Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn (Study)

In that case people against pedophilia must be closet pedos themselves or they wouldn't have any "hateful" opinions either.

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Acceptance? How is banding together in such a display asking for acceptance? If anything it refects an us vs. them type mentality.

I have always thought that homosexuaity was a mental illness of sorts. Please understand that I believe everyone has some kind of mental illness; sexual or otherwise so that alone is not a big deal. Homosexuality also tends not to cause harm to innocent victims so again not a big deal. Do what you want.

I do have a big problem when you group together to advertise your "sickness". To me it is like a bunch of alcoholics
or racists banding together and asking us to accept their behavior. It would seem to me that those that do so are affected a bit more mentally than others. I bet if you showed an opposite sex gay porno at these marches you would have abunch of tent poles and puddles materialize out of no where. Me think the gay pride marchers protest a litte too heavily.

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux

Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood

Originally posted by Helious
More agenda pushing nonsense. Who is funding this study I wonder and why exactly is it being done? Complete rubbish in my opinion.

Yet here you are pushing an agenda that has actually existed for more than 4000 years

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How about this agenda? I do not care who you bugger. I refuse to judge your character by your sexual orientation, and refuse to be told that I have to judge you by your sexual orientation. If homosexuals want to wake up each morning and identify themselves by who they have sex with, this is their business, it is just none of mine. I don't want to be lectured about how some group has been harmed. I am concerned with the individual rights of all people, and their sexual orientation neither diminishes those rights, nor does it give them special privilege above and beyond the rights of other individuals.

There is no such thing as "gay rights" any more than there is such a thing as "woman's rights", or "minority rights". There are only rights, and if it is a right, it belongs to everyone on an individual basis, is not granted by government but exists as an unalienable natural phenomenon, and any "legal rights" often translated into "civil rights" do not have any lawful authority to diminish the natural rights of all people.

A gay person got beat up for being gay, you say? That person's individual right was violated, not because he was gay, but because he is. Cogito ergo sum. It matters not who is buggering who, and sexual politics belongs in the bedroom. Any gay person who agrees with this is someone I can align myself with, not because they are gay, but because they understand the root cause of freedom. Any gay person who disagrees with my arguments, I will not align myself with them, and it will have nothing at all to do with their sexual orientation, and everything to do with their politics.

Honestly, thats pretty much /thread. Everything he said is the absolute truth. Most here are not against you because of your sexual orientation only against the notion that you deserve any rights or consideration above those that all others have, those being.... Human rights. Sexual preference does not entitle special acknowledgment.

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I'm not sure where your little rant came from, actually.

From your assertion that a 4000 year old agenda exists. I offered up an agenda worthy of respect, and while you began your reply by claiming that you agree with what I posted, it didn't take you to long at all - the very next sentence in fact - to begin dismissing my post.

It's not like "the gays" are the ones who tried to make sexual orientation some sort of competition.

Don't kid yourself, the rational men have no problem at all with other men taking themselves out of the competition by being gay - or if you will, they have no problem with nature taking some men out of the competition for the pursuit of women, but for heterosexual men, that competition undeniably exists, and I would imagine it is just the same for men between men. You can pretend that the "gay movement" is a non competitive movement all you want, that pretense will not make it so.

They're just the ones that have to have rocks chucked at them, insults hurled, denied financial benefits for their families, and kill themselves out of a lack of social acceptance. Finding out why this is happening is not okay, though, apparently, because they're "rubbing it in your face"? That's really bloody tragic, kids; real tragic.

Having rocks chucked at them, insults hurled, and suicidal tendencies is not the sole province of gay people, and it is insulting to rational people when gay people insist on demanding more attention than is deserved simply because their victimization is "special". I purposely left out the "denied financial benefits" claim because I want to speak to that on its own merit, or lack thereof.

If the gay movement had a brain in its collective body, instead of whining about a denial of "benefits" because of a denial of marriage licenses, that movement would have used their collective voice to speak to the rational, and ask the very valid question of why it is that people in general, heterosexual and homosexual alike are asking the state for permission to get married.

Instead of protesting poutily for the privilege of licensing, of which their foundational argument for such a thing lies in the "benefits" argument, and primarily "benefits" granted by the IRS, this movement that pretends to be all about "EQUALITY", would be making the salient points that no person need permission to marry another, and in terms of employment benefits, all people have the right to contract.

