1979 Video Of National Broadcast- Pittsburgh Daylight UFO'S At Football Game - 52,000 Stadium Atten

Thanx for all the suggestions about what they could be.

You know there was something slightly different about they way the objects appeared between the 2 purchased videos. I noticed it immediately. Something about the refractility. So I am posting the original and poorer quality slow motion vid. Just so you can see it too.

I don't think these are kites, even though they certainly resemble rotor kites. I've taken a screen grab of the objects and reduced the brightness and contrast into negative numbers. If there was a string you would expect to see some indication of it.


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Originally posted by coop039

Originally posted by NightFlight

Originally posted by Cryptonomicon
There are some observations we can make that go against the "spinning kite" theory:

1. The 2 separate objects are moving through the sky in formation
   
2. If it were 2 spinning kites, they wouldn't "fly together" in formation
   
3. The video is good quality - there are NO KITE STRINGS to be seen
   
4. The photos and videos of example spinning kites all have clearly visible kite strings
   

First, stars and a flag to the OP!

Now, Cryptonomicon beat me to the obvious, which is no kite string(s) visible. If the wind were spinning those, the loading would be tremendous and the string would be of a very high tensile strength which equates to larger diameter string (or cord, fishing line, etc.) making the string even more visible.

The camera angle looked to be between 40 and 60 degrees or maybe higher and the zoom indicated (a guess) about one to two miles away which would have put it at about 1500 to 3000 ft high. Now if any one has flown a kite before, they know that the kite will only support just so much string weight. Too far up and the kite just won't go any higher. Also, the wind currents loading the string will make the kite act goofy.

The thing(s) do look tethered, but to what or with what, I haven't a clue. Can anything be found out about what happened to them after the game? Did they disappear or were they hauled down?

Good Job, Elouina!

You obviously dont know much about kites or kite line.

I know that the technology to make kites and kite line has vastly improved in the last 20 years. 32 years, meh, I'm not so sure.

Originally posted by nanochicken
I don't think these are kites, even though they certainly resemble rotor kites. I've taken a screen grab of the objects and reduced the brightness and contrast into negative numbers. If there was a string you would expect to see some indication of it.


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edit on 1-6-2011 by nanochicken because: (no reason given)

I wonder, too, if they are not some kind of airfoil hauled through the air by a small aircraft. They do seem to be moving to the left at a nominal speed.

Originally posted by NightFlight
The video looked pretty good to me and my computer handled it quite well.

Something tells me you know next to nothing about computer graphics.

Are you aware that most video in 1979 was analog right? That analog video then had to be converted to digital in order to put it onto a computer. That conversion means there was a loss of data, and that caused the video to become blurry. Best case scenario would mean whoever uploaded the video had the original analog video tape from the game... but that is probably not what happened. The video was probably recorded from a TV signal over the air, which also has some data loss in the process, but that is debatable.

Then when they uploaded that digital video to YouTube it applied compression which is also more loss of data.

Also...it is IMPOSSIBLE for a string which would be smaller than a single pixel to show up on digital video. After compression the string would be invisible because the pixels that contain the string would be filled with the color of the sky. A pixel can only be one color... If the string was smaller than the pixel, then the pixel would not be the color of the string, it would be the color of the sky surrounding it...

oooh nevermind... something tells me you won't understand any of this anyway.

Originally posted by NightFlight
Always remember to keep an open mind, but not so much your brain falls out.

I think your brain fell out.

Originally posted by NightFlight
BTW, Whats your agenda?

Truth.

I only had time to read the opening post but I wanted to make a quik comment about the objects in the video. To me they appear to be tethered together and are spinning/rotating in the wind high above the dome. So for me that says its possibly some decoration or sign of fanfare for the game. Pittsburgh and Dallas always had a huge rivalry and it wouldnt be unreasnonable that some manner of festive decorations might have been put up and perhaps got away from where they were fettered to their original location. but thats just me...Ill read the other comments when I can get back.

Originally posted by nanochicken
If there was a string you would expect to see some indication of it.

...are you guys joking? Or did I some how jump to an alternate reality where nobody knows anything about computer graphics?

You are looking at a video that was analog converted to digital and then compressed for YouTube, the string would be so small that it would never survive that data loss, let alone be visible in the first place. You can't show something on video that is smaller than a pixel, it will become invisible.

Please, learn something about computer graphics before making such illogical remarks.

