TV Executives in Hollywood admit to pushing Liberal Agenda

Originally posted by TDawgRex
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I like the way you think, though I don't always agree. I believe that we would be great neighbors though. Beer, BBQ and lively debates.

Agreements are overrated. I prefer a lively debate with opposing ideas to make one think over endless "yup" comments. however, debate and beer rarely mix...without someone using a pool stick as a katana in the end anyhow

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Just one word. THINK!

I really don't get the hatred. Be yourself and allow others to be themselves.

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Yea, I've seen it before, but I moderate my intake. And i never take offense to the other persons stance, unless it turns into a personal attack that has no relevance to the conversation. At that point, I thank them for their time and move on.

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Here's a brief list of all those liberal leaning shows Hollywood has given us over the years from those American-hating liberal gay-promoting Jews; just look at this list of anti-American shows, it's despicable;

...
Lassie
etc., etc., etc...

Actually: Lassie got angry letters once for showing too much sex (When she had puppies)
Also the idea of the leading characters having to listen and understand their subordinate, could be viewed as something socialist

I know someone. And they're liberal and they really like a program on the tv. And the guy in the show is gay so he's obviously liberal too...take a stand America

I just want to see good storytelling and good acting in a movie. I get bored of both the conservative agenda that has to show guns and tough guys in every movie and of the liberal agenda that has to show transsexuals and oppressed people in every movie. Whatever happened to just making good movies, without any agenda in mind? It seems like 99% of the movies are filled with political propaganda these days.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
It seems like 99% of the movies are filled with political propaganda these days.

edit on 2-6-2011 by Skyfloating because: (no reason given)

Only if you want to see it.

a better question is, why is political views and agendas on 99% of things in life is a better question.

a liberal can be a gun fan, a conservative can be caring about the whales..what is the true travesty is how we have taken simple life views and turned them into political viewpoints.

Who the hell with half a brain doesn't want to save a whale if possible? how is that a anything view beyond just a humanitarian view.

meh

this thread is sort of funny

the fact is the liberal agenda is pushed by "actors" by people who get paid to make you believe they are something they are not.

modern day television to be blunt sucks and in film and in real life a bleeding heart liberal always runs to a conservative to save their butts.

art imitates real life.

the liberal agenda is touchy feely disfunctional bs gay or transexual thats what they push and if liberals were really liberal what goes in the bedroom is the individuals own business it does not need to be glorified by "name your show".


family value shows are rare these days the days of the magnum pis and even macygver his character didnt beleive in the use of guns so please dont call mcgyver a conservative show

hell even magnum pi was a slacker living in a rich dudes place hints of liberlism and richard dean anderson went on to startgate sg-1 one a the actor played a dude who didnt believe in gun to a elite special operator whose motto was there was no problem a nuke or a gun couldnt solve.

the same with 24 with that liberal chic that calls republicans racist and blah blah blah.

hollywood and television in america is serverly lacking in quality and storytelling not to mention most american television and film is shot in canada these days and thats not an insult to canada..


i highly suggest that people start need to watching more foreign media to put american television and film into perspective.

only in hollywood and in this country today to people beleive everything they see on tv and never give much thought to the agendas being pushed on them because people just do not know how to think anymore

Originally posted by neo96
this thread is sort of funny

the fact is the liberal agenda is pushed by "actors" by people who get paid to make you believe they are something they are not.

modern day television to be blunt sucks and in film and in real life a bleeding heart liberal always runs to a conservative to save their butts.

art imitates real life.

the liberal agenda is touchy feely disfunctional bs gay or transexual thats what they push and if liberals were really liberal what goes in the bedroom is the individuals own business it does not need to be glorified by "name your show".


family value shows are rare these days the days of the magnum pis and even macygver his character didnt beleive in the use of guns so please dont call mcgyver a conservative show

the same with 24 with that liberal chic that calls republicans racist and blah blah blah.

hollywood and television in america is serverly lacking in quality and storytelling not to mention most american television and film is shot in canada these days and thats not an insult to canada..


i highly suggest that people start need to watching more foreign media to put american television and film into perspective.

edit on 2-6-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

Can we stop using the L word? Liberals are about as liberal as neo-cons are conservative.

