Best Gun to have for when the brown stuff starts flying.

Hi!
Next in the flying brown stuff series:-

So, we have the martial arts sorted, now onto a subject very close to a lot of peoples hearts.

GUNS!!!

Which gun should a person choose to help them, their family and their pets survive? Which is the best and why?
Please consider as many reasons as you can think of when coming to your conclusion.

308. is the best imo over all good power and great range, and I doubt anybody is gonna mess with you with a rifle in their face. Possums won't anyways. Secondary I would chose a 45. or a 9 mm (hate that round but easily found). Third at least a 6 inch knife for last resort. That's my opinion.

There is no best one. IT all depends on the user, and what it is being used for.

Personally, I am a firm believer that a shotgun is the most IMPORTANT gun one can own. Thy are extremely user friendly, hard to miss with, and ammo is EVERYWHERE.

That being said, if you are trained, a higher powered rifle is the best. Most accurate at a longer range, higher capacity, etc.

If its about portability, a handgun is always good. easier to carry and easier to carry extra mags for. But they have less range, are less accurate, and less powerful. To me, a handgun truly is best as a backup.

Again, there is no 'best' gun. Its all about who is using it and what it is being used for.

UMP-45

I would prefer this weapon.
The UMP is a closed bolt blowback with blowback. It can be set for left and right handed and has the military option has three firing modes: single shot, 2-shot burst and Dauerfeuer.Das is housing the weapon similar to that of the G36 almost entirely of plastic, thus savings in weight and manufacturing cost - and thus the price - brings. The price savings, as compared to the MP5 is around 25 percent, also the main reason for the development of the UMP is seen as smaller police forces in the important U.S. market often did not have the resources to the more expensive MP5 to purchase. As most shooters and police officers in the U.S. also swear by the classic .45 ACP and believe in its supposed superiority over other calibers, the UMP is one of the few modern machine guns of this caliber very popular there. And its not so big, "easy" to handle.

What an excellent question! I personally believe that a Mossberg 500, or Remington 870 shotgun is the best way to go for all around survival. My top reason for selecting this weapon is because it is "tried, true and tested."

There has been a decent amount of survival firearms related questions posted, and you may want to consider checking out some of the other related topics:

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Or just check out the site's SEARCH feature.

In any case, I think that talking this over with other like-minded individuals will greatly assist in your search for a good survival firearm.

Good luck!

Definitely a shotgun. A shotgun is probably the best home defense gun you can have. As far as a handgun, 45 and 9mm both have good stopping power. Some 45's sound like a cannon going off. A 40cal has good penetration but lacks the stopping power. I had a sig, beretta, and a glock, all were 40cal. The sig by far was the best gun. The glock was the worst. I got more jams and as the magazine empties as you fire, you notice the difference in weight which can throw off your accuracy. No complaints with the beretta.

get a rifle, handgun, and a hunting rifle and a nice buck knife. Ima be getting my G3 rifle and 1911 handgun pretty soon

I think the best gun to have would be a loaded one.

The best gun for you is the one you know inside and out frontwards and backwards...
the one you take the time to learn to use and use well...

there is no such thing as one best gun for everything... if there was I'd own two...
but lets say you forced me to pick only one... one gun to hunt with as well as defend myself and my family...
for for me that one gun would have to be my Dan Wesson large frame .44mag
not because it is so much better than all the rest but for me it is the best comprise
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This question has been asked and answered many times on ATS.

The best answer I can give you as I have many others is that the best gun should have the following traits:

1-Ease of use

2-Reliability

3-Parts availability

4-Ammo availability

5-Your comfort level

My wife and I both own AR15s, a Remington 870 Tactical shotgun, I have a Ruger SR9 9mm and I'm buying one in a few weeks for my wife.

We use the same guns so that there isn't a whole bunch of different ammo between us. We'll have the same parts to worry about. She has an M4 type AR 15(it's much easier for her to handle) and I have the 20" heavy barrel A2 version. Both have identical internal parts with exception of the gas tube(2 different lengths). Both of these weapons have internal/external enhancements(See link in my sig about enhancing AR platform rifles) and are extremely reliable weapons.

