Old man disrespects Young guy and calls him a typical black punk

Originally posted by Qwenn
This seems to be more of an age thing than racist, I can't believe how anyone can support this kind of behaviour, young people today, think it is acceptable to harrass and bully old people, it shows by the support you have had from other posters. Let's see how acceptable you find it when you are an OAP and some 14 year old punk trash kid starts this stuff out on you !

Are you serious? It may be the other way around. If I were an old ass person, and some young kid had his kid on my yard I would probably act my age and go outside and politely start conversation and maybe ask if he lived in the neighborhood, maybe other questions to get a feel on if the kid was purposely going the route he was to stir something up. Regardless of intent I would make sure that I asked him, not TOLD him, to please not walk his dog through my yard (Your keeping the conversation and encounter positive by not demanding but asking and the kid is much more likely to respond in the way that favors what you want). Respect is a two way street but is also something that is earned between two people and isn't based on age, as we can see here age didn't help in maturity based on how the older gentleman handled himself. This kid simply asked the guy if he was the guy who flipped him off (knowing that he was). He was polite and rightfully wanted to know why the guy felt the extreme need to be rude and disrespectful by flipping him off. Then the older guy shows even more reasons to respect him by using racial/age stereotypes to label him. The kid still remained calm even after the comments directed towards him.

Another stance that the older guy took was that he took it upon himself to speak for his neighbors property and that he didn't want to see him not only on his but his neighbors property as well. The older guy may have been able to get the kinds of results he was looking for had he not portrayed himself in such a manner. Regardless of how he handled himself when it comes to his property he can put it any way he wants to the kid and he needs to respect the boundary, but karma is a bitch. Once the older guy was too frustrated and initiated physical contact, telling the kid to leave when it isn't his property and yet still the kid takes a minute before he blows his top. They both were in the wrong in regards to certain things but I feel that the kid handled himself better than the older guy did. He made himself look bitter, rude and self indulgent.

The feeling of being entitled and shown respect based on your age gap shows nothing more than a true mental gap. People should be respectful of each other on an equal basis when you don't know much about each other and have had minimal interaction between the two. The older guy should be the example of maturity and how to handle a situation but instead he showed real mental weakness.

The old man didn't say anything until the 'young negro' decided to run his mouth. Notice how they decided to whip out the camera to record the 'event'...You don't know what went on before this happened. Obviously the man was protecting his property. I would have done the same damn thing if someone decided to let their dog # in my yard. The one thing the old man did wrong was to push the young negro.. there he was wrong. But for the rest of it GO OLD WHITE MEN...!!!!!!!!!!!

It's pathetic that in American Politically Correct 'culture' someone gets called a racist for calling a typical black punk a typical black punk.

Next time, the old guy should shoot the prick for trespassing and have him arrested for harassment.

I don't think there's a side to be taken here. They both sound and look like idiots who are unable to communicate properly.

If either of them had any common sense and maturity that situation would have been resolved in 60 seconds. If I was the old man I could have resolved the situation and if I was the young kid I could have resolved the situation.

But both of them have too much ego and stupidity. I imagine it's 50% the kid being a smart ass and 50% the old guy being a grumpy, potentially racist fool going out of his way to find problems.

If I was the bloke fishing I'd have beat them both up with my rod and forced them to hug it out

Pretty sad how almost everyone takes one side or the other.

Both sides were clearly wrong in many ways...

Was either one right at the end of this? No, but the old guy certainly escalated the event with his physical behavior.
Therefore in my opinion the old guy is the catalyst to whatever outcome occurs.

I remember being young and not knowing many laws, or rules of etiquette that society had created and expected me to follow. One time, me and some friends went fishing in a pond. The owner (older gent) of the pond came by and said, "there's no fish in there boys, you might want to try a different spot". He was firm, but reasonable about it; therefore we learned that there was an imaginary line around the pond that we weren't supposed to cross any more. And we respected his rule, because we respected him.

However, If had he yelled at us, we probably would have egged his house or done some other childish and ignorant prank in retaliation. Why? Because we were young, ignorant, full of hormones and egos, and lacked the necessary information required to make better decisions.

Thus, I am thankful for people like him who guided me down the path of understanding, rather than scolding me down the path of misunderstanding instead.

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
reply to post by hotbakedtater

 

I didnt insult you

I said you had the potential to be 2 not so nice things.

Dude no offence but your a waste of time, everyone on this thread saw and noted in there posts (even the people on the old dudes side) that the old dude got physical first.
I believe its already been pointed out by Lysergic 5:57 and then the kid saying dont touch me again is a pretty good indication the old guy pushed him.

