Evidence of HAARP activity (for real this time)

reply to post by SkipperJohn

I see no evidence that the heater was in use after May 8. Twenty days before the earthquake. How much time do you want to give it?
maestro.haarp.alaska.edu...
maestro.haarp.alaska.edu...

reply to post by Phage



I am reading a book called Acid Dreams, the beginning details how the CIA funded a lot of research into Acid which they wanted to use for interrogation. They did this through all kinds of University programs. So if it appears that most of the funding comes from a University - I can bet it is not the Alumni funds. Maybe it is "channeled" through the University.

I don't know what they are really doing with HAARP. It holds some scary patents. I was in both the Air Force and the Navy and this place has intrigued me since first learning of it. I became more intrigued as our Air Fleets age out, thinking they must have something else up their sleeve. I am not saying HAARP is what they have, just that it definately interests me.

So you have any theories about this place Phage? What you think is up?

reply to post by TheBirdisDone

I think it's an ionospheric and magnetospheric research facility. I think the military has an interest in the research because of it's potential impact on communications, intelligence gathering, and asset protection. Something doesn't have to be a weapon to be useful in warfare. I won't deny that the research may lead to weaponry but HAARP is not a weapon.

I also think that the communications industry is very interested in the research. Customers don't like it when the satellite goes down because of a geomagnetic storm. The research at HAARP is looking for ways to predict and deal with that sort of thing.

Boring for some. Not for me.

reply to post by Phage


But there has been a rise in solar activity. And Aurora Austailis...Southern Lights...

reply to post by restlessbrainsyndrome

Yes. Solar activity.
What does that have to do with HAARP and instrument readings from 2 years ago?

reply to post by Phage


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edit, I found it.

question. do you know of a way to get a weather sat image for Honduras on the 28th of 09 to look for some "harrp clouds"??

I want to share this because I have studied HAARP a bit and wrote an essay on the study of the ionosphere...It sheads some new light on further investigation and exploration into exactly what is being studied. With all the conspiracy surrounding HAARP it is hard to discern the truth from fiction sometimes...long story short...I thought this might interest some of you folks:

CASSIOPE's ePOP probe will study upper atmosphere

www.asc-csa.gc.ca...

Hope you enjoy this...and for those that have already read up on e-POP, my apologies.

reply to post by SkipperJohn

You didn't look a the spectrum monitor did you? The one that records the frequencies at which the heater operates. You'll notice that 1.8 Hz signal is very common and does not correlate with any indication that the heater is in operation. You'll notice it appeared for days after the earthquake. You notice that it often appears and there is no earthquake. It has nothing to do with HAARP and it has nothing to do with earthquakes.

question. do you know of a way to get a weather sat image for Honduras on the 28th of 09 to look for some "harrp clouds"??

No. No I don't.
HAARP doesn't make clouds.

Question.

What effect would these low frequencies have on animals who use them for communication?
Elephants and whales.Or birds.
Remember the birds dying in Arkansas in January?

www.msnbc.msn.com...

www.mapoflife.org...

Just a thought.What do you think? Is it worth mentioning?

reply to post by kdog1982

Elephants, birds, and whales do not use radio waves for communication.
They use sound waves. They are not likely to be affected by ELF radiation unless they get very close to high tension power lines.

reply to post by Phage


I understand the difference between the radio and sound waves,in the right medium,
is it possible for radio waves to be propagated into sound waves,or pressure.
Say water,or air with the right mineral makeup.Water or air heavily polluted. Heavy in certain metals or salinity.
A molecule that is excited by EMF could ,in theory,vibrate,therefore causing a sound wave.
Just like a sub-woofer,on a larger scale.

I'm just throwing some theories out there ,thats all.

Ok Phage. I am learning this. So I am sure that has been posted here before regarding the May 11th Japan EQ. Does this look normal?

May 9th

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May 10

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May 11

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May 12

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May 13

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reply to post by kdog1982

No. Not really.

The closest thing you could get is the piezoelectric effect whereby certain types of crystals vibrate in response to an electric current. But electromagnetic radiation is not electricity.

reply to post by SkipperJohn

Ok Phage. I am learning this. So I am sure that has been posted here before regarding the May 11th Japan EQ. Does this look normal?

You need to check the date of the Japan earthquake.

I don't think you can call it normal, the amount of noise is great. But again, there is no indication that the HAARP transmitter was active at the time.

reply to post by Phage


lol. sorry about that. you never try this when your tired huh? I will check march and see.

reply to post by Phage


I am curious Phage. You did not actually respond to SkipperJohn's first question which was are you sure as the date on the spectrum plot is the 8th of May and on the magnetometer plot is the 4th May.

This seems to me to be a very valid question that requires an explanation from you as to how a 4 Hz ELF signal showing between 04:00 and 10:00 UTC on the 4th of May was produced by a signal on the spectrum monitor during the same times 4 days later..

Is HAARP now a time machine as well?

This signal you see on the spectrum monitor interests me however as it appears to have the same, or similar, signature as that which I see on many seismos around the United States, and other places. (Rather like your shower analogy there just happen to be way more seismos in the US than anywhere else.) On previous investigations these have possibly been attributes to heaters in the boreholes or seismo containers, but I am not sure about that. They also seem to turn up in odd places for example on the seismo at Market Rasen in England and on the WLAR seismo in Arkansas. In Market Rasen this signal is attributed to generators and it is so bad that the BGS is decommissioning and moving the station. What I am sating is that there are other things that may possibly cause this signal.

Anyway I look forward to your explanation of the time shift.

reply to post by PuterMan


WLAR is off and not displaying the same signal now. LMK (Market Rasen) looks like this:


You may not see that as the same sort of signal but believe me on a single line plot for 24 hrs it is.

This is 'cultural noise' on a seismo - heaters? Generators? Ski lifts?

BRLK.AK..BHZ (This is only good for about 10 days. It will 404 after that)

reply to post by Phage



A little off topic maybe... Is it possible that HAARP could be used for mind control. I remember reading that different wave lenghs produce different affects in the brain. Is this something in the remit of HAARP?

thank you

reply to post by Phage


Aren't ELF also used by the US Navy for communication with our submarine fleet?

reply to post by Phage

It's nice to see a HAARP thread with an outlook based on science rather than quackery!
Your post got me wondering if HAARP monitoring equipment can detect activity from EISCAT, which is pretty far away, but it's also a lot more powerful than HAARP. However it looks like 3.85 MHz is the lowest frequency EISCAT is intended to use, so that's probably not it since you're showing 2MHz, though that's also below the stated 2.8 - 10 MHz range for HAARP. Since it's so intense on the graph, it would make sense it's coming from HAARP.

Originally posted by purplemer
A little off topic maybe... Is it possible that HAARP could be used for mind control.

I think they are stretching a point to call it "mind control", but here's a Scientific American article on how cell phones might do something like that:
Mind Control by Cell Phone

I think you'd have to be standing very close to the antenna array to even have a chance of the signal affecting your brain, and even then I'd have to do some calculations to see how close you'd have to be to get the same signal strength as a cell phone.
Most of us are far enough away from the antenna array where it's too weak to have any effect. Also, the HAARP frequencies of 2.8 to 10 MHz are different from cell phone frequencies which I think are roughly 800-900 Mhz, though I suppose it's possible the lower frequencies might have an effect if the power was high enough, but I'm not aware of any research on the HAARP frequencies, similar to the cell phone frequency research.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
Aren't ELF also used by the US Navy for communication with our submarine fleet?

I thought he already answered that when he posted this link: www.govexec.com...