Proof of a conspiracy

reply to post by hooper


Having a discussion with some of you OS supporters is impractical because a few of you can’t get pass the government word of authority. If the USA Government said the OS is true then some of you believe it is true and that is being patriotic in your mind. A few of you let the government tell you how to think, when to think, and tell you your eyes are lying to you. The fact is we know who the cheerleaders are in these 911 threads for the government version of the OS and apparently their job is to “enforce” the proven lies of the OS as we are seeing demonstrated in this thread.

reply to post by vipertech0596

Do you have evidence that all these witness were not forced to lie, since most were government military employees.

And this statement sums up the paranoia the truth movement suffers from. They were all either in on it or "forced to lie", which in and by itself is too goofy for words.

People in search for the truth are well a where that a few of you OS supporters are “want to be psychiatrist” specializing in the diagnosing of Truthers or anyone who dares speak out against the OS.
Prognoses are always “paranoia” delusional, “goofy” in their minds, don’t you agree?

Originally posted by impressme
reply to post by hooper

 

Having a discussion with some of you OS supporters is impractical because a few of you can’t get pass the government word of authority. If the USA Government said the OS is true then some of you believe it is true and that is being patriotic in your mind. A few of you let the government tell you how to think, when to think, and tell you your eyes are lying to you. The fact is we know who the cheerleaders are in these 911 threads for the government version of the OS and apparently their job is to “enforce” the proven lies of the OS as we are seeing demonstrated in this thread.

Let me ask you - do you think everything the government says is lie? Weather reports? Bridge safety limits? Or do you simply pick and choose when they are lying to protect your conspiracy fanatasies?

reply to post by hooper

Let me ask you - do you think everything the government says is lie? Weather reports? Bridge safety limits? Or do you simply pick and choose when they are lying to protect your conspiracy fanatasies?

Let me ask you, do you think everything the government says is the gospel truth? “Or do you simply pick and choose when they are lying to protect your OS fanatasies?” how does that work for you hooper?

reply to post by impressme

Let me ask you, do you think everything the government says is the gospel truth? “Or do you simply pick and choose when they are lying to protect your OS fanatasies?” how does that work for you hooper?

Unless I have direct evidence to the contrary I generally will accept the version of what others tell me, particularly when we are talking about things that I have no direct knowledge. I consider what is testable and what is and what is not knowable. Last and least I may consider if someone has some alterior motive that can be fulfilled by lying to me. But this path is full of pitfalls and deadends and I rarely engage in this behavior as it is the most counterproductive to knowing the truth. But it is the best avenue for protecting your own bias. Right?

reply to post by hooper

Unless I have direct evidence to the contrary I generally will accept the version of what others tell me, particularly when we are talking about things that I have no direct knowledge.

What other tells you? So hearsay from a government authority has more credibility than science that proves government is lying?

I consider what is testable and what is and what is not knowable.

What is not knowable concerning 911?

Last and least I may consider if someone has some alterior motive that can be fulfilled by lying to me.

Such as science? Government officials who spoke out against the OS? All Truthers?

But this path is full of pitfalls and deadends and I rarely engage in this behavior as it is the most counterproductive to knowing the truth.

You mean by denying the scientific evidences, eyewitness, and hurling insults to everyone who does not support your beliefs as you have been demonstrating in this thread.

Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by ANOK

 

You've never seen the end result when busted blades continue on into the "main" part of the engine?

What is the 'main part of the engine' lol?

There is really nothing inside but rotors (compressors) and then the combustion chamber. There is really nothing to destroy but rotor blades. The main casings stay intact, and so do the rotor hubs and shafts.

Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by ANOK

 

And your post shows why it is rather fruitless to discuss it with you. You complain that there isnt enough wreckage, in your eyes, to justify two RB-211 engines, and in the very next statement you pretty much say it would not matter if the pictures DID show what you were asking to see. It would be more " too convenient" photos...or photos taken in a boneyard.....

It's too convenient because the parts shown can be easily moved into place and photographed. Over 20 rotor hubs and the very heavy rotor shafts were just not photographed, or were they not there at all? It just adds more suspicion is all. If the parts were there they would have been photographed. Surely out of over 20 hubs more than one would have been photographed?

I have my suspicions and I'm sticking to them, unless someone can show me otherwise.

BTW if it's fruitless to discuss it with me then simply don't. You might be impressed with a few token engine parts, but sorry I'm not buying it.

reply to post by jaffer44


Hi.
The biggest and most prevalent fact of 9-11 being the result of a conspiracy is quite simply; how it was handled by those in charge to protect "US". They were having 'war-games' at the time. Sometimes the truth is in plane site.

Too many departments were caught with their pants down...and guess what rolls down hill that 'they' tried to flush.
In short, the Commission failed the people.

