F16 Crashes In Wisconsin, Eyewitness Claims Nuclear Weapons On Board As Military Plants Cover Story?

this reminds me of the movie "The Crazie"

Hydrazine:
Used in Emergency power units on attack jets
Emergency hydraulic and electric power are provided by a different type of gas turbine engine. Unlike most gas turbines, an emergency power unit has no gas compressor or ignitors, and uses a combination of hydrazine and water, rather than jet fuel. When the hydrazine and water mixture is released and passes across a catalyst of iridium, it spontaneously ignites, creating hot expanding gases which drive the turbine. The power created is transmitted through a gearbox to drive an electrical generator and hydraulic pump.
The hydrazine is contained in a sealed, nitrogen charged accumulator. When the system is armed, the hydrazine is released whenever the engine-driven generators go off-line, or if all engine-driven hydraulic pumps fail.

Nothing to see here folks, keep moving along please.

reply to post by MIDNIGHTSUN


Why would they be armed with Nuclear or Chemical weapons?

Is that against Treaties? Just asking.

F-16 is a weapons ARMED DELIVERY system, not a transport system. Isn''t nuclear / chemical movements covered in treaties? If not it should be, and certinally not on Agressive Weapon delivery aircraft.

Originally posted by AllUrChips
we are just bout due for a false flag. Even as the simpsons episode predicted this date subliminaly in a show just like they did with 911.

lol...

I doubt 0 ATS members lives in Wisconsin.

How about someone confirm or debunk the report.

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Well the news of F16 hitting a house is definitely true, also the news of the area being quarantined is true. They are checking for something, why else would they call for Hazmat crews?

This story could be something, or absolutely nothing.

reply to post by MIDNIGHTSUN


BS. How would an eye witness know what a nuke tipped war head would look like.

That's probably some cover story to keep the public away from the crash site.
More than likely it was a top secret craft that they don't want the public to see.

The witness probably saw one of the external fuel tanks on the aircraft and thought it was a nuke or something.

What suprises me is the shock that these aircraft are in the air...and lots of folks on here get bent when they hear about a military aircraft crashing. I.E. "If it was flying then OMG it must have been in the air to bomb something OMG!!!!"

As some of you already know, I have been a military Air Traffic Controller for over 14 years now and I can assure you.

Pilots have to train.. They have to fly and remain current. THese guys fly missions all the time, every day all over the US. It is normal.

Point being...dont panic when you see a military aircraft fly by or fly over. NBD really.

reply to post by grey580

This thread is a perfect example of why I only read ATS for entertainment value. So many claims in this thread alone are so off the wall, I find it hard to believe people actually believe them. The panic that sets in amongst some members brings to mind 9/11, when a teacher at my suburban Chicago school was shaking with fear, telling students that she was scared a plane from nearby O'Hare might tumble out of the sky onto the school. I don't see myself as a 'truther' but the day after 9/11 I was loudly stating in class that the attack was an excuse to go to war, pondering how they could be aware so quickly that Bin-Laden was responsible.

But a nuclear false flag on Chicago? Come on. Obama would not approve that, he would lose his house, not to mention Uncle Rhammy the new Mayor would likely develope a slightly darket tan due to the explosion.

It was an Air Guard plane on a training flight, nothing more. Sometimes planes crash. Speaking of quarrantines in Wisconsin, this is miniscule compared to Weyauwega HAZMAT Derailment

As for testing the F-35? Why would an ANG unit test fly a plane that has not yet been delivered to any active squadrons?

Already posted : www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by AlphaBetaGammaX


All F-16's carry hydrazine, which is the fuel for the EPU (emergency power unit). It is as previously stated a highly toxic chemical, so evacuating the area around a crash in no way points to chemical or nuclear weapons being carried. The aircraft itself is dangerous.

reply to post by IndieA


I watched the same show. It was an Oxcart SR71 that had crashed. It is interesting though. Maybe something to your idea.

Originally posted by smartbuddy
Already posted : www.abovetopsecret.com...

This thread beat yours by 5 mins.

This thread takes precedence.

reply to post by confreak


As in my previous post, I live in Wisconsin and our news only mentioned that there was an F16 crash near Madison. Nothing else. No followup reports here either. Usual military cover up.

