The Titanic – An In-Depth Look

So does one have to be born into the Templars, Freemasons or Illuminati?

You can't have heard the family of one of the crew told the family secret that their dad got the directions messed up so they turned into the iceberg not away. No conspiracy here

Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Originally posted by ronishia

Essentials list is taken from Wikipedia
Name: RMS Titanic
Owner: White Star Line
Route: Southampton to New York City
Ordered: 17 September 1908
Builder: Harland and Wolff, Belfast
Laid down: 31 March 1909
Launched: 31 May 1911
Christened: Not christened
Completed: 31 March 1912
Maiden voyage: 10 April 1912
In service: 1912
Identification: Radio Callsign "MGY"
Fate: Sank on 15 April 1912 after hitting an iceberg in middle of Atlantic Ocean

There's the problem right there - Not christened.

ahh i wondered who would notice that one exactly usually when boats are released from the docks to start their voyage they do a ceremony were they smash a bottle against the hull ( usually a champagne bottle, this is done for luck) this wasn't done here , mayb that did contribute to the bad luck who knows

Originally posted by davesmart
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absolutely excellent ive read these stories for yrs way b4 the invention of www.
theres 1 u havnt mentioned.
apparently a welder and his young aprentice were welded into the hull,but again theres not much evidence for it..
well done fantastic thread....dave

actually i heard this theory aswell a while back, it was said that their ghosts could be heard? cant remember for the life of me were i saw it though.

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well i had a look around for those that were curious about why it wasnt christened all i found really was this

On May 31 1911, Titanic was launched. She was put under the comand of captain Edward John Smith. The maiden voyage of Titanic was to be his last. After that, he was going to retire. The launch lasted only 62 seconds. She wasn't christened because it was customary for the White Star Line to launch without a christening.

source

No Christening

The Titanic was never christened. The christening of a ship is when it is blessed and a bottle of champagne is smashed on its hull. It is known that White Star Liners and Harland & Wolffe never christened their ships.

The christening of a ship is a ritual that goes back to the early days of shipping. It was a sacrifice to the gods to ensure a safe journey. At that time it was taken seriously but by the Titanic's time it was just good luck. Some people believed that it was ignoring this naval custom that was the cause of Titanic's end.

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Just wanted to say aswell, to those i havnt replied directly to i have read your replys and a big thank you for commenting i am glad people enjoyed reading

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nice find



It's unfortunate that we will never know what really happened aboard the ship, but foul play cannot be ruled out.. especially when there was money to be made and enemies to be killed

Awesome post!

I Have a book in the house called " the cult of the immortal "

The book itself is about egyptian civilisation and mummification, they mentioned in it about the crypt of tutenkahmun and how everyone who went into his crypt soon afterward became fatally ill or died.

It also states that many collectors of mummies and egyptian artifacts were shipped around the world to other collectors before the Egyptian authorities could stop them many being sent on boats.
One particular mummy was shipped with the titanic and was noted in its log book
aparently the mummy was some pharoah or the son of a grest pharoah and his tomb was indeed cursed based on the heiroglyphs enscribed on the tomb.

Now thats an interesting conspiracy
I'll re read the book for the specific page and scan it in so you can see it.

I never knew any of this!

What does it for me is that J.P. Morgan hopped off hours before the Titanic set sail, while three prominent elite against the creation of the FED all died onboard. Hrmmm... like really? How come coincidences only happen when something evil is about to going down... kinda like they were planned to happen?

Good work, thanks for bringing this incident to our attention!

Great thread! Never knew about all these conspiracies surrounding the Titanic. The olympic switch angle seems plausible.Never saw that picture of the two ships together before. The mummy curse theory is pretty famous but sounds more like a scare story, would make a great thread for a hollywood movie though

Awesome thread OP! Thanks for posting S&F

From the OP:

Originally posted by ronishia
In all honesty I believe that the titanic was a tragedy that was caused by a hell of a lot of tiny mistakes and errors made, ranging from the actual design to the actions of the crew & captain.

I agree.

The Olympic/Titanic swap is not plausible. Quite literally everybody at the shipyard would know about it. Although similar, there were obvious external structural differences. Also, when I was in the Navy, I worked at a shore maintenance support unit. This job called for me to go aboard many different ships of the same class. Even though each looked similar on the outside, on the inside there was no mistaking the differences. The floor might be a different color, the paint a slightly different shade or the jog in a passageway might be offset a few feet. It could be disorienting at times. Nobody who worked in these ships for any time would mistake one for the other.

As others have pointed out, a "planned accident" is also implausible. It relies on variables of nature that cannot be planned; most notably finding an iceberg at night, with no moon on dead-calm water. The guys most likely to detect it were, of course, the lookouts in the forward crow's nest. Anyone else (including the bridge watch) would have had their night-vision compromised by the ship's deck lights. In the event, iceberg appeared directly in from of them. From a conspiracy standpoint, this is awfully convenient. If had been spotted off to the side, the ship would have had to steer into it. Someone would have noticed that.

You did such a good job OP. Very informative and interesting! The curse of the mummy is so mysterious!

S&F

here's another odd twist...

reincarnation !

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Titanic's designer reincarnated!

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does anyone know other "reincarnated" Titanic passengers or crew ??

they just might know something we don't !!!

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very interesting find ty for sharing! found these odd bits aswell

www.jamesmdeem.com...

and this source 4 below

2) Some people have memories of being on the Titanic, both as crew, and as passengers. Most of these people have memories of dying on the Titanic. Some actually have memories of the great ship being built. People have claimed that certain items in Titanic exhibits strongly attract them, or even nearly bring them to tears with some forgotten memory. There are memories of the ships decor, and conversations with the captain.

The Titanic suck due to stupidity of the crew! there is no cover up.

you missed one "urban Legend": "The Legend of the uss titanic" by jamie brockett. give it a listen.

Excellent post OP on a subject that's always fascinated me.

There was an incident when Titanic left Southampton involving the moored liner SS New York. I always thought the delay was about 50 minutes but Wiki says half an hour and another website says half an hour so that must be what it was. The italics are mine.

As Titanic left her berth, her wake caused the liner SS New York, which was docked nearby, to break away from her moorings, whereupon she was drawn dangerously close (about four feet) to Titanic before a tugboat towed New York away.[40] The incident delayed departure for about half an hour.[

RMS Titanic

Captain Smith was getting a move on but that could have been to try and make up lost time.
Had the near collision with New York not happened then Titanic would have been in a different spot and so would the berg.
But then if Titanic was doomed from the start and had the near collision not happened she would still have struck a berg.

thanks for the replies guys and some of you gave some interesting info

Excellent thread, well done. Something has me confused though. The Titanic sunk on 15th April 1912 on it's maiden voyage, so how can it have been launched on 31st May 1911?