Something Strange In Chile's Earthquakes - 6 Mile By 3 Mile Rift Rips In Earths Crust!?

Originally posted by Phage
There is a big difference between a fissure 25' wide forming in 3 weeks and a rift 5 miles wide forming in a day.

Think about it, it makes no sense. That much earth movement in such a short period of time would create huge earthquakes.

It appears to be an error in translation. I would venture that the Peruvian officials said something like, "The eruption did not occur in Puyehue volcano but in the rift area four kilometers from it." The press; "Whoa! a rift! The eruption caused a huge rift!"

Puyehue-Cordón Caulle volcano in Central Chile is a complex of 2 volcanoes: Puyehue volcano and the fissure system of Cordón Caulle. Puyehue volcano has a 2.4 km wide summit caldera, but historical eruptions occurred at the Cordón Caulle rift zone.

The Cordón Caulle geothermal area occupies a 6 x 13 km wide depression and is the largest active geothermal area in the southern Andes.

www.volcanodiscovery.com...

edit on 6/6/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)

Five miles is nothing on the volcano itself. The quakes would not be that big as its cause by Lava pressure splitting it apart and melting the rock over time till the last bit blows. Its not like two tectonic plates hundreds of miles long splitting.

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Photo courtesy of bigthink.com...

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Also of high interest is this site, which has recorded activity dating back to 5080BC
Specific data on Puyehue-Cordón Caulle

The site has not been updated to reflect the June 2011 activity yet.
www.volcano.si.edu...

An animated gif of the ash plume:

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Weather satellite image superimposed on a map of southern South America showing the plume from Puyehue-Cordón Caulle, courtesy of AccuWeather

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UPDATE

." It is not yet clear which of the Puyehue Cordon Caulle volcanic chain's four volcanoes has erupted, because of the heavy ash cloud. hisz.rsoe.hu...

"I ask all the population (in designated areas) to evacuate as soon as possible, because ... human life could be at risk," said Juan Andres Varas, regional governor of Los Rios, Chile.

In a statement posted on the Los Rios government's website Monday, he said volcanic material and potentially toxic gases were slowly advancing toward the nearby Nilahue Valley. edition.cnn.com...

Chilean Patagonia - Looking north across the Llanquihue Lake, with the Osorno Volcano to the right, and the erupting Puyehue Volcano (actually a volcanic area just to the west) on the left. ireport.cnn.com...

Although the eruption has been attributed to the Puyehue volcano, it is not clear if it is restricted to this volcano or if it extends to the Caulle Mountain Range, an adjacent volcanic fissure. The Caulle complex has erupted many times in recorded history. The last eruption occurred in 1960 causing widespread destruction, while the Puyehue volcano has remained dormant longer.

www.digitaljournal.com...

Here is a google map image of the EQ's, active volcanic areas (circled in red) and surrounding volcanoes and major cities nearby.

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Bariloche was cut off in the scaling of the image - it is to the right (southeast). From talking to people I know in Chile, it seems the majority of the ash cloud is moving slightly southeast over Bariloche (at least for now).

Sorry if i've missed it, but can someone explain to me what the implications of the rift as detailed in the op, would represent ?

Oh and yes I understand the info has now been understood to be a misconstrunement, regardless, it would be nice to know what the interest surrounding such an event is all about, and would it lead to anything ?

Oh and if anyone can correct my spelling mistakes that would be a bonus

S+F op, great thread

reply to post by burntheships


Very interesting videos. Electrical storms and lightning are very uncommon in that region of Southern Chile. The energy from the eruption must have spawn an electrical storm. I'm not a meteorologist, so I'm wondering if anyone on ATS knows what natural mechanism is in play that is generating those electrical discharges. I imagine it's related to the force of the eruption and ash cloud.

Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

 

Someone had mentioned the split that occured in Eritiea. and had looked at a map and this is the most logical expansion of that rift!

Please do explain how that could be a logical expansion of this rift zone?

I am waiting to be educated since obviously many years of geography and geology have done nothing for me.

Edit: Here is a map to help you with the 'logic, reality and common sense'.

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edit on 6/6/2011 by PuterMan because: To add a map

Unless there were like a series of mangitude 7+ quakes and some tsunami's, I agree. It would be almost impossible to happen but I think they will find a way throught but not in the near future, it would take a good few years for this to happen.

All these Earthquakes and Rifts.........pause for thought.....how off the wall is the Expanding Earth Theory?
Didn't read all the thread I'm about to go through it.....Did we get any pictures? I should imagine pictures of the rift might be too great a task while the Volcanoes are so active, Pyroclastic Clouds and such.

Imagine if the Mid Atlantic Ridge did the same? Very interesting times

Originally posted by DreamerOracle
All these Earthquakes and Rifts.........pause for thought.....how off the wall is the Expanding Earth Theory?
Didn't read all the thread I'm about to go through it.....Did we get any pictures? I should imagine pictures of the rift might be too great a task while the Volcanoes are so active, Pyroclastic Clouds and such.

Imagine if the Mid Atlantic Ridge did the same? Very interesting times

I reckon they will find a way to do that someday through HAARP.

Originally posted by matito
I'm not a meteorologist, so I'm wondering if anyone on ATS knows what natural mechanism is in play that is generating those electrical discharges. I imagine it's related to the force of the eruption and ash cloud.