Why bother to include the sake of the victims' families? After-all, the commission wasn't part of the conspiracy until it got formed to provide answers to the families...to this day, it lacks integrity to put this to rest.

And that means bringing the false-flag perpe-traitors to justice.
"You're either with us or against us."

See the line in the sand?

Nice work how all you same characters come into this forum and prove your merit with the quality of dis information. You really should step up your game some, no?

There is far more evidence that points to an inside job than to the OS. Anyone that still believes that we were attacked by Al-Qaeda is evidence of how gullible people are. More evidence of this is when the government said Iraq was behind the attack and had WMDs. It was so obvious that Iraq wasn't involved, yet most Americans bought the story. Anyone still believe the government was telling the truth then? I hope the OS supporters at least can see that lie! How can OS supporters explain Building 7? What about the fake Osama videos the government put out? It is so obvious that isn't Osama, but since it was put out by the government, people bought that it was him. More proof of the government lying. Just a few samples of how people just believe what the government tells them. I bet the OS supports believe everything they hear in the news by the MSM also.. people are so gullible!

reply to post by ANOK


Well I wish you would make up your mind about jet engines. First you chastise because I said a plastic helmet destroyed a jet engine, that the engine DIDNT get destroyed. THEN when I suggest you have never seen what happens when shattered fan blades start impacting further back, you say there is nothing to destroy but the fan blades. Make up your mind.

reply to post by Infrasilent


I am portuguese, but I am much concern of what is going on in the World. 911 is one issue that must end with the truth. In my opinion a new investigation is urgent. Please consult this site: ae911truth.org...

Sorry for my bad english.

reply to post by jaffer44



The entire aircraft and it's contents evaporated upon impact ? Its another 911 First.
More Lies...



And even more relevant today are the resulting wars.....going on 10 years now....against an adversary with nary a tank/piece of armor let alone a Plane or an Air Force.
But guys donning turbans and AK47 .....and their heavy artillery....the infamous RPG ?
And we are unable to defeat them after 10 years now ?

More LIES.



We captured Bin Laden which was originally the justification for entering Afghanistan ......and he was "Buried at Sea" ?

More Lies...

Originally posted by jaffer44
building 7 was not hit by a plane it had very little structural damage and only a few small pockets of fire.

Sorry jaffer both statements about building 7 are totally wrong!

Building 7 got hit by a massive girder from one of the collapsing Twin towers causing huge damage to the southwest corner from the 8th to 18th floors causing a large vertical gash on the center-bottom extending at least ten floors.

As for those "small pockets of fire" .......this is just one of the "small pockets of fires"........looks pretty big to me!

And that's an awful lot of smoke don't you think!

edit on 10-6-2011 by Logical one because: (no reason given)

Building 7 got hit by a massive girder from one of the collapsing Twin towers causing huge damage to the southwest corner from the 8th to 18th floors causing a large vertical gash on the center-bottom extending at least ten floors.

Oh...I get it now...the penthouse first collapsed in Building 7 because the bulk of the damage was to the lower southwest corner of the building. Yeah sure, makes a lot of sense now...like two massive overdesigned skyscrapers with damage in different locations falling straight down due to some oxygen starved fires.

Thanks for clearing that up.

reply to post by jaffer44


Also at the Pentagon, the "airplane" that hit apparently flew inches off the ground and hit the pentagon....There are no tire marks from it touching the ground, if you watch the movie Loose Change...There are TONS of awesome information in it and it will really open your eyes to the actual events that happened and not what MSM told everyone!!

Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein Loose Change...There are TONS of awesome information in it and it will really open your eyes to the actual events that happened

"Loose Change"..........most if not all of "Loose Change" has been thoroughly debunked already!

reply to post by Logical one


There is nothing to debunk????? It is all just facts and sides of the story.....Watch it and then tell me it was debunked.....That statement makes no sense..

Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
reply to post by jaffer44

 

Also at the Pentagon, the "airplane" that hit apparently flew inches off the ground and hit the pentagon....There are no tire marks from it touching the ground, if you watch the movie Loose Change...There are TONS of awesome information in it and it will really open your eyes to the actual events that happened and not what MSM told everyone!!

Why would there be "tire marks" ? Who said AA 77's undercarriage was down ?

Instead of wasting your time on that amateur "loose Change" rubbish you could actually take the time to read about the decoding of AA 77's flight data recorder by people who knew what they were doing:-

www.journalof911studies.com...

Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein

There is nothing to debunk????? It is all just facts and sides of the story.....Watch it and then tell me it was debunked.....That statement makes no sense..

I've watched it, it's heavily edited to make people believe the 9/11 conspiracy theory, but most of the arguments in it have been debunked.

Let me know which arguments in "Loose Change" you think hold water.