The Extent of Jewish Control

Originally posted by Nonvexatious
reply to post by AngryOne

 

Why is this kind of toss being allowed on this site? Freedom of speech blah blah - freedom to hate more like. Sir, or madam, you are a big wanker.

And here was me thinking they were merely pointing out relevant facts..

Originally posted by mayabong
Everyone should watch this movie. It shows how young jews, especially in Israel are brainwashed to think everyone is out to get them.

There's an old saying: It's only paranoia if they're not out to get you.

A simple break down of this thread:

OP: "The Jews control the media. Read these links because they tell you that a bunch of people with Jew names own media outlets."
ATS: "Those links say 'the Jews control the media.' Can you give us some actual proof that 'the Jews' not 'some people with Jewish-sounding names' have 'complete control'?"
OP: "But don't you see?!? They said so!"
ATS: "I'm asking for proof! Just something with a smidgen of substance! Is that too much to ask?"
OP: "You have no idea what you're talking about!!! You're just a sheep!"
ATS: ...

The end.

Please, give us some real substance to work with. I think it's a bunch of BS, but I'm not unwilling to look at facts. And saying, "But this guy's name is Rosenberg!!!", is not supporting fact.

/TOA

Originally posted by AngryOne
reply to post by ktrip

 

Now a serious question: Why do you all seem to have such an intense aversion to the truth?

Basically, you have not demonstrated that you even know a glimmer of the truth. I don't know how you wound up being such an anti-Semite, nor do I really care if it was Hitler or your Daddy, but for you to claim that the media, specifically, is controlled by the Jews is laughable. It's hard to imagine a MSM both in America and the EU that could possibly be more anti-Jewish than they alrready are. I see the MSM and the university system as composed of left-wing, socialist Jew-haters who are actively seeking ther destruction of the state of Israel.

They disgust me.

P.S. No, I'm not Jewish and consider the religion itself as stupid as Christianity or Islam or any other.

Originally posted by The Old American

Originally posted by mayabong
Everyone should watch this movie. It shows how young jews, especially in Israel are brainwashed to think everyone is out to get them.

There's an old saying: It's only paranoia if they're not out to get you.

Here is a new saying, one which I am using- WATCH THE FILM

The 3 elderly Polish men were not out to get those angry young Israeli kids, who appear to be in a state of perpetual paranoia and hate because of their indoctrination

Well i do love these ZIONIST threads....When the OP writes them i think they should use a little bit of tack and decorum which may just help in what they are trying to say....To go after JEWS is an attack on an ortodox religion....now to use the term Zionist...which is a movement to keep the state of Israel in tact and to keep the state of Rothchilds functioning as it is would be a better approach in my opinion.

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As you can see from the mapping i have done you can see the influence from behind the scenes.

Also some people in this thread have said something about elected positons....well please wake up and smell the torah......as you will see most of the influencing positions are NOT elected positions of power and these people hold these important positions throughout governmental change.

also the world is not quite so black and white now is it....when the Zionist movement formed it was a creation to interject the banking system into the realm of global control.

Well it has been working a treat has it not....I think it has been doing a fantastic job of conquering the people of this planet.....Remember that the Zionist movement is not a Jewish movement....as the Zionists had turned on their own people when Hitler had offer the transfer of jewish people to vacate from Poland but the Zionist leaders at the time felt it was in their interest to let them suffer at the hands of Hitler to further their cause.

The media has been influenced by the Zionists for a long time...and just like many lawyers and doctors and bankers have been ushered into these prominant positons for the purpose of control over others....The Zionist movement is real and very Effective...and they were the ones who coined the term anti-semite.

this term has been useful in it's usage around to world to silence the masses at the roots in order yet again to control what is put out there by the public....it was coined in the ....NEVER guess....the new york times to put a hush on the protocols of zionism....YES YES YES....many people will come here yet again and say this was a hoax by a Frenchman who did a lousy interpretation of a story by a Russian....hmmm how convienent hey ......since the base of Zionists is made up of Khazar Jews.......but oh well....yet again i will go down as being ANTI -SEMITE because i am willing to speak my mind about a very wealthy influential movement that has been manipulating the global political scene for their nefarious purposes to of keeping the Gentiles as slaves ......the Gentiles are not welcomed.

As you can read how in 1921 it was portrayed a s a hoax....and the term anti semite was unleashed upon the masses.

