taking back YOUR America!!!

This could of gone int he NWO section too, or the 9/11 section. But here it is in this section.

This will sound like a joke to some people but I assure you I am DEADLY serious about this.

The people on ATS talk about taking back America. Taking back their freedom and taking back their lives. Then there is only one thing you can really do which will strike FEAR into the NWO and the White House.

It is not attack police, it is not protest on the streets where you face beatings, it is not writing silly letters to senators and mayors etc, it is not coming on forums and ranting.

There is one simple thing that will knock the keel off this boat. And it simply revolves around the biggest brainwashing scam the US has over its people. And that is THE NATIONAL ANTHEM and PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

If no one at school pledged their allegiance, if no one at games pledged their allegiance and no one sang their National Anthem at ball games it would send a message of pure FEAR into those who rule over you in the States. The whole country stops this unified robotic behavior till you have won your battle. And the battle, YOU shall win will be all the more important for the National Anthem and Pledge. It will then mean something.

By refusing to sing and pledge you will be STATING that your support for TPTB is not welcome. IS not tolerated anymore.


Some will argue that when people pledge their Allegiance and sing the National Anthem it is for America and not for the people who run it.

However, they use that solidarity to instill fear. "WE AMERICANS" is a the phrase they use, so if anyone speaks out they are deemed "unAmerican"

Well now you should turn the tables and not pledge and not Sing until these people are gone from POWER. This is the greatest thing you can do to fight the people who are destroying "the land of the free".


There is NO research from me into this but it is simple. And simple is BEST. Take away their power over you and they will crumble like a 100 year old turd.



This is the sort of effect that would be heard round the WORLD. It would be life changing!

reply to post by testtubebaby


While you WILL be flamed and attacked ad nauseum, I applaud your effort.

It is doing something!

To currently pledge your allegiance to the current United States of America, is to pledge your support to the corporate/elitist agenda that is everything thats wrong in the world today.

A true American will get what you are saying, and agree that we have to get back to what our founding fathers held true, Civil Disobedience to enact change.

I always hear about you taking back YOUR America -- just how far do you intend to take back MY America. From the bills introduced in the last few months I would say you are back as far as the 1960s but you keep talking about taking it back to the early 1800s. Not real happy about that.

reply to post by testtubebaby


Well its as good a place as any to start, there would have to be more than this to have any real effect.
Good luck reprogramming the robots!

They wouldn't care as long as people turned on their smart phones and played video games right after.
The only thing that will strike fear in the elite is Americans no longer being the crackhead codependant on their junk. If we all got jobs overseas which btw are tax exempt, that would get their attention. If there was no one here to arrest, that would get their attention. No one here to fill their quotas - ensuring their Wall Street motto of "your company must make money at all cost" methology fails.
When Bill Gates, the Rockefellers and Duponts are begging in the streets of NYC, we will then be America again.
Peace!

Ahhhh.....no,the NWO hates American patriotism and are trying to kill it.We constitute a threat to their plans because of our American ingrained sovereignty.The pledge the flag, all that sort of thing, is for the people. It is a declaration of us all here in America.
What you said was infuriating to many of your military.That would be why some are,unfortunately, about to jump you.

I'm not American myself (I'm from Australia), but from what I know of your country, and of your constitution, neither the Pledge nor the Anthem are the issue. The real problem, as I see it, is the fact that the country that the pledge and the anthem refer to no longer exists.

"America: the land of the free and the home of the brave". Not so much?
This is a country whose freedoms are constantly being reigned in by Obamocracy... net neutrality, constant pressure on dissident voices, restrictions of freedom across the country. "Home of the brave"? Sending your men, women and children to diverse wars in different places, and for what purpose? For so long, I supported the wars the US engaged in; Iraq, even Afghanistan to a degree... yet now, we have Libya - and why? Did world patience run out on Ghadafi? I don't think it's that simple. Why has the US gone to war against Libya, but not Syria? The bloodshed in Syria is far greater, the importance and impact of that state much more far reaching than Libya ever was.

So what is the real issue here? The pledge? The anthem? Or the fact that the country embodied in those things no longer exists? When you pledge, what are you pledging allegiance to?

Unfortunately I think it's reached the point where no amount of civil disobedience is going to help. The US is just months away from collapse. A tanking economy, on the brink of losing its reserve currency status. Obama considering another stimulus, 14.4 TRILLION dollars in debt, with no end in sight, millions homeless, 48% true jobless rate, massive numbers on food stamps and other government assistance...

It's time.

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I totally agree however so many ARE brainwashed that they will try and take a mob menality approach against this "non american". Most people like myself are gracious for the men and women risking their lives, but one would look non supportive of the troops if they did not stand and take off their hat trust me I have done it and dealt with the reprocussions of those actions. Just my opinion anyway

if titor (john haberman) had only said revolution instead of civil war, he'd be a household name

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reply to post by spyder550


I think the OP is talking about taking "Your America" back, as in "We the People"s America as opposed to the current United Corporations of America.

The Us vs Them paradigm, is not Dem vs Rep, Left vs Right, it's the Citizens vs the Corporations.

Taking the country back from the Corporatocracy it has become, not taking it back in time to the 1800's or 1960's.

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Honestly, that sounds like an excellent idea. We walk around waving flags and singing songs as if our country is STILL number one, when in reality, we've lost that position.

Why pledge allegiance to a country that feel like it can enter any country it see's fit for capital gain? A country that LIES to its own people..