And just got a lesson in US property law courtesy of Psyckoops, Id tell you to check the post but as you have demonstrated your powers of observation are somewhat lacking.

Ignorance in this thread is beyond belief. Let's just forget the fight for a moment and think about the property issues. Many people seem to use that as their argument. As the law is if there is no fences, signs or prior knowledge of the property lines then there was nothing wrong in walking on someone elses property. So think about that before you post.

Case closed, kid did nothing wrong, old man got verbally and physically abusive first.
Kid is right old racist dinosaur wrong.

Im still waiting to see if you have the integrity to admit you were wrong about the crap and the first shove? now you can also add a retraction about how he shouldnt have been on the lawn as well

Dont worry Im not holding my breath

edit on 11-6-2011 by IkNOwSTuff because: (no reason given)

The kid, did everything wrong. There's an old saying that "if you go looking for trouble, then you will find it".

Why was the kid looking for trouble?

Why is the kid so disrespectful of other people and their property?

Why does the kid feel it necessary to bother an old man at the pond?

Is the old man racist? probably, but that does not give someone the right to infringe upon the property rights or happiness of another.

People, should be allowed to do whatever they want, as long as they don't cause harm to another, or another person's property.

The kid was disrespectful, accidentally by walking his dog on the man's land, and then disrespectful intentionally, by goading the old man into a fight. And extreme disrespect, for pushing someone 50 years his senior down the hill.

Totally disgraceful performance.

Originally posted by Swizzy
Boredom + Kids = This.

They clearly had nothing better to do than continue to do something that anoys a particular person in this case the retired fellow. Any rational thinking person would apologise for stepping on someones property and letting their dog take a dump. The only reason they went back to him was to get attention on Youtube and hopefully get beat up so they could go running home and call their brothers for help...

So god damn sad

That depends how the person reacted. It's not unusual to think that originally the kid probably had no idea all that land was somebodies property and that said people would even care.

I remember playing football with my younger cousin and the ball went in somebodies garden. I knocked on the door and asked if I could collect it, he went out back, brought it round the front and put a knife through it. That's excessive and disrespectful, and there's many old people who are like this. Just because you have a legal right doesn't mean you have a pass to be a jackass.

As I said they both look like they're to blame and anyone thinking it's all 1 side I'd have to question their bias.

Originally posted by Bentenheimer
I remember being young and not knowing many laws, or rules of etiquette that society had created and expected me to follow. One time, me and some friends went fishing in a pond. The owner (older gent) of the pond came by and said, "there's no fish in there boys, you might want to try a different spot". He was firm, but reasonable about it; therefore we learned that there was an imaginary line around the pond that we weren't supposed to cross any more. And we respected his rule, because we respected him.

However, If had he yelled at us, we probably would have egged his house or done some other childish and ignorant prank in retaliation. Why? Because we were young, ignorant, full of hormones and egos, and lacked the necessary information required to make better decisions.

Thus, I am thankful for people like him who guided me down the path of understanding, rather than scolding me down the path of misunderstanding instead.

That's exactly my point a few posts above. Your older but if you want treated with respect you have to give anyone a reason to grant you that respect. If people only just simply treated each other they way they want to be treated, society might not be so messed up.

Originally posted by hotbakedtater
I can shout why did you yell at me instead of asking politely, too, it does not make it true or mean no other methods were employed before the video camera came out. Just because the kid claims something on video does not necessarily make it true.

The kid asks him why he didn't ask politely.

The old man replies "Becuase.."

And you are trying to deny that he asked rudely?

That holds up in court, maybe not in your ageist fantasy land where all old people are angels and all young people are evil, but the truth is the truth, sorry. Your Louisville 'anti-black children' bias holds no weight here.

Watch the video again and use your brain this time.

reply to post by DuceizBack


The only part that's hilarious on here is when the old man pushes the kid and almost falls over doing it. Then the younger man pushes the old man a good 5 - 10 feet. Sure made me chuckle!

As for morality, I'm not going to turn this entertaining episode into something serious. Then it'll lose it's fun!

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
It's pathetic that in American Politically Correct 'culture' someone gets called a racist for calling a typical black punk a typical black punk.

Next time, the old guy should shoot the prick for trespassing and have him arrested for harassment.

That is racist. Why is he a typical black punk and not a typical punk. IF the black guy called him a typical white pensioner I'm sure you'd be in here crying about racism and the double standards.

The 'black' part in that sentence isn't needed.

Two wrongs don't make a right.


Neither of these people were in the right.