Outside of that, you're right. Our media industry sucks and there certainly are agenda's being pushed. Not all agenda's are bad mind you, but say with Law and Order where they practically glorify abuse of authority by police.

The last two worthwhile shows with thought put into them (Caprica, Rubicon) got cancelled so it shows the amount of thought (i.e none) needed to create successful shows.

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a great story goes beyond sex,race,religion you name it and yes some agendas are bad.

lets take magnum pi i was young and impressionable when that first started airing.

i had my hawaiian shirt and my fake pi license and i thought it would be cool to be living in "robins nest"

not having a real job and taking "borrowing" whatever i wanted and drive a nice car "ferrari" like magnum did

hell i wanted to be exactly like him.

now years later i understand the truth of it all sit back and have someone else do everything else for me while i sit on my couch and be a bum.

so yeah some agendas are bad does that sound familar on whats being pushed and by those l-word.

the truth hurts.

Originally posted by satron
I can see that. Talk radio has a right wing slant, although slant isn't strong enough.

Not all talk radio, only Conservative talk radio. There is Liberal talk radio, but you never hear about it because no one listens to it. The difference is that talk radio is up front about their agenda, whereas Hollywood TV and movies are not.

Originally posted by unicomsol
Wait...so the guy behind mcguyver and america's funniest home videos, when asked his opinion about hollywood's liberal bias, said he is ok with it speaks for hollywood in its entirety?

heh

(actually, McGyver always seemed to be pushing a conservative agenda...all that survivalist stuff...)

Here is the truth. hollywood pushes stuff that the public reacts to. I remember the neocons were up in arms about the movie Avatar. Well, if that movie was from a conservative perspective...say, written in the spirit of Ayn Rand, it would have been a story about mighty earth warriors that removed the pests of a planet and paved the forest into a shopping center/industrial complex. perhaps kept a few of the blue guys around to serve us.

you know...people probably wouldn't have enjoyed that version as much.

Conservative entertainment is not very interesting, fun, or deep. so far, there is a small handful of good conservative message movies..not from lack of stuff out there, just from the fact that theres very little messaging and depth that can be made from it.

Red Dawn.
Forrest Gump
And 300
erm...actually, thats all that comes to mind.
Some say that Ghostbusters was a conservative movie also (private sector solving a solution and the EPA causing more trouble than good). however, I would point out it was about supernatural elements, pagen gods, and they hired a minority without need...so, would give this a independent entertainment stamp

)

Point is, conservative entertainment is..well...typically boring. the movie Atlas Shrugged (based on the Rand book) did very poorly. hollywood is about making money in the end.

it's not just the AFV guy, there are several videos with several different directors and producers, The AFV guy is just one of many examples.

Originally posted by SpectreDC
The last two worthwhile shows with thought put into them (Caprica, Rubicon) got cancelled so it shows the amount of thought (i.e none) needed to create successful shows.

Caprica, Stargate Universe, The Event, V

smart and deep sci-fi

in place, we got more wrestling, cooking shows, antique shows, reality shows, more reality shows, yuckfest slapstick comedy...grrrrrr

the event and V were not on sci-fi (syfy)...initially my hopes would have been for the scifi (syfy) network to purchase these shows...but syfy is no longer sci-fi...they are cancelling all quality and instead targetting the most mundane of minds...wrestling...really?

I give up. the new networks for people wanting substance will be online venues supported by click ads and commercials, and perhaps even donations. The network dinosaurs are now focusing completely on the low range IQs of the world and have abandoned the idea of quality. I think a movement should start to unite the high end thinkers and create a online channel for fantastic science fiction shows. a donations and advertising fueled hybrid focused for the online community...make it a new trend and toss away the cable companys in time.

Hulu may be onto something here.

