Ancient Aliens Debunked?

Well nothing has been proven except that the Ancient Aliens show is a source of disinformation. It still does not mean that SOME of the old gods were not ET.

Originally posted by Akalamdug
Well nothing has been proven except that the Ancient Aliens show is a source of disinformation. It still does not mean that SOME of the old gods were not ET.

Conspiracists become paranoid and think everything in the world is setup even their bad day >_>

The Ancient Astro theory are just making a theory, giving a logical explanation to the Bible, what disinfo are you babbling about? That's what they think not because they want to disinform you..

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So what is your alternative theory to offer? If, in fact, there are no ancient aliens who imparted this knowledge to humans, and if there was no DNA splicing (the Missing Link), how do you think these heiroglyphs depicting flying machines, and the use of electricity come about? Did ancient civilisations just imagine all these things? are the Nazca lines a figment of someone's imagination? are the pyramids a figment of someone's imagination? Do tell...

Originally posted by kiwitina948
how do you think these heiroglyphs depicting flying machines

There are no hieroglyphs depicting flying machines.

Originally posted by kiwitina948
and the use of electricity come about?

What electricity? You mean since the late 1800s? The use of electricity since then is well documented and has nothing to do with aliens.

Originally posted by kiwitina948
Did ancient civilisations just imagine all these things?

Of course. The ancestors had powerful imaginations and were no less intelligent than us. Or perhaps you think humans cannot create works of art unless they first experience them best hand; the below picture depict a real event then, right/.

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Originally posted by kiwitina948
are the Nazca lines a figment of someone's imagination?

No, humans built them.

Originally posted by kiwitina948
are the pyramids a figment of someone's imagination? Do tell...

No, humans built them.

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So what is your alternative theory to offer?

My alternative? I suppose you could call it mainstream history based on actual science and archeology. I prefer to follow solid evidence to a logical conclusion.

how do you think these heiroglyphs depicting flying machines, and the use of electricity come about?

There are no heiroglyphs that show flying machines. There's an ancient typo on one wall with a glyph that looks like a helicopter if you use your imagination. And there's a large plant that is claimed (without any evidence) to be a giant lightbulb (even though it is clearly a plant). Those "came about" because people see what they want to see.

Tell me what exactly would an alien be doing with a helicopter? They've mastered interstellar travel but they need helicopters? Gimme a break.

Did ancient civilisations just imagine all these things?

I imagine you're referring to religions, gods and myths. Of course they imagined it, and they used these stories to explain a mysterious world. The scientific method hadn't been developed so myths and legends are filled with allegories and morals and often helped explain the unexplained. The Tower of Babel in the Bible is a great example, it serves as an explanation for where all the different languages of the world came from. Of course real events did sometimes intrude, such as the regional Sumerian flood that went on to inspire Noah's flood and the flood story from the epic of Gilgamesh.

are the pyramids a figment of someone's imagination?

WTH are you talking about? The pyramids are obviously real. What do they have to do with aliens?

And for the record I don't need to present any alternative, the burden of proof rest on those making a positive claim, those who disbelieve hold no burden of proof.

its just a show guys! its entertainment! i don't care if its real or not its fun to watch.
it does open some "ideas" but that's it "ideas" there is never truce with out manipulation involved!
some one spinning the truce there way. look at the bible! makes no since to the non believers.
but to the believers it makes since! there is always going to be war over science and magic.

sorry if i am not making since i need to go to bed! 3:47am

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Hiya Eroutt, you make a fair point that the show is just entertainment. Where it annoys some of us is in the way the producers try and slide it across as something truthful when they know damn well they're making a lot of it up.

You'll notice that your stars have suddenly gone up from zero? I've gone and starred some of your posts in case you were beginning to think that ATSers were ignoring you. I'm impressed that you carried on posting when nobody stopped by to say hello, star or reply to a post. I'd have quit!

I hope you get to share in the discussions much more in future and folk give you the time of day.

All the best

Originally posted by AdamsMurmur
I'm skeptical of AA but I will keep an open mind.


But not this open:

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edit on 4/6/11 by AdamsMurmur because: pic lol

I did indeed laugh out loud when I saw that picture. I love watching the Ancient Aliens series, my husband and I always watch for how flipped out that guys hair will be.

That's just totally hilarious!

I haven't the slightest idea what the image is meant to represent. I'm no Egyptologist however I'm pretty sure it's not a giant lightbulb because those folks holding it up would be burning themselves ...
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Similar to how Tesla burned himself when holding his lighting?

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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There is a difference between what scientific research does and what AAT believers do. When a scientist performs research they do have a result they are expecting, but this is based on previous research that would lead a scientist to believe that their hypothesis is the most likely outcome. When von Daniken created AAT he started at the position that his conclusion was true and then did his research to support it.

You make an assumption von Daniken had no prior research? He states his initial questions were prompted by his research in religious writings. He then went on to do more research into physical remnants and other areas. What is the difference?

the light bulb could be off? i don't think thy would be that stupid!

youtu.be...

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if it was a light bulb anyway?

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i think it has something to do with Banishing of Apep look it up on wiki.

Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by eroutt

 

Hiya Eroutt, you make a fair point that the show is just entertainment. Where it annoys some of us is in the way the producers try and slide it across as something truthful when they know damn well they're making a lot of it up.