The Times exposes a forgery, 1921





The Times exposed the Protocols as a forgery on August 16-18, 1921
In 1920, the history of the concepts found in the Protocols was traced back to the works of Goedsche and Joly by Lucien Wolf; was published in London in August 1921; and was similarly exposed in the series of articles in The Times by its Constantinople reporter, Philip Graves, who took his information from Wolf's work.

According to writer Peter Grose, Allen Dulles, who was in Constantinople developing relationships in post-Ottoman political structures, discovered 'the source' of the documentation ultimately provided to The Times. Grose writes that The Times extended a loan to the source, a Russian émigré who refused to be identified, with the understanding the loan would not be repaid.[33] Colin Holmes, a lecturer in economic history of Sheffield University, identified the émigré as Michael Raslovleff, a self-confessed antisemite, who gave the information to Graves so as not to "give a weapon of any kind to the Jews, whose friend I have never been."[34]

In the first article of Graves' series, entitled "A Literary Forgery," the editors of The Times wrote, "our Constantinople Correspondent presents for the first time conclusive proof that the document is in the main a clumsy plagiarism. He has forwarded us a copy of the French book from which the plagiarism is made."[35] The New York Times reprinted the articles on September 4, 1921.[36] In the same year, an entire book[37] documenting the hoax was published in the United States by Herman Bernstein. Despite this widespread and extensive debunking, the Protocols continued to be regarded as important factual evidence by antisemites

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therefore because i put this forward .....I therefore become a Anti-Semite.

as you can see the conundrum.

Now think back to the controlers in the Media at the time and how convient it was to portray this as such in order to get their way in making the people believe what was being put out there....The papers at the time were the big influence on society at the time....and it is now becoming important to try and control the internet in the same fashion is it not.

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now who was the owner of the new york times during these turbulent Times of the 1920's ...shall we look

Adolph Ochs


Today, when America’s news media are under attack for sensationalism, we recall that an American Jew, Adolph Simon Ochs, set the standard for objective, independent and responsible journalism.

Ochs was born in Cincinnati in 1868 to German-Jewish immigrants, Julius and Bertha Levy Ochs. Bertha Ochs had emigrated to Knoxville, Tenn., in 1,848, and when the Civil War started in 1861 she sided with the Confederacy. Julius, on the other hand, chose to serve in the Union army — a conflict that strained but did not divide the household. Thus Adolph’s parents modeled early in his life the importance of sticking to principles, regardless of the discomfort the might cause others.

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Now as i say i will get called Anti-Semite for all the wrong reasons because it is what suits the Zionists......Well please know this...i have some good friends whom are Truely orthodox jews and they too are Anti-Zionist.

Also learn a few things from a person i have written to on a few ocasions about this situation.

Real Zionist News

Now this is some interesting stuff....and just because my opinions are my own ....I do not believe all that anyone says....as one should always be able to read between the lines and research in order to draw their own reasonable conclusions in all matters.

PLANNING A ONE WORLD GOVERMENT


THERE ARE 3 SPHERES in which the NWO Jews have 3 specific goals:

I. The Melt-Down Of National Borders:

A) The invasion of illegals into the US.
B) The invasion of Muslims throughout Christian Europe.
C) The invasion of alien cultures into the Christian West.

II. The Melt Down Of Financial Institutions:

A) The dismantling of American Savings & Loan Banks in the 1990s caused by the Fed’s high-interest loans to the US government & forced low interest loans of the S&Ls.

B) The dismantling of independent banks such as the recent takeover of Bear Stearns by JP Morgan and the Jewish-owned Federal Reserve Bank. (Bear Stearns was forced by the Fed to loan money to unqualified borrowers or be sued causing its collapse.)

C) The dismantling of national banks by the Jewish International Finance Cartel run by the Rothschilds of London & France.

III. The Melt-Down Of Christian Culture:

A) The eradication of public Christian expression by the Jewish-run & funded ACLU in America through the Jewish-run US legal system.

B) The eradication of Christian culture such as in Christian Kosovo wherein the Albanian Muslims of the drug-running KLA declared independence vis-a-vis sanction by the Jewish-run US State Department Here.

C) The eradication of Christian political activity throughout the Western World vis-a-vis the Jewish lie known as “Separation Of Church & State” used in the Jewish-run American & European Courts.

