The quiet before the storm. Just so you can't say that you werent warned.

Originally posted by queenofsheba
It has to do with faith. You see by faith, not by sight. I suppose it could sound like a riddle, especially for those that don't understand the concept of faith. It's something you believe in, not something that can be proven.

Believing in things that are unproven is often an unwise choice.
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WOW,just WOW........ I know I am violating T&C but WOW....Is he really serious?????

Originally posted by Hijaqd

Originally posted by john124
As soon as you mentioned god I stopped reading, and I'm guessing most other readers will as well.

You sir are correct, and no offense to any other posters after this one from john124 no matter how enlightened they may be, but I am now also done reading this thread as well.

No real use for pages and pages of yeah God and no there's not God, if you need affirmation go to church or whatever chosen place of worship. You'll like it, they'll agree with you there instead of frustrating you with no win arguments.

one is surtain that aliens exist ,
yet whenever the word holy gets acounted to dimensional beings,
people turn around and hide ,
why ?
if u still believe chance created our immortal souls , u might be amazed of the work and beauty that went into it , to turn away from what gave u life in the first place
is not only cruel towards that being, ,
it is cruel to ourselfs,
the only thing that being asks for is to see him as he really is
not as you believe him to be

Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by queenofsheba
It has to do with faith. You see by faith, not by sight. I suppose it could sound like a riddle, especially for those that don't understand the concept of faith. It's something you believe in, not something that can be proven.

Believing in things that are unproven is often an unwise choice.
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Or not, depends on what it is. Sometimes you have to go with instinct, what feels right.

reply to post by yets777


to turn away from what gave u life in the first place


depending how you see this or what your beliefs are, but my parents 2 consenting adults gave me life not "god" and my grand parents from what i know were consenting adults that gave life to my parents not "god" its biological science not rocket science

Originally posted by light_circle

Thx for sharing, OP. I don't know if I understand really what the core of your message is. But here's my two cents anyway...

The question was asked, "If we could give our freewill back to God, would we do it?"

I don't know, maybe? I view everything has One source, and is One, and freewill is just part of this 'game' we play as entities. If we give up our freewill, then I think everything goes back to the state of Oneness, thus concepts of
'right' and wrong', 'winners' and losers', and all other dualities just disappear, because everything is One.

I would argue, where's the fun in that? Now.. what would be cool, I think, is if we can still reunite with that state of Oneness w/o having to surrender freewill. If we can learn (or perhaps even, forget?) how to live rightfully, we may find our way back into Oneness.

Then there's the matter of Choice. Like.. if I arrive at a crossroads, and there is a choice between right or left. If I choose to go right (or left) is that a freewill choice or not? If I flip a coin to decide which way to turn, is that a freewill choice or is it not? Ultimately, does it matter which way I choose? Well, to a man going to a dinner party o a women going to a business meeting, it probably would matter quite a bit (at least, it appears that way to them at that moment in time.) Though, what is the Big Picture? I think we are occluded to that, to the design of the plan, and our Freewill choices many of the times are merely guesses as to what would the "right" thing to do in this or that situation be.
So. The general idea I am trying to convey is that ultimately, freewill is an illusion, and we all as individualized portions of the Godhead (or whatever deity/deities you acknowledge) have willingly forgotten our true potentials. We have essentially blinded ourselves so that we may play a game.
Just my thoughts..

indeed we have crippled , blinded and numbed ourselfs
because we got dissconnected from that source ,
we are endlessly searching in every corner for it ,

Originally posted by john124
reply to post by Brianegan

 

It really is no loss whatsoever to an atheist to not listen to another rant by a believer....

People will more often blame humans for problems, and not the clouds.

well said, thats exactly what i was thinking...and as soon as u said i found god i thought here we go again.
i will say good effort though, i must say,
doesnt this thread break tnc rules, i may be wrong...dave

Originally posted by fordizzl3
S+F

Interesting read. Don't agree with everything you have said but hey its all opinionated anyway

good effort!

Peace!

glad u like it to surtain amount , could u agree with this?www.abovetopsecret.com... peace

Originally posted by queenofsheba

Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by queenofsheba
It has to do with faith. You see by faith, not by sight. I suppose it could sound like a riddle, especially for those that don't understand the concept of faith. It's something you believe in, not something that can be proven.

Believing in things that are unproven is often an unwise choice.
..

Or not, depends on what it is. Sometimes you have to go with instinct, what feels right.

Intuition may be valid for simple, inconsequential things. However, when it comes to religions (which affects one's thoughts and behavior), following a gut feeling can lead one into trouble.

Originally posted by bigdaddy7ftr
reply to post by Brianegan

 

I enjoyed the read...Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. It was certainly a refreshing viewpoint, yet when I look at what is at the heart of the same teachings I have followed, they are remarkably similar.

I also do not consider myself to be a part of major religions...but I do follow a blend of Eastern teachings, including Christianity (yes that was originally Eastern as well).

I have followed the teachings of Self Realization Fellowship now for some time (Paramahansa Yogananda), as it gave me the best path (personally) to experience GOD here on Earth...What can I say, the meditation and yogic techniques worked for me...and while I am in no way "Enlightened" or "Awakened" etc.., I have certainly experienced GOD first-hand because of them.

I just wanted to say that as far as I can tell, your beliefs are actually at the very core of the same beliefs I hold and the same teachings I follow. So yes, I think you are definitely onto something with your message. Of course, others will disagree, and that is their "free will" to do so...As long as your beliefs satisfy you that is all that ultimately matters.

indeed , and it does not matter what religion , it is only about our connection to the source and how we perceive it

Originally posted by berilium
reply to post by Brianegan

 

some interesting theory ...