Reply to NightFlight:

I was using lines in the early 80's that was a spectra blend capable of dozens of twists when using dual or quad lines, the lines would twist together on top and around each other, and it was very slick so when you pulled there was no friction. And this was line rated at 150lbs for 120 feet. So for a line that only needs to support the light pull of a small single line kite, and not cross another line it could twist literally for thousands and thousands of times of times, especially at a length of 150-300 feet. And it would be much thinner. Go Walgreens and buy a 200 foot roll of their cheap kite string($3 or so). Go home, tie one end to something and unroll it all the way. Now, take the untied end and secure it in the end of a cordless drill. pull the line snug, and turn on the drill. It will twist for a long time. And thats cheap string. A quality kite line will twist much longer.

Honestly, what has happened to this site? It seems people are just wanting stuff to be SO badly that they wont DENY IGNORANCE.

If there were REALLY UFOS at this game, and people commented or saw them, they would have stopped play. And everyone in the stadium would have looked up.

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Sigh, not another ballon video.

Every time I give my hopes up and every time I am disappointed.

I'm never going to see a real UFO, sure avrocars are flying saucers but completely human made.

A real alien ship would make you crap your pants, you wouldn't even understand how it was working. Just looks like a bunch of floating structutres connects with glowing lights or something.

No alien movie will ever get it right, cause we have human imaginations, which is very very limited.

It would look cool and scary and thing is, you think you are convinced by some of these videos, but you really know it when you see it.

I dunno the day I see a video of big black ships in the sky is the day I start crspping my pants.


STS-088 find that, and you might get an idea what a ship would look like. Other then that pretty sure, aliens are too smart to visit us.

Originally posted by NightFlight
BTW, Whats your agenda?

Your agenda is apparently to change the subject away from facts and evidence to discussing personalities...

reply to post by WingedBull

Hey Einstein, I was keeping it short and to the point, but since you aren't keeping it "honest" - I'm forced to elaborate.

The alleged "KITES" are supposedly SPINNING KITES.

You showed us STUNT KITES.

Apples, meet Oranges.

Show me a video of those spinning types of kites in a stunt formation, I might follow your argument, but until then, showing a completely different style of kite doesn't support your argument.

Keep in mind, this video we are discussing is from 1978.

Good job!

Did you ever determine why nobody wanted to talk about it?

I forgot about Thick Rise.

I saw that you can still get it at Amazon.

Originally posted by reD3vil
Probably just swamp gas or kites with LED lights

nothing to see here!

Yeah, ya know that works when it's a blurry thing in the dark night sky, but..

Drop it eh?

It's old.

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While difficult, but not impossible as seen in an uploaded video using VHS:

I see you worked on this-before coming/joining ATS. Interesting. Didn't it take well at the other site (Disclose TV)?

Link: www.disclose.tv...

When did you learn of ATS?

I don't know. Something doesn't smell right.

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:0 not balloons? Yay something other then plastic air bubbles.

Yay for kites. In a few weeks I'm getting an rc helicopter and will record it and upload it with the title aliens. And see how many idiots fall for my prank.

Seriously upload it to YouTube, I bet I will have hundreds screaming for et, monkeys are gullible

And these as well:

Chinese lantern:

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Circoflex Kite:

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reply to post by anon72

I see you worked on this-before coming/joining ATS. Interesting. Didn't it take well at the other site (Disclose TV)?

Link: www.disclose.tv...

When did you learn of ATS?

I don't know. Something doesn't smell right.

So what? Does it matter about posting it over there?

Originally posted by coop039
Reply to NightFlight:

I was using lines in the early 80's that was a spectra blend capable of dozens of twists when using dual or quad lines, the lines would twist together on top and around each other, and it was very slick so when you pulled there was no friction. And this was line rated at 150lbs for 120 feet. So for a line that only needs to support the light pull of a small single line kite, and not cross another line it could twist literally for thousands and thousands of times of times, especially at a length of 150-300 feet. And it would be much thinner. Go Walgreens and buy a 200 foot roll of their cheap kite string($3 or so). Go home, tie one end to something and unroll it all the way. Now, take the untied end and secure it in the end of a cordless drill. pull the line snug, and turn on the drill. It will twist for a long time. And thats cheap string. A quality kite line will twist much longer.

Honestly, what has happened to this site? It seems people are just wanting stuff to be SO badly that they wont DENY IGNORANCE.

If there were REALLY UFOS at this game, and people commented or saw them, they would have stopped play. And everyone in the stadium would have looked up.

edit on 1-6-2011 by coop039 because: (no reason given)

Thanks for your input. We're talking 1500 to 3000 ft. high. I'm not so sure that the Spectra(R) would hold that much pull, especially a spinning airfoil (or two).