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Now does this make what the OP is saying a little more palatable....I am not sure ....but i am sure the the Filthy rich Zionists have an Agenda and it does not include 99% of the rest of the world in it's agenda.....to them we are slaves and they treat the Gentiles as lesser beings and they use their own hatred of others against us to keep us in a state of flux while they manipulate the world for their own gains.

love life and live life with love.

reply to post by AngryOne

Holy Crap OP, Did you not get enough sympathy in your last racist thread? No KKK meeting this week where you can talk your garbage? If you don't like the different races in our "melting pot" country move elsewhere and spare us this drivel. You said "try and refute anything I have said". People have and you still don't listen. You're as mired and stuck in your mindset as the Zionists, Radical Muslims, and Christian Fundamentalists. Your mind is not open and cannot be changed.

reply to post by schuyler

It's hard to imagine a MSM both in America and the EU that could possibly be more anti-Jewish than they alrready are. I see the MSM and the university system as composed of left-wing, socialist Jew-haters who are actively seeking ther destruction of the state of Israel.

Care to show proof of that?

Originally posted by ShAuNmAn-X
reply to post by AngryOne

 

Holy Crap OP, Did you not get enough sympathy in your last racist thread? No KKK meeting this week where you can talk your garbage? If you don't like the different races in our "melting pot" country move elsewhere and spare us this drivel. You said "try and refute anything I have said". People have and you still don't listen. You're as mired and stuck in your mindset as the Zionists, Radical Muslims, and Christian Fundamentalists. Your mind is not open and cannot be changed.

"melting pot"

Originally posted by blueorder

Originally posted by unicomsol

Originally posted by blueorder
so whites being less likely to be criminals than blacks or perform better educationally than blacks is because whites are just "better" at making sure their kids are not criminals or better performers in school???


Still doesn't explain Jewish media influence, that is quite significant...

White people in western society are at the moment more positioned to send their child through university without the need for a scholarship than blacks. thats just statistical fact based on poverty level.

So the Jewish performance is due to brilliant culture and family structure, while the whites were just not as poverty stricken, yeah, good acrobatting there

The jewish people came to this country with a welcome wagon (same with irish, italians, etc)...they came on a boat
black people came inside a boat.

jewish people came in groups and preserved their culture
blacks came here, seperated, sold off, and kept ignorant as best possible.

there is no acrobating going on here, this is simply historical fact. do you honestly believe the jewish people in america have had to deal with the same amount of bigotry and hate as the blacks? is there a story of states having "new jews allowed" over their restaurants? no...they came here and quickly established themselves...first generation is getting educated, second is moving up the ladder, etc...this group of people have been nomadic for a very long time...they picked up some finely tuned survival traits along the way.

better? no, parents in general want the best for their kids...some simply have the disposable income to ensure a better chance.

But with the jews you never mentioned disposable income, yet now it is the reason for blacks perforning poorer than whites- most strange!

See above for a brief history of establishment for the african culture group
now...this generation, they are equal...and so in the next few generations, you will see a mixing and equality play out...but this is recent.
in the 50s and 60s, segregation and intolerance was heavy...even in the 70s the aftermath was still kicking. you don't go from beaten your entire life to suddenly freedom and perfection overnight without some time for establishment.

the jewish media...its jewish culture that dates back thousands of years

take over publications, take over financial institutions...this integrates them into a foreign society much better than say, a focus on construction skills for your culture.

So it is a conspiracy to take over the media!!!!

Well, I am not sure its a conspiracy considering that is their ultimate known goal...they are trying to become successful
is it a conspiracy that the NAACP has the word advancement in there? they are focused on advancing the power base of blacks...thats not a conspiracy as much as a aim for the culture in question.
is there a NAAWP? not offically, but one could argue that its everywhere in more subtle and established areas...not like whites need it currently (we tend to own almost everything)..but the point is, every culture has its movements to try and become established in any nation they are in.

I find it amusing that people complain about the jews...instead of complain about them, why not just research how this group of people have such resiliance and learn from them...apply it to your own family, culture, and heritage.

Envy is a nasty trait.

I did with whites, but that didn't suit your little preset assunptions of how we should be thinking correctly

My preset assumptions is to simply focus on bettering yourself. know the obsticles ahead and overcome it through education and ambition. the more you focus on how any group owns everything only promotes a sense of anger and apathy...self defeatist attitude that is not part of the jewish culture.

my point is...if the jewish culture can be slammed throughout history endlessly and still do really well for themselves wherever they plant their feet...its time to stop cursing them and instead, learn from them and their society survival techniques...if not for your entire culture group, then just for you and your family.

to me, that seems like good thinking overall...much better than a pseudo-victim mentality.

reply to post by blueorder


"A state of paranoia and hate due to indoctrination..." read your own words and apply them where they fit.

