New Becteria NDM-1 terrorizes Europe, 12 dead in Germany

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It's also stated that the container with the suspect cucumbers fell open and boxes of cucumber dropped on the floor. That happened in Germany (so I read). So the cucumbers did come from Spain, but the tainting could very well have happened when they fell.

That's how the German officials came to the initial conclusion that the cucumbers had the bacteria.

For those with some ground, even a small plot, grow your own.

It isnt hard.

We grow a lot of our own stuff here in a tiny plot.

Why depend on companies?

If you cannot get a plot, find a local organic small farmer, and buy theirs, try a FARM SHOP in the countryside.

Face it what do you need, some vegies, and some potatoes. We arn't talking huge farm land here.

Want eggs? buy a couple of chickens in a large pen. That maybe a bit awkard for those with space though but dooable.

Too late,, already in the minds of the public,,,

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"Russia's chief sanitary agency on Monday banned the imports of cucumbers, tomatoes and fresh salad from Spain and Germany pending further notice. It said in a statement that it may even ban the imports of fresh vegetables from all European Union member states due to the lack of information about the source of infection."

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"due to the lack of information about the source of infection"

Never thought i'd cheer for the Russian's.

if it originated in spain why are there no outbreaks in spain?
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it don't add up

Translated an interesting article I read in a Dutch newspaper using google:

translate.google.nl... article%2Fdetail%2F2441438%2F2011%2F06%2F04%2FWHO-Niet-groente-maar-vlees-is-bron-EHEC.dhtml&act=url

So an Italian scientist working for the WHO speaks up about the bacteria and claims it is likely the source is infected meat poorly heated or raw meat, the mutation could have occured because of antibiotics abuse.

Which was already suggested here on ATS, not sure which topic, but a poster made a comment about the use of antibiotics helped create this mutation and it is likely the source was meat rather than vegetables. Which is info that can be read on many websites, ecoli lives in the gut of animals and can only survive a certain amount of time outside of it's host. So it is likely the restaurant in Lübeck identified as the source had contaminated meat (source, translated from dutch with google translate )

What a blunder the Germans made claiming it came from vegetables, costing millions in losses over export while anyone can read this info on wikipedia. Or was this intentional disinfo so the public would not notice the antibiotics abuse, put the blame on vegetables which doesn't have anything as antibiotics which might create a scandal? Probably not but it is a strange situation. Either way I'm seriously considering becoming a veggie because of this, who knows what kind of deadly mutated bacteria might pop up in the years to come.