It's basically the same as saying you are god. My opinion is that we simply can't describe what we use the word "God" for. In other words, you can't put a word on it because that would limit it.

Free will is the key, you see thought creates reality because reality is thought; a single waveform encompassing all points at all times, a hologram if you will.

only if u wish it to be limited ,
many have a different image of what the word god means

reply to post by traditionaldrummer


Perhaps, yes that can be true. I do see your point. Yet again, it all boils down to free will and choice. Thinking for yourself and making decisions that remain true to your beliefs is important. There are those that let others think for them and make decisions for them, I think therein lies the danger. Though I will say I disagree with you on the point that instinct/intuition only has to do with inconsequential things.

Originally posted by Eshel
I see the words "free will" and it makes me think. How many times have those that say god's gift to man was free will turn around and scream that (wo)man does not have freedom of choice ?
Just a random thought ... carry on

free will has been the biggest illusion ever
if it leaves us searching for millions of years
searching for something we lost

reply to post by queenofsheba


There is a real hijacking/hack of the matrix involved. It involves the Moon or the False Light, Venus plays a part.
Both the moon and venus ring like a bell and have no magnetic poles, seem more like crafts than anything. The moon is interestingly enough the perfect size to block the sun in an eclipse and it filters or hacks the photons we receive from the Input System, or Projector for the school, the Sunlight streaming in of which we're all rays.

The hack means that the photons affect our reptilian brain and keep us in more fear based and fight or flight mode behavior, and also the separation of the two hemispheres of the brain (we need to build that bridge between them) and some dna work.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

My last research on my thread about the codes in the language, some more videos put out by someone very well researched.

What the goal really is, Love, Harming No One, Yeshua is a wonderful model for this, Budda too. However, to wake up, to activate our energy centers and our pineal/Crystal/Christ, to see through the matrix and overcome the HACKs and develop real connections within.

Free Will is a term I never understood really Our souls know this, we're either Free or Slaves. Being able to see clearly invovles free will, or making choices. We can choose. We don't have to follow bad orders, we can stand still.

reply to post by OldCorp
all we live by is constantly on the balancingscale: good/evil, right/wrong , yes/no
there is allso another way to do it
just be
just know
just do

Originally posted by SmokeYBoneS
Wow, I might have missed something, but this was such a good post, that I actually logged in and felt compelled to contribute. Everything you said was spot on. I feel exactly the same way, and have tried to put into words everything you have said, for the past 3 or so years. When you say you dont support any one religion, I understand what you mean. I am very faithful, but I don't proclaim to be "Christian".

I also can relate to what you describe as being a "Journey". Yes, that is certainly what it is, and it is up to us to pack our bags, and head out on our own journey. Some people dont, but I have no problem with that, it is their choice, and even if it is right or wrong, I am happy that they have the power to make them.

I understand for the most part what you were writing about, as I feel the same way on most everything you said. But, I will tell you one of the most painful, and important things I learned on my journey was this: The wisdom you recieve from God cannot be transferred to another through the medium of langauge. We must go to him personally to recieve it. I could go on, but like I said, language isn't the medium for relaying such knowledge. I hope you understand what I mean, and I hope you never stop learning.

some people were good enough at explaining it ,
the legends claim at least there were such people ,
only there has been alot transformed to there stories,
but yes u need to feel love first before u can develop it

Originally posted by queenofsheba
Perhaps, yes that can be true. I do see your point. Yet again, it all boils down to free will and choice. Thinking for yourself and making decisions that remain true to your beliefs is important. There are those that let others think for them and make decisions for them, I think therein lies the danger. Though I will say I disagree with you on the point that instinct/intuition only has to do with inconsequential things.

Wait. I didn't claim that "instinct/intuition only has to do with inconsequential things", only that following instinct would usually be okay in such circumstances. However, following a gut feeling with religious belief is unwise. If one of your family members thought it felt right to believe in and worship, say, invisible pixies in their oven... you might rightfully try to persuade them that following their feeling on this matter may not be the best route.

Originally posted by ShadowZion

Originally posted by St Udio

Originally posted by john124
As soon as you mentioned god I stopped reading, and I'm guessing most other readers will as well.

 

It was at that point...
But the way i read the first 3 paragraphs
was that the author thought that the only way to conduct life choices is to say 'What would Jesus Do'
and to behave accordingly...

i say # that!...i myself know whats right/good/proper...and even when under the gun, when circumstances are so dire that life & death hag in the balance... I'm not going to immerse myself in a sustained inner dialogue and try to concieve just ''What Would Jesus Do, Now?'


dear author, rationalize all you want... i expect that your calling will be among the 'martyred'...
whether its ones higher-self, a outside higher power, god or God (as the case may be)...



one bob dylan song used the refrain Trust Yourself.......
and nobody else

edit on 1-6-2011 by St Udio because: (no reason given)

but you must bear in mind that bob dylan has admittedly said that he sold his soul to the devil, so take that in mind when taking quotes or song titles from any modern day or not so modern day pop artists.

if you dont believe me go and do your own research and i can tell you i am not lying because i have seen the interview with him when he admits it, from his mouth through the microphone, through my speakers, into my ears into my conscious.

peace

what u see as the devil is still at service to the source ,
it is we who choose to bind ourselfs

Originally posted by manticorex5
ummmm this is not even a prediction......... who gave this post stars???

the ones who were willing to see what it was wort

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that avatar states so many wrong things , that i cannot find the humour in it either