Originally posted by blueorder
the option is a Jewish coincidence or a Jewish conspiracy...........

People will see what 'they want to see'.

If people want to see a conspiracy based upon Mickey Mouse taking over the US, they will form incoherent facts into a bogus theology. Regardless about the conflicting evidence, they will force things to fit a specific narrative.

Its all about perception.

Your options are always:
(1) Is there a direct correlation? Does event A cause event B?
(2) Is there a third unrelated correlation? Does event C exist?
(3) Nothing exists. It was an illusion.

Honestly I don't understand why Jewish people would be angry about someone pointing out that the media is controlled by Jewish people. It's strange. I actually think jewish people would be proud and thankful that they are in control of such a powerful tool.
It's like jewish people are pulling the race card like african americans do. And this is coming from a black woman whose great grandfather was a jewish man who escaped nazi germany by coming to America.

Why in the world are people flagging this thread?
In my opinion, just as much christians and muslims run the media. I think you choose to believe that Jews are the main overseer.

reply to post by Section31


Basically what I said X) I like it.

reply to post by randomname


''when netanyahu can go to washington, d.c., the world capitol of freedom and democracy and get 300+ senators and congressmen to almost break their wrists applauding so hard in support of a military occupation and oppression of an innocent people, then you have to take a step back as a citizen and start to wonder what the f-ck is going on.

when netanyahu gets more standing ovations than the president of united states in his own congress, then you got to again, step back and ask wtf.

when literally, if netanyahu were to declare that he is building gas chambers and is going to rid israel of every gentile and non-jew, i think all 300+ senators and congressmen, will look at each and wonder what to do for a few seconds, then stand and clap in support because they don't to be seen on cnn as not supporting israel.

that's the state america is in. ''


A hole in 1! Bravo

Originally posted by Teeky
Honestly I don't understand why Jewish people would be angry about someone pointing out that the media is controlled by Jewish people. It's strange.

Its because the media is a negative reinforcement.

Anyone connect to such a tainted system will also be considered tainted.

Honestly, I don't understand why people use our cultural and religious differences, so they can create an unorthodox conspiracy to cause division.

Example: Islam the religion didn't attack America on 9/11/01. Radical terrorists driven by a twisted interpretation of Islam attacked America on 9/11/01. Big difference in interpretation.

Originally posted by unicomsolThe jewish people came to this country with a welcome wagon (same with irish, italians, etc)...they came on a boat
black people came inside a boat.

The Jewish arrivals came after the initial slave arrivals of the blacks which you refer to, and the Jews most certainly did NOT come with a welcome wagon- same goes for the Irish and the Italians who were, in the distant past, not "welcomed"

jewish people came in groups and preserved their culture

what culture, from where, specifically where, and from what period to the present day

blacks came here, seperated, sold off, and kept ignorant as best possible.

Well they did not "separate", they lived together, but you are going into relatively ancient history here

there is no acrobating going on here, this is simply historical fact.

oh but there is

do you honestly believe the jewish people in america have had to deal with the same amount of bigotry and hate as the blacks? is there a story of states having "new jews allowed" over their restaurants? no...they came here and quickly established themselves...first generation is getting educated, second is moving up the ladder, etc...this group of people have been nomadic for a very long time...they picked up some finely tuned survival traits along the way.

so you are saying that Judaism is not a religion but a "race", with specific DNA ingrained "traits" now inherent within the "race"- does this also apply to whites and blacks?

Going into relatively old history they both experienced bigotry, yes indeed- as for who had the "worst", this does not explain educational malaise of blacks in the 21st century, unless we are talking about blacks who are 300 years old. Look more the "progressive" policies which helped to decimate black family life and promote the basest aspects of black culture.

See above for a brief history of establishment for the african culture group

brief is being kind, it doesn't explain current scenarios

now...this generation, they are equal...and so in the next few generations, you will see a mixing and equality play out...but this is recent.

this "equality" agenda has been happening since the late 60s, we are approaching 5 decades of this- think that excuse is wearing a bit thin.........

in the 50s and 60s, segregation and intolerance was heavy...even in the 70s the aftermath was still kicking. you don't go from beaten your entire life to suddenly freedom and perfection overnight without some time for establishment.