You'll notice that your stars have suddenly gone up from zero? I've gone and starred some of your posts in case you were beginning to think that ATSers were ignoring you. I'm impressed that you carried on posting when nobody stopped by to say hello, star or reply to a post. I'd have quit!

I hope you get to share in the discussions much more in future and folk give you the time of day.

All the best

I am unsure what the producers have "made up." They look at the current archaeological sites and they offer "explanations," for what they see...their analysis...people are free to make up their own minds as to what conclusions they draw from what they see...Although I would seriously question how anyone who looks at the stone carvings and some of the art in Egypt and does not conclude beyond certainty they are looking at, for example, a helicopter, is beyond me...there is no doubt that is a helicopter...to say otherwise is either sheer ignorance or being purposefully obtuse...

Originally posted by jeichelberg

Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by eroutt

 

Hiya Eroutt, you make a fair point that the show is just entertainment. Where it annoys some of us is in the way the producers try and slide it across as something truthful when they know damn well they're making a lot of it up.

You'll notice that your stars have suddenly gone up from zero? I've gone and starred some of your posts in case you were beginning to think that ATSers were ignoring you. I'm impressed that you carried on posting when nobody stopped by to say hello, star or reply to a post. I'd have quit!

I hope you get to share in the discussions much more in future and folk give you the time of day.

All the best

I am unsure what the producers have "made up." They look at the current archaeological sites and they offer "explanations," for what they see...their analysis...people are free to make up their own minds as to what conclusions they draw from what they see...Although I would seriously question how anyone who looks at the stone carvings and some of the art in Egypt and does not conclude beyond certainty they are looking at, for example, a helicopter, is beyond me...there is no doubt that is a helicopter...to say otherwise is either sheer ignorance or being purposefully obtuse...

There is another thread featuring the videos "The Revelations of the Pyramids" (parts 1-7). One of these explains the so-called 'flying machine' hieroglyphics (depicting what looks like a helicopter) in that it is an inscription which was made over an older inscription which, over time, has worn through leaving what is seen today. Most of these have been highlighted or photo-shopped to emphasize the helicopter shape but, even though I am a believer in ET's having visited this planet in ancient times, this is sadly not an authentic hieroglyph I'm afraid.

Originally posted by jeichelberg
Although I would seriously question how anyone who looks at the stone carvings and some of the art in Egypt and does not conclude beyond certainty they are looking at, for example, a helicopter, is beyond me...there is no doubt that is a helicopter...to say otherwise is either sheer ignorance or being purposefully obtuse...

Just the opposite, it is sheer ignorance and purposefully obtuse to assume that it is a helicopter simply because it appears to be a helicopter in the face of all the evidence it is not. For instance, a hieroglyph was not simply a pretty picture, they were letters and words. The text of the Abydos would not make sense. This one top of the fact not another single "helicopter" hieroglyph can be cited nor is there any evidence in a single Egyptian text they witnessed helicopters.

But if you insist that the hieroglyphs depicts a helicopter, please tell us what the text says. Perhaps you could also tell us why aliens available to cross the distances between stars would require primitive modes of transportation such as helicopters.

Originally posted by WingedBull

But if you insist that the hieroglyphs depicts a helicopter, please tell us what the text says. Perhaps you could also tell us why aliens available to cross the distances between stars would require primitive modes of transportation such as helicopters.

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That's one of the laughable of "Ancient Astronomers" theories, paintings and trinkets of "Helicopters" and "Planes" being uncovered......... so the conclusion.........it must be ET.
Yeah ET thousands of years more advanced than 21st century man is going to make primitive helicopters and planes!

Giorgio A. Tsoukalos (he with the funny hair!) laughable tried to link Chinese depictions of fire breathing dragons to aliens.......suggesting that ancient earthlings mistook ET rockets with dragons........Giorgio even suggested that the rockets would look similar to the one that blasted the Apollo missions off the Earth.
Now would highly advanced aliens be travelling in fuel burning rockets like Apollo..........if they did they would never ever get to Earth in the first place as they would be way way too slow to traverse the type of distances involved......not to mention the impossible amount of combustion fuel needed to make the trip.

So if you do happen to see planes, helicopters, and rockets in ancient artwork then it's NOT ET!

i believe we are being prepared for E.T.
i also believe they are already here.

This is fact for me idk about you.

I like to sum it up by saying that theorists are constantly looking for answers and explanations. These so called "debunkers" are assuming they know the answers. Once you assume all knowledge of a subject you have sacrificed critical thinking. One poster said critical thinking was completely dismissing a possibility, it's actually the opposite.

Same with religion, those who believe are assuming they know there is a god. Faith is an assumption. Those who don't believe are waiting for an answer.

One final note, Giorgio Tsoukalos is from Switzerland. Why wouldn't he have an accent? It's not fake. I seriously think some people dismiss everything he says because he appears so eccentric.

Originally posted by Metal Head

One final note, Giorgio Tsoukalos is from Switzerland. Why wouldn't he have an accent? It's not fake. I seriously think some people dismiss everything he says because he appears so eccentric.

Well Giorgio Tsoukalos assertion that Chinese Dragons were in fact Apollo type rockets is pretty silly.....by any standards!

Originally posted by RA777
i believe we are being prepared for E.T.

This notion that we are being "prepared for ET" is a strange one!

Invading aliens have been the subject of movies, books and tv for 60 years or me.........how much "preparation" is needed?

And even when whoever is "preparing" us finally decides we've been fully "prepared" would we react any differently?