S&F to you from me.

God bless

really how to take back american from people who arent american

nor do they understand the first thing about what it means to be an american.

the pledge and national anthemn.

if people wanna take back american stop listening to foreigners


understand the words to that smiple message from a simple pledge

i pledge alligance to flag of the united states of america

simple means respect the high symbol of the united states and its united people instead of burning it

and to the republic for which it stands

not a democracy of mob rub that tramples the rights of whoever gets in the way of political agendas and selfness
as this country was founded as A REPUBLIC which means the protection of large and small .

one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all

which means we are americans first and foremost no rich no poor no right no left no straight no gay no color no creed.

the under god part which seems to upset so many folks was the grantor of every right in this country and not the end all be all of government.



its a simple message that its not taught anymore and shunned publically for a reason.

if a people who does know what they are they are easier to manipulate.

personally i find the op offensive and some of the posts so far

I don't think you should receive any crap for making this thread. You are absolutely correct. I just finished posting in another thread about how protests and letters are simply means to make citizens feel empowered, when in reality the only way they will work is if a politician has a change of heart.

What you are proposing is simple, but beautifully simple, and is one of the best answers, if not the best, to the question of what the first steps should be in the process of rescuing America from the prison of corporate greed and corruption. The only problem is, and this makes me sort of angry, that the majority of the people will not be on board.

They are the ones who choose not to question anything, and believe everything they are told by their government. All one has to do is look back through the short annals of US history to see that the government lies all the time...It's just that that stuff doesn't usually make the news.

For any plan to succeed it must be thorough, including different tactics and a lot, I mean a whole lot, of people. What you are proposing, coupled with protests, letter-writing, phone calls, etc, is the multi-pronged approach that we need to strike fear into the government. We need to remind every single politician that they work for us, and that we are unhappy. Well, at least some of us are unhappy. Too many are content to just go with the flow. We need action, but more importantly, I will say again we need a cohesive and well thought out plan. I really love your idea, and wholeheartedly believe it should be another tactic in the overall strategy to change America.

I have a better solution... stop paying taxes! Just stop funding this madness! They cant process us all for tax evasion. Besides there is no law that requires you to pay Federal taxes.

I hate to tell you, but our voices have no power anymore. Sorry to say, but overthrowing the government is what the founding fathers said should happen whenever we are being oppressed. That's what our constitution was specifically designed for. It was designed to keep the choices into the hands of the people. NOT THE POLITICIANS. AND NOT THE SUPER RICH BANKERS. It was also designed to keep the government from being tyrants. The government is now A TYRANT! And the people of America just won't wake up! The founding fathers tried their best to balance our system. And they did have it balanced. But those stupid bankers came along and screwed up our system, to where they decide what happens. How does that make you feel that you have no voice in this country? How does it feel to fear the government, and not be able to have freedom of speech?

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

The good thing is, is that the government still fears the people! They fear us because they know every America owns at least one firearm, that's why they haven't completely enslaved us! Call me a terrorist or whatever you want.. cause that's what they seem to do to people who care for this country's constitution and for freedom. The elite use terrorism to squash all resistance against them. When Bush signed the patriot act into law, he signed away your rights as an American. When Obama just renewed the patriot act, he renewed you not having anymore rights!

Originally posted by Creedo
I have a better solution... stop paying taxes! Just stop funding this madness! They cant process us all for tax evasion. Besides there is no law that requires you to pay Federal taxes.

Taxing is ILLEGAL. Just read the Amendments!

We the people are the labor force. We serve, feed and maintain the standards of luxury the our controllers demand for themselves. 'Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar'. What actually belongs to Caesar? Money. Throw it back at them and say to them,'Here, eat that, dress yourselves in that, build your mansions and palaces out of that! They have the power because we give it to them, it is that simple.

Originally posted by Juran
We the people are the labor force. We serve, feed and maintain the standards of luxury the our controllers demand for themselves. 'Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar'. What actually belongs to Caesar? Money. Throw it back at them and say to them,'Here, eat that, dress yourselves in that, build your mansions and palaces out of that! They have the power because we give it to them, it is that simple.

EXACTLY! We give them the power they have. Without us, they would have NOTHING. The truth is coming out. More and more people are finding out what's going on. I think the Illuminati want a revolution here. That's just what my research indicates. The Illuminati want revolutions all over the world. Look at the middle east, look at Europe! Those events have been carefully orchestrated from behind the scenes by the super rich bankers.

Originally posted by 7thcavtrooper
Ahhhh.....no,the NWO hates American patriotism and are trying to kill it.We constitute a threat to their plans because of our American ingrained sovereignty.The pledge the flag, all that sort of thing, is for the people. It is a declaration of us all here in America.
What you said was infuriating to many of your military.That would be why some are,unfortunately, about to jump you.

If you recognize that 'american patriotism' is nothing more than a facade to perpetuate corporate profits and hegemony around the world, stealing resources from the global poor to enrich themselves.

reply to post by My.mind.is.mine

Honestly, that sounds like an excellent idea. We walk around waving flags and singing songs as if our country is STILL number one, when in reality, we've lost that position.

I dont think the the US has lost that position so much as it was pulled from them by the greedy, corrupt and the useless.

I imagine there are still some really great place where corruption has not found its way in and the NWO is closing in on those places.

I just think that the NWO would be taken-a-back if everyone stopped doing things the way they want.

IF Americans take back America then the rest of the world can follow suit.

America is the NWO foothold on the world. We need to start there.