Leave the old cranky guy alone, and don't go on his yard. Swallow your pride. He's set in his ways and they won't change. You're as bad as him if you continue to provoke and recieve the OBVIOUS reaction.

living in an HOA I can see this from both sides. first off that old bastard is probably gonna be an ass regardless if a dog was there or not, they HATE young people. second, it does suck when your area has been the unofficially designated doggy area.

there is one old buzzard here that brings his dog to crap right next to my patio while I'm having coffee and reading the paper. he makes sure to look me right in the eye and then tells his dog "thats it, poopies right there, thats daddy's good little baby!". after confronting him and the other buzzards here to no avail, I posted a note that the next MF bold enough to do that again is gonna promptly get thier ass stomped. problem solved!

The kid was wrong and the old guy was wrong. The kid had ten feet of land by the lake to walk his dog without being on the old guy’s property; if he did go onto the old guy’s property then he should have apologized and tried to let it go.
The old guy was old and grumpy and wanted to let the kid now that he didn’t want his dog on his property. They both handled the incident like idiots. The old guy should have now better but out of contest we really can’t say how often the kid did that. He went there to video something perhaps he had been pushing the old man’s buttons long before this.
I would have asked the kid to please keep the dog closer to the lake and of my property and if he didn’t listen id go out and by an electric fence and let the dog piss on it.
I think the kid was looking for a fight to put on YouTube, if I were his dad and saw this. Toys and freedom would be gone for a long time.
I don’t see racism here I’ve seen white guys act just as stupid as the back kid. Sometimes when I see and hear some of these kids these days. I feel like slapping the parents.
After all even a dog is only as smart of its owner

Well that was a waste of time. What a bunch of stupid people all around. Typical young punk from texas, are they all like that? Every young texan I have met has been a gangsta wannabe like that. Typical old grump, instead of yelling he could have told him he was trespassing and not to do it again. Then again maybe he has done that before a few times before getting angry and shouting. Who knows...

I had a problem with a jerk walking with a dog through my back yard, repeatedly asked him not to. He didn't listen, his dog went after my cat one day, so I shot the dog....

People are too hung up on property. Its a society here, be nice to your neighbours. The kid looks nice and respectful. give him a break.

Originally posted by MrWendal

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
reply to post by MrWendal

 

He is not a "blatant racist", give me break with that nonsense. Just because you have an issue with someone of a different race does not make you a racist.

I agree totally but when you insult someone and make a racial slur I and most people would consider that racist.
Why didnt he just stop at young disrespectful punk? because to him calling someone black is insulting.

Trust me dude I hate political correctness in all forms and misplaced calls of racism or sexism make my blood boil but in this instance I think its pretty obvious the guys a racist.

Im still waiting to hear where the dog crap part is, would you be so kind as to point it out coz if its true then yes the kids a punk

Just because he added the word "black" still does not make him a racist.

There is a certain attitude that comes from young black men in this country. The honestly believe that everyone who disagrees with them is automatically a racist, because they are always right. It is called playing the race card and I see it on a daily basis.

The young man is being a "typical black punk". He is standing there flaunting his sense of entitlement, like the whole world owes him something and he can do whatever he wants regardless of how others feel about it. Sorry, but the way I see it... that makes him the same "typical black punk" that I see from the gangster wannabe's who walk around my neighborhood and get mad at people who do not drive their car into oncoming traffic just because they would rather walk in the street instead of on the sidewalk where they should be. If that makes me a "racist" I will wear that badge proudly and with honor.

If he had actually said typical black punk I could see not saying that he was racist, but what he says is, "typical punk black", so the old man see being black more than just an adjative he sees it as a completly differnt put down. Or he might of been that mad he wasn't thinking straight which is just as bad as being racist, because if he had stayed calm to begin with and just made his point and then the next day when the kid walks up out of the bank the old man should be sitting there video taping it. Then bring it in his face but still remaining calm if he keeps doing it then take it to court. These are the types of reason why the court exsit to keep people from doing harm to each other.

Originally posted by MrWendal

Originally posted by DuceizBack
This site is full of racist.

You guys talk about respect yet the old white man was cursing in front of a child.

HAHAHA that is far from a child...get real.

A Child is 8,9, 10 years old. The young man in the video is anywhere between 16-19..unless he is one HUGE 10 year old. Sorry but that is a far cry from a "child"

And how old was the little girl in the red? You should just stop talking, you are making yourself sound stupid

the old man knows he is wrong and panics. he prolly isn't a racist, but he did say a racist thing...sorta like Kramer...he isn't racist but panics as he is backed into a corner. Inside, the old man knows he is wrong.