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Originally posted by CobraCommander
Originally posted by ldyserenity
They can get a court injunction and claim all custody of the child...then the woman can be sued for child support. It's been done before.
Extremely rare that a man gets sole custody of a child, even when abuse by the mother is proven.
As far as a man legally blocking a woman from having an abortion... link please.
Originally posted by CobraCommander
reply to post by deesul69
Group homes are filled with kids that never got adopted, and who are regularly abused, often sexually.
I have known more than one person that was adopted, and the majority have said they would rather have not been born at all. A few have been suicides over the years too.
Adoption is no the answer. Not that abortion is necessarily either.
I just think that we would see FAR fewer unwanted pregnancies across the board if women weren't coddled by the system and instead were held accountable for how they manage their OWN sexual responsibilities. As it is right now, becoming pregnant is an entrepreneurial activity for women.edit on 31-5-2011 by CobraCommander because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Now before we get off on the wrong foot here, I want to say that clearly the man who is the subject of the news article below was wrong in his actions. You can't go violently attacking people in a civilized society. But having said that, I can empathize with the man, and would like to examine the deeper socio-economic issues behind this news brief.
Story and editorial
Originally posted by CobraCommander
reply to post by ldyserenity
I hate setting arbitrary rules like 3 strikes laws. They always come back to bite us in the ass with the times when an exception to the rule is called for. But I do see where you are coming from, and agree with you in principal, even if I could not actually support such a law. Really, if a woman has ever had a single abortion, that should have been enough of a wake up call to make sure it never happened again. Especially under similar circumstances and within a short amount of time.
Originally posted by wirefire99
both cases the woman has 100% of the choice with regard to the issue. This is a physiological limitation and will never change barring some major changes in nature. The only issue I may see is that the genetic material that man contributes to the creation of life is the man's property. Perhaps someone could argue legally that the man has a right to terminate a pregnancy on the basis that he does not want his genetic material contributed to another life. (hey i know in some ways it sounds rediculous but it isnt much different than a woman saying I do not want to contribute to creating a life either after the moment of conception has occured)
Originally posted by deesul69
reply to post by CobraCommander
Well, that support is supposed to go to the child.
I do agree that unfortunately, the system gets abused much too often, and women look at it as a paycheck. It's not all the women's choice, though. The man should have known better. He knows that there's the possibility that she'll get pregnant, and could take him to the cleaners!! Both parties have to be responsible. I'm for small government and personal responsibility, but some guys are just deadbeats. I'd rather have the father forced to support the child than the state do it with my tax dollars.
Originally posted by inanna1234
When a man has sex with a women he gives his genetic material to her. A pregnancy can result after sex no matter how much protection is used by both parties. If he doesn't want to risk giving his genetic material to a women he should not have sex with her or get a snip. It's really that easy
Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by deesul69
Serious question here......
Do women feel ANY guilt,when it comes to abortion? Really wondering about it,since its become so frivolous of an action nowadays.
I have children also,and when I look into their eyes I could NEVER see myself NOT having them around,to love,to feel,to see.
Star for you.
Originally posted by CobraCommander
reply to post by inanna1234
So your entire argument is that it's the man's responsibility to pay for the woman's choices.