Amazing Evidence: The Human Specie is Hundreds of Millions of Years Old!

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by Xtrozero

 

I had mentioned this earlier...but i don't believe humans lived in "dino times". I believe that some dinos lived into "human times", though.

Few enough that they could remain in the wild and only occasionally cross paths with humans. Like The Beast from Disney, humans would round up a posse and chase down the monsters.

Perhaps this is the source of the tales of dragons? There are many, many, many reports of pterosaurs, including the Amerind "Thunderbird". The sizes reported preclude the Frigate Bird, so we are left with anomolies still.

I am not saying it is true, only possible. With all the reports of what can only be dino type beasts from around the globe, past and present, we have to consider the possibility. Because we know humans are experts at hunting small populations of animals into extinction

I love the idea of this too, in the back of my mind there will always be a Land that Time Forget, but even if all the dinosaurs had not been made extinct by a catastrophic event like the one defined by the K-T Boundary, it has been shown that very, very, very, very few species have a life span greater than ten million years. Which includes us, with or without, outside help. Small pockets of survival may exist, but in the end, the only cold-blooded creatures capable of surviving such an occurence would have been small enough to be able to burrow deep enough to get the heat they needed from the Earth. Which is why, small, burrowing, warm-blooded mammals were given the advantage, and subsequently thrived. Cold and dark adaptation has become an essential element of long term species survival on this planet as it has matured.

reply to post by Pythein



The stories of the pterosaurs have them being cliff hanging, cave dwelling animals that come out to warm, and to hunt. I would be expected that an animal with such a wingspan, being dark in color, would find it very easy to achieve and maintain blood warmth from ultra high altitudes.

It has also been shown that dinosaurs, while appearing reptilian, were warm blooded animals.

Like i said, not that it is true...just that it could be possible. People see something, i am just trying to find an explanation.

reply to post by Xtrozero




But why do you keep trying to force it into man living 150 million years ago? Why can't it be dinosaurs living in more modern times?

Related to that, you say there is no other evidence...what about the dozens of reports of dinosaur like animals being spotted throughout human history?

Have you ever read on the mokele mbembe? If not, it is fascinating reading. The video on it is interesting as well:



Also, there are the numerous pterosaur sightings throughout the Gulf area (south Texas has had quite a few, 1 compelling account by a teachers group).

There IS evidence. Just look.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by Pythein

 

The stories of the pterosaurs have them being cliff hanging, cave dwelling animals that come out to warm, and to hunt. I would be expected that an animal with such a wingspan, being dark in color, would find it very easy to achieve and maintain blood warmth from ultra high altitudes.

It has also been shown that dinosaurs, while appearing reptilian, were warm blooded animals.

Like i said, not that it is true...just that it could be possible. People see something, i am just trying to find an explanation.

I don't object to the idea at all, and your understanding of dinosaurs is clearly far superior to mine, which I have already admitted is limited. Clearly some flying dinosaurs survived to evolve into birds, and it seems to me that you have just explained beautifully, how those antecedents may have combated the several months of total darkness....and obviously, if they had already adapted to eating insects* they would have had an advantage...and assuming they had improved night vision due to nocturnal habits, this would also be in their favour...possible...those who survived the immediate effects of the impact, and could adapt to the situation short term, in that their diet wasn't overly specialised, only had to subsist through about 7 months while the dust cleared and sunlight was able to penetrate, which rapidly stimulated precipitation...so within twelve months, plant life would have begun to regenerate. That some survived is not really in question, but surviving is not the same as subsequently arresting principles of evolution. Time would have to literally stand still, or forget the dinosaurs for them to remain in an evolutionary stasis that would allow them to have then walked alongside hominids.

ETA Fish too. Or sea creatures rather, would have remained available to some extent and quickly re-emerged, as would amphibians, following the return of the Sun. I can see how more winged dinosaurs than land-locked ones would have made it through...

Simply put, there's NO EVIDENCE that humans roamed the earth with dinosaurs (unless you consider a crocodile a dinosaur).

Not so fast,

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
If this engraving by a prehistoric stonemason represents a dinosaur, there’s something wrong!

These animals lived 135,000,000 years ago.

This is no crocodile


No body can explain how the prehistoric man knew about dinosaurs, about the looks and shape of the animal.
It may be very well that humans existed prior to what was found, it's not some far away science fiction notion.

