Atheism

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Isn't scientology one of those feel good cults? Perhaps your mother belonged to a different cult but most of these feel good cults are indeed satanic in nature. "Oh, but I expected them to reveal this to me when I joined"

Yeah, your naive. Next person please!

Still spouting off with no real knowledge.

Didn't bother to research - did you?

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

I'm a little confused about your etymological assertions here.

Unless you understand the original meanings then cutting through the *expletive deleted* is an excercise in futility. What do disclosure and congress mean? First word means *disc* + *lo* + *sure*= flying saucer!

More like dis + closure, where closure means a barrier or division. So, literally, it's the removal of barriers or divisions. In this context, the removal of barriers to information.

Congress means *con* + *gress* = the opposite of progress!

Congress is actually derived from congredi, con meaning together and gredi meaning to walk. So in the context of Congress, it's a group of people (ideally, but never in practice) moving together. Progress obviously has the same root and the prefix pro means forward, so it means to move forward.

Again literal translations, word for word! pro=positive and con=negative and what does *gress* mean?

You're mixing up your Latin roots due to our desire to shorten words in modern language. Con, as in congress, comes from com, which literally means together; Latin uses con instead of com before most consonants, like the g in gress. Con, as in a negative position, derives from contra, which literally means against. So your "literal" translations aren't really all that literal.

Progress means to go forward, regress should mean to repeat and congress should mean to fool!

You're right about the meaning of progress. Regress literally means to go backward. And we've already discussed the meaning of congress.

Seriously, etymological dictionaries are the bomb. Everyone should own one.

Originally posted by iterationzero
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

I'm a little confused about your etymological assertions here.

Unless you understand the original meanings then cutting through the *expletive deleted* is an excercise in futility. What do disclosure and congress mean? First word means *disc* + *lo* + *sure*= flying saucer!

More like dis + closure, where closure means a barrier or division. So, literally, it's the removal of barriers or divisions. In this context, the removal of barriers to information.

Ok. I think you are correct here!

Progress means to go forward, regress should mean to repeat and congress should mean to fool!

You're right about the meaning of progress. Regress literally means to go backward. And we've already discussed the meaning of congress.

Seriously, etymological dictionaries are the bomb. Everyone should own one.

So *gress* comes from the latin *gredi* which means to walk. Con is a negative/false position and I don't think it has anything to do with *com*. Re means *again*. So if we put *con* and *gress* together we get *to walk negatively*. *Con* + *fuse*= to fuse falsely!

Similary I must admit I got philosophy wrong as *philo* means *friend* and *sophia* means *wisdom* so together we get *friend of wisdom* rather than friend of knowledge.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

So *gress* comes from the latin *gredi* which means to walk.

Yes.

Con is a negative/false position and I don't think it has anything to do with *com*.

Using con to mean a negative or false position is a relatively recent invention of language that stems from the Latin word contra, meaning against. Again, the prefix con, as in the context of the word congress, is the form of com, meaning together, that is used before most consonants in Latin, such as the "g" in gress. Feel free to look it up.

Re means *again*.

Or it means back, but we're splitting hairs on this one.

So if we put *con* and *gress* together we get *to walk negatively*.

Again, wrong prefix root. See above. You don't have to take my word for it. Like I said, etymological dictionaries are one of the best things ever.

*Con* + *fuse*= to fuse falsely!

Same root prefix as in congress, so it's not fusing them falsely, but fusing them together. In the literal sense, it's used to mean mixing things together until they become indistinguishable... a literal state of confusion.

Similary I must admit I got philosophy wrong as *philo* means *friend* and *sophia* means *wisdom* so together we get *friend of wisdom* rather than friend of knowledge.

Close, philo actually takes it past the "just friends" step and into love. Philosophy is literally the love of wisdom.

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And you just dodged the question. The architecture you mentioned has been met by and surpassed by non-religious architecture.

I asked for something that could be done only by religion, not something that can be inspired by all sorts of things.

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
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And you just dodged the question. The architecture you mentioned has been met by and surpassed by non-religious architecture.

I asked for something that could be done only by religion, not something that can be inspired by all sorts of things.

Well that's just a reductionist way of looking at it... once again you try to stifle the differend ....

The beginnings of our massive and great architecture were indeed inspired by beliefs in gods... sure, since we moved out of the cradles of our civilizations we have improved on it... but it all originated from those....

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Really? So the pyramids were built because of religion, not because of the pharaoh trying to show off?

If you can claim all of architectural history on religion because some religious structures were among the first major construction projects, then I guess we can say that everything boils down to idiocy because our first discoveries were all based on some pretty stupid decisions.

Again, where is the evidence of something that could not have been produced without religion, not something that happened to have been first produced by religion.