What this means in its simplest terms is that heterosexuals do not need marriage licenses, nor do gay people. That churches have gone along with this licensing scheme speaks volumes to the corruption of religious institutions, but make no mistake about it, that corruption is in alliance with government, and when a church insists that a couple produce a marriage license before they will marry them, this vaunted "separation of church and state" gets tossed out the window in favor of big government. What this means in its simplest terms is that a persons sexual orientation has nothing at all to do with their skill at making contracts. Smart people make contracts with other people where a meeting of the minds is clear, and if one does not exist, smart people do not make that contract.

Alas, this is not what the gay movement did, and instead, like sacrificial lambs to the alter, the movement offers up homosexuality as helpless automatons incapable of distinguishing themselves from their sexual urges.

What? Sex with children is sex with children. Its called pedophelia. Its not str8 and not gay. Its sex with children.
(there was supposed to be a quote above that to that one guy,lol)

Originally posted by JustinSee
What? Sex with children is sex with children. Its called pedophelia. Its not str8 and not gay. Its sex with children.
(there was supposed to be a quote above that to that one guy,lol)

That is correct. And the fact that males often molest boys - - has more to do with availability then anything else.

Priests - male camp counselors - boy scout leaders - etc - - - - have access to boys. Therefore the statistics will show males molesting boys. Since girls are now allowed to be Alter Girls - - there have been cases of sexual abuse on girls.

Female pedophiles - - might be different in that women tend to nurture - rather then straight sex. Women in prison tend to create families - - rather then gangs. So a female pedophile might try to control a female child - rather then actually sexually molest the child.

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Ok. Vulgar

1. characterized by ignorance of or lack of good breeding or taste: vulgar ostentation. 2. indecent; obscene; lewd: a vulgar work; a vulgar gesture. 3. crude; coarse; unrefined: a vulgar peasant.

Obscene

ob·scene [uhb-seen] Show IPA –adjective 1. offensive to morality or decency; indecent; depraved: obscene language. 2. causing uncontrolled sexual desire. 3. abominable; disgusting; repulsive.

It amazes me that these words are only EVER applied to subjects regarding sexuality on ATS and nothing else, did you notice that neither of these definitions mention the word homosexuality but somehow as soon as the subject of homosexuality comes up on these boards then warning start getting tossed around like confetti, almost like the very subject of homosexuality on ATS is somehow considered obscene.

Every day on this board people discuss war and mass murder, they fly their proud colors at being a sniper or someone that is ready to kill in an apocalyptic scenario without a single warning or mod intervention.

Yes this is a subject that is suitable only for adults to discuss, but then again I would think that, "how to choose my first hand gun" is also a fairly "adult topic" and yet no one ever gets warned for those types of threads
.
If we are going by the dictionary definition of the word vulgar then half of the comments on ATS would qualify

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by JustinSee
What? Sex with children is sex with children. Its called pedophelia. Its not str8 and not gay. Its sex with children.
(there was supposed to be a quote above that to that one guy,lol)

That is correct. And the fact that males often molest boys - - has more to do with availability then anything else.

Priests - male camp counselors - boy scout leaders - etc - - - - have access to boys. Therefore the statistics will show males molesting boys. Since girls are now allowed to be Alter Girls - - there have been cases of sexual abuse on girls.

Female pedophiles - - might be different in that women tend to nurture - rather then straight sex. Women in prison tend to create families - - rather then gangs. So a female pedophile might try to control a female child - rather then actually sexually molest the child.

lmao, all girl's club mentality!

The truth is not much is known about female pedophiles because it is often covered up by police and prosecutors. In fact 86% of the time police and prosecutors refuse to press charges against women who molest/rape.
And look up how the Department of Justice is ignoring a study that show that women commit like 90%+ of the sexual offenses against males in the juvenile system.

Secondly "women form families in jail" is BS. They might call it a family but it is very much a gang.

Thirdly and to your first point, they are GAY! Or bisexual. In Latin America and a few other cultures your only gay if your on the receiving end. But in our culture aka America, you are a homo if you do sexual things with a person of the same gender regardless of age.

www.democracyforums.com...
www.freerepublic.com...