I don't know if meteorologists even study volcanic eruptions.

Have you ever shuffled your feet on the carpet and got a shock touching a door knob? That shock was a small lightning bolt.

The discharge occurred because your feet picked up electrons from the carpet and your body developed a negative charge, and when it was able to discharge the extra electrons, it did. Volcanic lightning is sort of like that except it's the hot ash taking electrons from the atmosphere instead of your feet taking electrons from the carpet:

www.supertightstuff.com...

Here is a description from Ian O’Neill from Universe Today: “As the hot ash rises through the cooler atmosphere, transfer of charge occurs. This excess of electrons within the cloud makes it act like a capacitor, and should the conditions be correct, huge electrical discharges may be observed as bolts of lightning during volcanic eruptions.

Could this rift not be a result of the Earth ripping apart, but of the magma below melting the rock underneath, and pushing to the surface? Thus there would not need to be any huge Earthquake.

If you look back over the last century, we have had a slight increase in Earthquake activity and volcanic activity. If the Earth was to start becoming more active, at what rate would this happen. It seems at a very slow rate. Could that be what we are seeing?

Nice pics
really just posting to pin the thread.
Just imagine if Yellowstone ever erupted.

My heart sinks every time I see or read about this happening. Rift or fissures to me doesn't matter what it shows me is that the things I have been shown and told by the ones you call Alien's is all slowly coming to light. It will continue sadly and worsen until the event occurs.

Originally posted by poet1b
If you look back over the last century, we have had a slight increase in Earthquake activity and volcanic activity. If the Earth was to start becoming more active, at what rate would this happen. It seems at a very slow rate. Could that be what we are seeing?

According to at least one scientist, it's not increasing at such a slow rate, and he thinks it's related to global warming (though apparently not man-made global warming, but the natural kind):

Study: Seismic Activity 5 Times More Energetic Than 20 Years Ago Because Of Global Warming

The analysis of more than 386,000 earthquakes between 1973 and 2007 recorded on the US Geological Survey database proved that the global annual energy of earthquakes on Earth began increasing very fast since 1990."...Increase in the annual energy of earthquakes is the strongest symptom yet of planetary overheating.

"NASA measurements from space confirm that Earth as a whole absorbs at least 0.85 Megawatt per square kilometer more energy from the Sun than it is able to radiate back to space. This 'thermal imbalance' means that heat generated in the planetary interior cannot escape and that the planetary interior must overheat. Increase in seismic, tectonic and volcanic activities is an unavoidable consequence of the observed thermal imbalance of the planet," said Dr. Chalko.

I don't know if he's right or not, but he makes an interesting case, and the data I've seen seem to support some kind of increase in both global temperatures and major earthquakes.

This graph only goes back to 1990, and the logarithmic magnitude scale understates the increase, but it seems like there is an increase in the 8+ magnitude quakes:
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Compared to the relative lull in magnitude 8+ earthquakes from 1990-1992, the graph does seem to support what Dr. Chalko is claiming about increases since then based on the largest earthquakes, but that graph isn't really a good indicator of total energy which is apparently what he looked at..

reply to post by Arbitrageur


That goes along well with this theory.

www.expanding-earth.org...

When you look at the ocean rifts circling Antarctica, it is clear that the southern hemisphere is expanding faster than the northern.

UPDATE


Associated Press Updated: Monday, June 6, 3:21 PM

An erupting Chilean volcano sent a towering plume of ash across South America on Monday, forcing thousands from their homes, grounding airline flights in southern Argentina and coating ski resorts with a gritty layer of dust instead of snow.

Booming explosions echoed across the Andes as toxic gases belched up from a

three-mile-long (five-kilometer long) fissure in the Puyehue-Cordon Caulle volcanic complex — a ridge between two craters just west of the Chilean-Argentine border that began erupting Saturday


....Enrique Valdivieso, the director of Chile’s National Geology and Mines Service, said the fissure was belching toxic gases and material that could clog rivers and force them to overflow.

www.washingtonpost.com... JjAaKH_story.html

reply to post by burntheships

That's sounding a lot more reasonable that this.

A rift more than six miles (10 kilometers) long and three miles (five kilometers) across was torn in the earth's crust, officials said Saturday night.

The eruption is occurring along a fissure within the rift. That's the way rift eruptions work.

reply to post by Phage


Three miles yes. I am in the process of checking other news sources for updates, and if I can find
a conclusive body of evidence, I may ask a mod to update the title.

As to the other articles in the OP, they have not been corrected, or retracted.

So...go figure.

reply to post by matito


Yes, its extreme. You will like this photo for sure!


Lightning strikes over the Puyehue volcano, over 500 miles south of Santiago, Chile,
Monday June 6, 2011.

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AP Photo/Francisco Negroni, AgenciaUno)

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Wow 6 miles long and 3 miles wide that sound really massive, and really bad.
Does anyone know the long time implications of this. As my mind go crazy! Those pictures are something else.
I haven't seen anything on the msn about thise so far(have not been watching all day) and im not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing.(tin hat on) I also can't help but notice all the extra interest in Syria and Yemen lately. They didn't care to report when thousands(or hundreds) of protesters were getting killed. Now just before this big rift opens they start a big distraction piece.
S&F for bring this to our attention and posting those cool pics