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Just a simple question

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posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 06:21 AM
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No, not really, I'm going to ask you to think long and hard about your answer.

Before we start, lets lay out a set of guidelines. Some things have always intriuged me, one being Archaeoastronomy


Archaeoastronomy (also spelled archeoastronomy) is the study of how people in the past "have understood the phenomena in the sky, how they used phenomena in the sky and what role the sky played in their cultures."[1] Clive Ruggles argues it is misleading to consider archaeoastronomy to be the study of ancient astronomy, as modern astronomy is a scientific discipline, while archaeoastronomy considers other cultures' symbolically rich cultural interpretations of phenomena in the sky.


Archaeoastronomy

yea yea yea, wikipedia blah blah blah. Regardless of your feelings about it, there is a lot of real information there and so, yes I do use it.

Most sites are in a circular formation, so, that is the first rule, you answer must fit within a 360 degree area with the observation being in the center of the the area.

Within this paradigm, the solstices, the position of Orion, solar, lunar and stellar orientation are a must.

What do you add to this monument and way




edit on 8-6-2011 by NuroSlam because: typo



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 08:03 AM
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Where's the question? You know, they come with a "?".



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 08:27 AM
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reply to post by Lazarus Short
 


What do you add to this monument and way



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 08:33 AM
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What monument? This is gibberish.

You are babbling nonsense.



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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im finding it hard to understand the question...

if its...what additional object could be added to the existing astronomical sites??...

well there is one thing that you have not mentioned....sacrifical monuement....for a good example look at the "Emerald Table" - pure quartz table used to sacrifice to the god Ra...in the 5th dynasty the sun kibgs would sacrifice here each morning...



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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Oh, well let's see, I am sure we can "rename" some of the constellations to let the future know how much we screwed up their world.

The Monsanto Nebula enveloped the Innocent planets of the star cluster Sheeple! Is that what you mean?

To tell a story about today's world for the future?

There is no Future for today's World! So go ahead and erase the stars the Story is over!



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 09:23 AM
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what monument and which way?
and who gave the OP a star & flag when nobody understands the question?
does this mean that nonsensical questions deserve S & F?
if someone likes the OP's question so much, then maybe that someone would appreciate it if i put a question on the question so they can question the question while they're questioning.

what monument and which way?



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by NuroSlam
I'm going to ask you to think long and hard about your answer.


OK, Fair enough. This should be interesting.


Before we start, lets lay out a set of guidelines. Some things have always intriuged me, one being Archaeoastronomy


Me too.

Oh boy, this should be good....


yea yea yea, wikipedia blah blah blah. Regardless of your feelings about it, there is a lot of real information there and so, yes I do use it.


So do I but only when I absolutely have to.
Moving along.


Most sites are in a circular formation, so, that is the first rule, you answer must fit within a 360 degree area with the observation being in the center of the the area.


Check!
Thanks for the safety tip



Within this paradigm, the solstices, the position of Orion, solar, lunar and stellar orientation are a must.



You said the "P" word. But ok let's get to the question already.


What do you add to this monument and way


Which monument?
Where?
What size?
Which orientation?
Which longitude and latitude?
Who built it?
What time period in human history?
Which culture or civilization?

How many finger am I holding up



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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Is it what do you add and way ? Way, as in how ? Or is it what do you add and why ?

(And how many finger am I holding up ? Per Slayer . . too, as in also.) Laughing here . . LMAO . .



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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I guess I should have added

The one you would build in your backyard. That future man would be able to decode and understand the level of intelligence needed to erect it

Altho I don't see what exact difference it makes which one it is as long as it contains the elements listed in the rule. Didn't think it had to be spelled out.

Its a thinking question about a generic site what might be added and why. Pardon my typos in the OP
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posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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Frankly, I'd do something similar to what the ancient Sumerians and Babylonians did: ephemeris.com...

I'd do a really good map of the stars for different times of the year. I'd divide the heavens into sectors to use when I check my data to see if that bright spot really DID change positions between this month and last month. I'd have a good set basepoint (in other words, a "sight line" with a "place your eye here" and "look over yonder" locations so that we're all looking in the same direction at the same thing.

And a calendar of some sort along with a method of marking the hours. And something to make marks on so I can record what I see.

...just like the ancient Sumerians had.

That's if I wanted a really good astronomy site; one that was useful for looking at the heavens.

If the only thing I needed was to know when to expect the onset of winter and spring, a set of solstice markers on a single stone could do that (like this one at Painted Rocks, Texas)



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 12:17 AM
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Obviously you speak jibberish ;]



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:30 AM
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Are you talking about building an "Uriel Machine"? It takes a year, you know, plus just the right patch of real estate.

www.knight-lomas.com...
edit on 9-6-2011 by Lazarus Short because: lah-de-dah

edit on 9-6-2011 by Lazarus Short because: dum-de-dum



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by NuroSlam
reply to post by Byrd
 


Obviously you speak jibberish ;]


I think you are a little out-of-line here, based on your vague requests. When someone tries to add something
of substance to your weak and difficult-to-understand posts, you don't need to treat them like you did.

Re-read your entire thread and ask yourself if YOU have made your point.

If you ask for opinions and ideas, be big enough and open enough to accept them.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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Why do you percieve the position of Orion to be a must in this hypothetical henge that I might construct?



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by SIEGE

Originally posted by NuroSlam
reply to post by Byrd
 


Obviously you speak jibberish ;]


I think you are a little out-of-line here, based on your vague requests. When someone tries to add something
of substance to your weak and difficult-to-understand posts, you don't need to treat them like you did.

Re-read your entire thread and ask yourself if YOU have made your point.

If you ask for opinions and ideas, be big enough and open enough to accept them.


It was sarcasim seeing how those who didn't understand was calling it jibberish. Since the poster understood my jibberish they must speak it as well



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by CaptHowdy
reply to post by NuroSlam
 

Why do you percieve the position of Orion to be a must in this hypothetical henge that I might construct?


I see it as a good method of dating the structure



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 08:14 AM
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OK, fair enough. So what is the actual purpose of my structure? Is it specifically to impart to some future culture the fact that we were technologically advanced and could observe astronomical events? Most of these that have already been contructed seem to have served an actual purpose, such as identifying the solstices and such, and were likely for either religious use or practical applications such as when to plant or harvest crops. Obviously, I could make one in such a way to observe any given astronomical feature, and perhaps if I am clever, it can even indicate such localized events such as eclipses. Before I can contemplate additional features, please clarify what my structure is intended to do.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 09:12 AM
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I tried to be as vague as possible in order to establish "fundamentals" on these types of monuments. I figure that most people even interested in this has wondered what the would have done the same and what they would have done differently. Personally I have always wanted to recreate stonehenge, but over the years and more recently wondered what one of a personal creation would be like.

I like the idea of a mixture of wood and stone, with stone being used for celestial positions and wood for things that would not require a height requirement, the solstices etc. One could include a way to predict the position of the stars for a period of time as well

as I see this as a personal monument, its purpose is left up to the imagination. Sort of like why would someone build the coral castle.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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Simple, I'm lazy. I find an existing natural formation that I can use as a point of reference, and instead, just mark where I have to stand and view the appropriate times from.

Maybe it's a rock with a hole in it, or a funky tree, or even the crest of distant mountains, etc.




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