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You seem to have a disdain for primitive/ancient cultures and their thinking....

why is that?

reply to post by HunkaHunka

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by madnessinmysoul

 

You seem to have a disdain for primitive/ancient cultures and their thinking....

Not a disdain for their cultures as a whole, merely parts of them. And their thinking is just wrong.

why is that?

Because certain elements of them were wrong. Hell, certain elements of them are somewhat present but improved upon in modern times too. Their thinking was primitive, it was pre-scientific and pre-philosophical. They didn't have as full a grasp how to think as we do today.

They're down their still in the dirt, while we're standing proudly upon the shoulders of giants who are on other giants and so on and so forth for a few thousand years.

They lived in a different time with different priorities and their thinking was very flawed in many ways. I can point it out to you if you want.

I'll say this, they sure did know how to tell a story...even though storytelling has moved immensely forward since then.

reply to post by madnessinmysoul


I guess this is our difference... I don't have an issue with "flawed thinking" or people being "wrong"... Rarely is that the issue i have with others.....

Im more interested in how people interact and why, than on how accurate something is.


The search to be right is only one of the many drives of humanity... Another is to be loved, another is to inspire, another is to catalog.... Even Francis Bacon understood this...

Originally posted by iterationzero

Con is a negative/false position and I don't think it has anything to do with *com*.

Using con to mean a negative or false position is a relatively recent invention of language that stems from the Latin word contra, meaning against. Again, the prefix con, as in the context of the word congress, is the form of com, meaning together, that is used before most consonants in Latin, such as the "g" in gress. Feel free to look it up.

Considering the number of "mistakes" the american government makes I will continue to believe congress is a CONjob aka *walk fasely* or *walk negatively*.

Re means *again*.

Or it means back, but we're splitting hairs on this one.

There is no such thing as "back". Re means AGAIN as in redo, rethink, reposses, rewrite, reeducate, recraft, etc.

So if we put *con* and *gress* together we get *to walk negatively*.

Again, wrong prefix root. See above. You don't have to take my word for it. Like I said, etymological dictionaries are one of the best things ever.

Most definitions and meanings change over time.

*Con* + *fuse*= to fuse falsely!

Same root prefix as in congress, so it's not fusing them falsely, but fusing them together. In the literal sense, it's used to mean mixing things together until they become indistinguishable... a literal state of confusion.

When you fuse things together falsely then OBVIOUSLY they will bring confusion.

Similary I must admit I got philosophy wrong as *philo* means *friend* and *sophia* means *wisdom* so together we get *friend of wisdom* rather than friend of knowledge.

Close, philo actually takes it past the "just friends" step and into love. Philosophy is literally the love of wisdom.

Philo means FRIEND. I am of greek heritage and live in greece. Don't you think my greek is better than yours?

Philosophy means *friendly wisdom*. Psychology literaly means *study of the soul* and has NOTHING to do with anything else. Atheists with their stubborn stupidity over the ages have transformed many a words into something that holds no original merit.

It kind of pisses me off!

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul

Because certain elements of them were wrong. Hell, certain elements of them are somewhat present but improved upon in modern times too. Their thinking was primitive, it was pre-scientific and pre-philosophical. They didn't have as full a grasp how to think as we do today.

They're down their still in the dirt, while we're standing proudly upon the shoulders of giants who are on other giants and so on and so forth for a few thousand years.

They lived in a different time with different priorities and their thinking was very flawed in many ways. I can point it out to you if you want.

I'll say this, they sure did know how to tell a story...even though storytelling has moved immensely forward since then.

The countries that you consider "back-ass-words" today work less and enjoy life more than europe and america with their so called "freedom". Freedom to over-taxation and freedom "to vote" which criminal they prefer in office. LOL

And here is another "joke". India, egypt, china, greece, rome, sumeria gave ALMOST EVERYTHING to the modern world when the modern world was still sleeping in tents and hunting as nomads for survival. They were barbarians and uncivilized!

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
The countries that you consider "back-ass-words" today work less and enjoy life more than europe and america with their so called "freedom". Freedom to over-taxation and freedom "to vote" which criminal they prefer in office. LOL

And here is another joke. India, egypt, china, greece, rome, sumeria gave ALMOST EVERYTHING to the modern world when the modern world was still sleeping in tents and hunting as nomads for survival. They were barbarians and uncivilized!

This reminds me of:

How much money did you make - - - How much money did you hang on to and use to build something - - that would give you profits?

The Modern World - - - built on what it was given. That's the difference.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Philo means FRIEND. I am of greek heritage and live in greece.

Cool - - how are things in Greece. Don't you think you should capitalize your own country.

Anyway - - my granddaughter is half Greek. Would love to take her there someday.