It was not "heavy", the equality agenda was in full force, and the same progressives behind it helped to destroy black family life and promote welfare dependency in the process- hurrah!

Well, I am not sure its a conspiracy considering that is their ultimate known goal...they are trying to become successful

it is either coincidence or conspiracy, and the numbers involved suggest a coincidence is a hard thing to push

is it a conspiracy that the NAACP has the word advancement in there? they are focused on advancing the power base of blacks...thats not a conspiracy as much as a aim for the culture in question.

That is a despicable organisation which should have been disbanded years ago- most definitely a conspiracy- a conspiracy to forment division and try and seize power/money based on group division

is there a NAAWP? not offically,

no, there just isn't

but one could argue that its everywhere in more subtle and established areas...not like whites need it currently (we tend to own almost everything)..but the point is, every culture has its movements to try and become established in any nation they are in.

you could argue that if you wish to excuse racist black organisations

My preset assumptions is to simply focus on bettering yourself. know the obsticles ahead and overcome it through education and ambition. the more you focus on how any group owns everything only promotes a sense of anger and apathy...self defeatist attitude that is not part of the jewish culture.

my point is...if the jewish culture can be slammed throughout history endlessly and still do really well for themselves wherever they plant their feet...its time to stop cursing them and instead, learn from them and their society survival techniques...if not for your entire culture group, then just for you and your family.

to me, that seems like good thinking overall...much better than a pseudo-victim mentality.

lol, "pseudo-victim" mentality, something which you have assumed with your little black history lesson there and defence of the victim mentality profiteers of the NAACP

Originally posted by Section31

Originally posted by blueorder
the option is a Jewish coincidence or a Jewish conspiracy...........

People will see what 'they want to see'.

If people want to see a conspiracy based upon Mickey Mouse taking over the US, they will form incoherent facts into a bogus theology. Regardless about the conflicting evidence, they will force things to fit a specific narrative.

Its all about perception.

Your options are always:
(1) Is there a direct correlation? Does event A cause event B?
(2) Is there a third unrelated correlation? Does event C exist?
(3) Nothing exists. It was an illusion.

edit on 5/31/2011 by Section31 because: (no reason given)

back to some sort of sense of reason, it is on or the other, take you pick

reply to post by tooo many pills


I agree , or Fake Jew Zionist works . with an emphasis on FAKE
And it's not just the media and banks the list is quite long I`m actually relieved when researching some the nefarious jackals to find out that their NOT Jewish or part of the AIPAC lobby .
I have no issue with the average Jewsh person on the street and fear that one day innocent Jews will be persecuted for the crimes of these Babalonian villians , It happened before

Too many people to reply to at once!
So, I loved Caprica, Stargate, the Event, and BSG. If you add BSG to your list blue profile pic guy then I suspect you could comfortably hang out at my house any time.

Angry and OP:
Yes, given the numbers of people in the world who are Jewish and the number of people in the world who are involved in the media I do think that Jews may be make up a larger percentage of media types. They do not make up all media and some media is down right anti Jew. Also, I don't think that there is anything wrong with them having a larger percentage of the media (or of auto shops if that is what they want to do and that is how they apply their resources in both terms of time and money,) good for them. The fact that you object to it is revealing your feelings toward Jewish people. Either you flat out don't like them or you think that they are out to get you. History does not support them being out to get you but history does support others trying to convince the masses that they the Jews are bad because scapegoats come in handy when people want to deflect blame and quickly consolidate power for themselves...

Angry:
Seriously you spout a lot of words but it is word salad. There are facts there but your responses are not a match for the conversation and then you accuse me of that!
YOU brought up the Romans and Latin and then when I respond to it you go off on Aramaic. Yay Aramaic! ? What's your point? Oh, I know, you don't like Jews....
My response of Abraham was very on point because you suspected that Arabs might actually be Jews and the holy texts of the religions associated with both groups clearly state that they trace shared ancestry to Abraham. But you then claim that you can't imagine why I bring up Abraham.
Are you googling for info as you type and just posting words from the responses? In all the time I have read this site I have never found another responder so annoying. And it isn't just your Jew Hate (and I don't want to use a euphamism, anti this, anti that, let's call it what it is: Jew Hate) it's the way you respond. You have already arrived at your answer in your head so you are only interested in what fits your little way of thinking.
I don't expect that I am going to change your mind. But to hate another group of people is ignorant and small.