The Remington 870 Tactical 12 gauge shotgun can be used for home defense and hunting purposes. It is a tried and true shotgun design with a 5 decade long history of success. I highly recommend it. There are many versions of the 870, but if you're looking for something that can defend as well as feed you, try a tactical version. They usually come with a pistol grip which makes the 12 gauge a bit more comfortable to shoot. The receiver is usually drilled and tapped so you can add optics or a rear sight. It truly is a good all around weapon.

The Ruger SR9 is an all around good weapon chambered in 9mm (9x19). It is Ruger's answer to the Glock, and after having used both, I have found that the SR9 is a superior weapon in many respects. It is light weight, VERY high capacity(full size version 17+1 rounds standard). I was hitting 4 inch groups at 50 yards with this thing. I know 4 inch groups don't sound very good, but at 50 yards(the absolute maximum effective range of the handgun chambered in 9mm) it is incredible accuracy. I trust my life to this weapon.

Those are my recommendations. Take it or leave it. HOWEVER, whatever you may choose, PRACTICE DILIGENTLY with whatever weapon(s) you end up with. Make sure you know your weapons inside and out. Find out what the common problems and limitations are with those weapons and see if they can be remedied by after market products. Secondly, make sure that whatever weapon(s) you do choose are supported by parts and ammo availability. It may be awfully cool to own a G36, but if the market over all or the circumstance leaves you with no recourse if and when your weapon breaks down, you will have wished to have gone with the AR instead. So whatever you choose, either stock up on necessary parts and ammo, or buy a gun that in a SHTF scenario will be easily fixed in a pinch by scavenging parts.

Nobody has mentioned the minigun yet which is quite suprising. I was thinking of something along these lines.

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Ruger 10-22
Almost never jam with factory 10 round mags.
You can carry 10 times the ammo.
22 cal good penetration at good velocity.
Rambo will be the first among the dead in a shtf.
10-22 cost a fraction of alot of other guns.
It can take down large game but it is illegal to do so in all states (I believe) animal cruelty for those who cannot aim.
22 kills full grown men.
I have never repaired mine, so I assume they are durable. parts are available however.

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If I were to get brown stuff on me then I recommend the super soaker 2000. It's sprays the brown stuff off with zero issue and you can add a little soap if extra cleaning is required.

If you already have a .45 or 9mm Colt-type autopistol taking a standard magazine, i.e., single-stack, then you need to consider a Marlin Camp Gun in the same calibre, as they use the same magazines your pistol uses.

Also consider the venerable lever gun, as they need no magazines (which take time to reload). They can be loaded "on the run" and are really very practical.

I agree with everyone else on the shotguns.

Under the right circumstances, a potato gun loaded with a turd can do you some good.

A decent P/A 12 ga. Can take down a variety of game, and would also be handy for protecting yourself.

One of those over-under .410/.22 survival combos would be an okay option as well, though you won't be taking down any large game with it.

In a perfect world.. my 30.30 Winchester lever action on my back and a Taurus Judge (.45/.410) revolver on my hip.

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A shotgun if i can only have one.

A great shotgun, set up right could be everything you need. And with some training women could shoot it very easily.

You have buck shot for defense. Home or otherwise. You have slugs for hunting big game.Birdshot for small game.

You can defend yourself with slugs out to 100 yards pretty well. Anything beyond that is a fight you run from.

I own a good knife set, .38 special, 9mm Lugar, .40 cal, and a 12 gauge SG. Now I am saving up for a 30/30 and maybe a .223. Then my collection will be complete. Everyone should have something for every occasion. Let's just hope we can resolve our problems without using them.

For someone who knows nothing about guns, the shotgun is the best choice to learn on.

The best all around compromise is a quality semi auto AK47.

If you like to clean and inspect weapons to kill time, the AR is always there and they tend to be very accurate.


For a newb, you really cant go wrong with a 12ga for defense.

After much careful consideration I have decided upon this:-

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im not a huge gun expert, but i would go with an ak-47 because they are durable and hard to clog up,