Originally posted by unicomsol
a liberal can be a gun fan, a conservative can be caring about the whales..what is the true travesty is how we have taken simple life views and turned them into political viewpoints.

Who the hell with half a brain doesn't want to save a whale if possible? how is that a anything view beyond just a humanitarian view.

meh

You're right. We`ve been programmed to see in stereotypes. "He likes guns. He must be a conservative. He likes whales. He must be a liberal". I know its utter rubbish...but a lot of people...including the film industry...operate by these stereotypical scripts.

2 more shows with a heavy liberal agenda were battlestar galactica and stargate universe.

battlestar galacitca written by ron moore was ripped straight out of the headlines and twisted everyone to be dysfunctional crybabies. i could make a thread on that one alone.

stargate universe

1 madman self absorbed conceited and arrogant who will do anything to save his own butt
1 cheating husband who knocks up his mistress
1 fat kid smarter than the madman
1 hispanic dude with father issues
1 "soldier" who goes around thinking with is you know what.
1 senators daughter who also had father issues.
1 lesbian in space
etc.

people open your eyes at whats being force fed to you.

It's hard to push a conservative agenda when most storylines rely on the concept of doing the right thing, being tolerant toward others, doing unto others as you would have them do unto you... That sort of thing...

Also, it's much more difficult to sell a pro-racist, pro-hate, pro-fear script to Hollywood... People don't want to see it.

maybe hollywood and the left need to be more tolerant to the right.

wheres that positive message?

oh but i forgot every single person on the right are just stupid racist redknecks the last thing they are in this country are people.

people decry the right of bigotry and yet the left are one of the biggest group of bigots in this country.

no wait i get it doesnt matter what the left push the right just cant get their message out.

Originally posted by neo96
2 more shows with a heavy liberal agenda were battlestar galactica and stargate universe.

battlestar galacitca written by ron moore was ripped straight out of the headlines and twisted everyone to be dysfunctional crybabies. i could make a thread on that one alone.

You got a problem with BSG, you got a problem with me!!! now, leave BSG the frack alone!

Besides, the "message" behind BSG was mixed...you could get just as much super neocon messaging out of it as any even slightly liberal messaging...(same with SGU).

BSG: A group of survivalists put their trust in military solutions to save the collective arses of the human race. The problem started when a bunch of liberal big government technocrats decided to become a lazy socialism and allow for computers to do all the work. the computers, being anti-religious machines, took over and slaughtered the faithful.

the concept of "god" by the cylons was not cosmic at all, but rather the internet (as shown in Caprica). the one true god was basically the intelligence cloud..they made themselves as extensions of god verses seeking some supernatural element...the physical was god.

I could go on and on about "conservative" messages of the show...however, whats the point. BSG was just quality programming that somehow lasted for years before getting the axe. It had the intellectual merit to put the plotlines in, but knew the knuckledraggers needed explosions, so put alot of that in also...Caprica focused on the intellect and therefore failed...same with The Event, SGU, and V. Sadly, there is no room for intelligent progrmming on television. The internet needs some television stations, then maybe quality programming can continue.

So say we all!

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Are you just posting to argue? Seriously, a nice discussion was going on and in comes the self proclaimed conservative to cry into the soup. Left/right paradigm is dead, man. The tv has a button called POWER. Push it if all this creativity doesn't fit within your strict guidelines of personal freedom.

To be honest I think this whole thing is nonsense and TV Execs are still lying.

It is not a "Liberal" agenda that they are pushing, it is a "Globalist" agenda that they are pushing. By admitting that they promote a "Liberal" Agenda, it just fans the flames of the Liberal vs Conservative silliness that we see every election year which is what causes people to actually miss all the big issues (such as the economy, stripping of our rights and things that affect all of us no matter if you are conservative or liberal) in favor of arguing over guns and abortion. Wouldn't you know it? This "admission" comes out just as we are coming up on an election year. What a coincidence. It is also a coincidence that for decades they would never admit such a thing, now several TV execs are admitting it at the same time? Spare me. Ray Charles can see this is all BS.