Originally posted by gekados

The evolutionary theory is nothing more than a theory...and not even a solid one. It has some major flows & I'm sure it will not stand for much longer.

"nothing more than a theory...?" I think you might be mistaken with what we would call a hypothesis.

Giving the fact that a new theory surfaced, which states that humans are not meat eaters by nature, we could have easily survived (before big animals appeared) with a pure vegetarian diet.

A hypothesis that humans are not meat eaters by nature....


There is a world difference between the two words. But in any case how did we come about if we were "before big animals"?

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
There is another interpretation of finding human and dino footprints next to each other. It may not be that man lived during the age of dinosaurs. It may be that some dinosaurs survived into the age of men.

There are so many reports of beasts that seem VERY dinosaur like in humanities history that it has to be considered.

Of course dinosaurs live with humans.... except for very few that live in water, all have evolved too. The OP talked about humans living 150 plus million years ago and you suggest dinosaurs lived with modern humans in last 500k years or so or what we know of the human time line.

I say maybe….. Big maybe at that, since you are suggesting these dinosaurs are close to what lived 150 million years ago. The world gets smaller every day and we have only a few examples of this and none with land base creatures, but we have millions of examples of evolved dinosaurs all around us. In either case the big red flag is that either dinosaurs or humans stop evolving for very long periods of time and that goes against everything else in nature.

Originally posted by pepsi78


No body can explain how the prehistoric man knew about dinosaurs, about the looks and shape of the animal.
It may be very well that humans existed prior to what was found, it's not some far away science fiction notion.

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"Here be dragons"....

Written and understood long before the first dinosaur bone was found. Does that mean we had dinosaurs roaming the earth 500 years ago?

"Here be dragons"....

Written and understood long before the first dinosaur bone was found. Does that mean we had dinosaurs roaming the earth 500 years ago?

Yes but that does not look like a dragon, the shape, the belly, the form, looks like a dinosaur.

This is how a dragon looks.


Now compare it to this.


This is a dinosaur.


I'm saying that it may have been passed on as a notion on to generations and that humanity is older that thought.

reply to post by Xtrozero



I do agree, stopping evolution is a major hurdle. Especially when you consider the bottlenecks created by smaller population groups. Smaller genetic pool = greater swings in genetic drift.

But the stories over the previous 3000 years sound so, so similar to dinosaurs. The dragon hunts especially. But even the story of Behemoth in the bible....remarkably similar to mokele-mbembe.

I take the stories of our ancestors in high regard.

reply to post by Xtrozero


It may be a hypothesis to you, but it's definitely a theory for its developers.

On the other hand, if 'theory = supreme truth' in your understanding, then sadly we have no 100% truth yet.

reply to post by pepsi78


Cave drawings of a 'dinosaur' does not prove that there was a dinosaur. If we locked up all my kids' drawings in a time capsule & opened it up 200,000 years from now, should future people assume that we have birds with 4 legs, purple dogs with polka dots, & cows with a snake head?

no.

reply to post by gekados


Even assuming all of that was true and not just hoaxes or wishful thinking, then it still says nothing whatsoever about to the antiquity of humans nor any other YEC mumbo jumbo.

It does, however, suggest that at some point in the future we'll invent time travel

Originally posted by gekados
reply to post by Xtrozero

 

It may be a hypothesis to you, but it's definitely a theory for its developers.

On the other hand, if 'theory = supreme truth' in your understanding, then sadly we have no 100% truth yet.

You missed my point. You are treating a theory as if it was a hypothesis....

I don't suggest theory = "supreme truth", but then I don't take a hypothesis or speculation and easily replace a theory with it.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by Xtrozero

 

I do agree, stopping evolution is a major hurdle. Especially when you consider the bottlenecks created by smaller population groups. Smaller genetic pool = greater swings in genetic drift.

But the stories over the previous 3000 years sound so, so similar to dinosaurs. The dragon hunts especially. But even the story of Behemoth in the bible....remarkably similar to mokele-mbembe.

I take the stories of our ancestors in high regard.

It does seem that if any large dinosaurs lived in our resent past they would have beeen (be) water born creatures, but I do not underestimate the imagination of humans and at some point we need empirical evidence other than manmade evidence…..same argument I place on aliens…