I might also add that Hydrazine is Definitely something to be concerned about for the people who live in the area of the crash and may have been exposed.. It is Highly Toxic. Ignore the person saying there is nothing to see or worry about. They are wrong! That is what the Hazmat team is there for. To clean it up. If there were nukes and Chemical weapons that would also be an obvious toxic hazard in need of clean up. This incident is not going to affect people outside of the Wisconsin area. So wouldn't really worry unless you have been exposed to it.

You guys outside of Wisconsin are probably getting more news of what is really going on than those of us who live here.

Stay Safe

reply to post by ATC_GOD


You are absolutely Right! The Air National Guard and Reserve pilots fly because they have to "practice" missions. I was in the Air Force and AF Reserves. Our C-140's had routes they flew doing "touch and goes" at airports. Wisconsin Air Guard has the KC 135's that practice out of Milwaukee and Madison has the A-10's. Not sure if they moved the F-16s over there now too, but my point is that there have Always been military aircraft flying around as you said. If you live near an active duty base there will be much more activity.
If there ever is an attack it will happen so fast that you won't know what hit you anyway.
Don't worry about it.

Hydrazine is extremely toxic and dangerous. It's one of those things you want to be in a "moon suit" to handle, if you can.

That said, it's also possible to take some hydrazine and, if you really aren't concerned with your later health, use it as a component of a liquid binary explosive about as powerful, volume for volume, as it gets. You really don't want hydrazine commonly available.

Astrolite G binary.explosive mixture of ammonium nitrate and hydrazine
Astrolite A. trinary explosive mixture of ammonium nitrate hydrazine and aluminium dust.

Both are some of the most powerful explosives known and are liquid explosives.

Hydrazine and some organics can cause spontaneous fires.
This is the last thing you want at a crash site with jet fuel spread around.

reply to post by MIDNIGHTSUN


I don’t think the source is very reliable, people are prone to exaggeration the official story was that the toxic chemical hydrazine which is used in the F-16’s emergency power unit was the reason for the evacuation. It is highly toxic so it is possible that the eyewitness was told that there was a highly toxic chemical on board, he read into that “chemical weapon” as would be logical then on the news said there was a “chemical or nuclear weapon on board”. I don’t even think the F-16 can carry nukes anymore but I could be wrong.

In any case there is no way the OP can claim that this could have been a false flag gone wrong, even if it did have WMD on board, please tell me you don’t thing the government would be so stupid as to let a F-16 drop a Nuke from a plane over a populated area in America to cause death as part of a false flag?

People on ATS just love to run off to the “AHHH ANOTER FALSE FLAG” line every time something happens. Why OP do you think it is even remotely possible this was a false flag, if you engage your gray matter before you post you will realise that it clearly was not an attempted false flag gone wrong.

Originally posted by Sky watcher
reply to post by MIDNIGHTSUN

 

Omg!!! F-16s are known as lawn darts back in the day. They are not dumb enough to strap a live nuke or chemical bomb to one of these unless its overseas and that still wouldn't happen as any nuclear plane with a nuke just wont be flying around unless its about to attack something.

Fighters are the last planes that will bring the nuclear option. Let alone a National Guard plane, common guys think a little bit will ya.

Agreed (retired navy air traffic)

Originally posted by MIDNIGHTSUN

He then went on to say that some sort of munitions flew off the downed craft and hit a business close to ten miles away! The eyewitness, who is a business owner in the area, further claimed that officials were going door to door, ordering evacuations due to the fact that nuclear or chemical weapon was on board. ...... The fact that munitions hit a business ten miles away has also been left out of all new reports after the initial eyewitness testimony.

This sounds like it could have been a false flag attack gone horribly wrong. Considering the military wanted to instill more fear into the populace in support of their long war agenda. Since they mess up, they are manufacturing false claim to cover up their asses. Jesus Christ what the heck is wrong with the military. Have they gone mad. I can't believe they are attempting to attack the American imagination again.

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So the only logical explanation in your opinion is that it had to have been a false flag gone wrong?

So how about an F16 which landed without a front wheel in Greece recently, was that a false flag too?


How people manage to draw such ridiculous final conclusions is beyond me.

Btw, did the eyewitness see the aircraft armed with nuclear weapons?
I assume he/she did, since how else could he/she know?

Did he/she take any photos? I certainly would take photos of a military jet that's crashed.
I ask because the only nuclear weapons an F16 is capable of carrying is a B61. And even then, not every F16 is built with the capability to carry and use nuclear weapons.

reply to post by MIDNIGHTSUN


Mini-nukes? When did this come out. I heard it was thermite.

Anyway this does seem like a normal plane crash.