The whole "homo's can't be pedo's" idiocy started because: en.wikipedia.org...

The links between Homosexual supremacist's and pedophiles is deep. Look at the trouble Obama had with his one education Czar hat had a pro-gay, anti-religion, pro-pedophilia agenda:

www.foxnews.com...

Originally posted by korathin
The truth is not much is known about female pedophiles because it is often covered up by police and prosecutors. In fact 86% of the time police and prosecutors refuse to press charges against women who molest/rape.

Oh Gawd - - its the anti-woman - - - poor men - - - laws are unfair to men - - blah blah blah.

Since I am female - - I couldn't possibly say anything of value.

I'm just out to persecute men.

We've been down this road before and you never change your tune.

However - I may not have been completely clear.

I was specifically referring to women in a group situation such as Girl scouts. I've experienced these women showing favoritism to one or two girls - - but don't feel women take advantage of this type situation - the way men have.

I am not saying female pedophiles are not as predatory as males.

There is a double standard when it comes to teenage boys and sex. A teenage boy having sex with a woman is less likely to be reported - - because many seem to think its acceptable.

Back on topic.

It does seem there have been quite a few public homophobic men - - - discovered to be closeted gays.

How is this a social issue or civil unrest?

Seriously, "anxiety to enhance arousal and erection,' and so it is also possible that 'a response to homosexual stimuli? . Really!?? we should talk about it herewww.abovetopsecret.com...

thank you.

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Being gay I couldn't agree with you more. It is not about my "gay rights" but my human rights! Thats all I want, the right to do what "comes naturally" without worrying whether I am going to be bashed or have my cars windows smashed etc, etc, etc, just because of something I do when I am in my own bedroom, in my own home! I don't have a problem with straight people and I am forced to mix with them all day everyday, I also don't go around with limp wrists and pink hair.....not that I have a problem with pink hair, but to each his own! Live and let live!

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by korathin
The truth is not much is known about female pedophiles because it is often covered up by police and prosecutors. In fact 86% of the time police and prosecutors refuse to press charges against women who molest/rape.

Oh Gawd - - its the anti-woman - - - poor men - - - laws are unfair to men - - blah blah blah.

Since I am female - - I couldn't possibly say anything of value.

I'm just out to persecute men.

We've been down this road before and you never change your tune.

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If I am wrong point it out. I am guessing your just mad because I blew up your men=bad, women= good rhetoric in regards to jail and what not. And your right I will never change my tune because your just another point in space/time to me. If I find fault with what you say then I find fault.

The more telling thing is that you don't have any rebuttal at all other than shaming language. Which means you admit that your wrong, but because of personnel selfishness and chauvinism you can't jump the distance.

And just because you have an inny instead of an outy doesn't mean I am going to lower the bar.You have to prove me wrong. And if you think you have inherent worth because of your gender(that the basis of your gender entitles you to certain privileges etc), you need to take a cold shower to wake up.

Here is the article about the 86% figure that so bruised your ego:
www.canadiancrc.com...



bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov...

The older I get, the more I come to believe that there is no such thing as hetero- or homo-sexuality.
Rather, just varying degrees of bi-sexuality enshrined in societal and stereotypical expectations imposed through external and internal pressure.

Also, stereotypes mean less and less each passing day.

Speaking of stereotypes, I love how any topic in any way related to homosexuality somehow immediately devolves into an argument about pedophilia.
Stay classy, ATS.

I am reminded of a news story I heard a couple years back. Some guy who has been a Major anti gay activist for 30 years, ended up getting caught in some homosexual affair.... Ruined his career as an anti gay activist I think.

It makes me wonder.... If he who speaks louder than most, against a certain thing, if perhaps they have a secret interest....

Who knows.

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
I am reminded of a news story I heard a couple years back. Some guy who has been a Major anti gay activist for 30 years, ended up getting caught in some homosexual affair.... Ruined his career as an anti gay activist I think.

It makes me wonder.... If he who speaks louder than most, against a certain thing, if perhaps they have a secret interest....

Who knows.

Your sociopathy knows no bounds. There might be some truth to it. Most of those "outed", tended to persecute gay's rather then trying to get them back into the closet.