Politics is a trap! Don't get obsessed with it!

Early on from age 5 when we are in schools (or at least in the United States) we are taught that everyone needs to be a functioning citizen in Democracy in the US government. We are told that our participation is a requirement and that the power is in the hands of the people in order to change the government or its policies. We need to pay attention to everything that's going on, we need to be able to try to educate the people that don't already know about the truths and the truths behind the truths, we need all of that.

But, DO NOT GET WARPED UP WITH POLITICS. It's much easier to rationalize politics and understand it all if you realize that the symptom of the problem is with the entire US constitution itself, and then once you understand that, you'll understand that all the people that are trying to use the rule of law are the ones trying to implement their social programs, or their economic programs on everyone else. The first anti-federalist paper describes my thoughts on the subject exactly (I will include it down below).

I am not saying to forget about it all. Don't forget about all the people that are trying to oppress us through the courts, and through the patriot act, and through internet oppression, and with the wars... but SOCIETY is being co-opted by psychopaths.

All this time while we are focusing on the wars and focusing on politics or focusing on American Idol or Oprah... these people that are behind the scenes are the ones that are controlling the way we think are the ones that are telling people to focus their time on useless things. It's not bad that people watch television or movies. But they're the ones that are telling people that they should be following Tina Fey, or, SNL, or Friends, and what not. These things are ingrained in our popular culture. These are the people we should be trying to reach out to. We shouldn't necessarily try to only reach out to the people that are already paying attention to politics. What about the people that don't know anything that's going on? What about all the people that are keeping them in this perpetual bubble, and, how they are stuck and not even watching anything good, but, they're watching the same corporate crap that is always shown on television?

As far as the anti-federalist paper is concerned (it's below), I brought that up, because while we're trying to awaken society, we should realize that we're pretty much right now talking to other people that agree with us. We should be talking to the people that DO NOT ALREADY agree with us, and we should be using these political forums more for collaboration, or for planning (not activist, but just in general), etc. I'm just saying-- it's easy to become obsessed with politics and forget that there are other things out there in the world. Call it tunnel vision... call it what you will... I'm just saying not to get obsessed.

I am pleased to see a spirit of inquiry burst the band of constraint upon the subject of the NEW PLAN for consolidating the governments of the United States, as recommended by the late Convention.
If it is suitable to the GENIUS and HABITS of the citizens of these states, it will bear the strictest scrutiny. The PEOPLE are the grand inquest who have a RIGHT to judge of its merits. The hideous daemon of Aristocracy has hitherto had so much influence as to bar the channels of investigation, preclude the people from inquiry and extinguish every spark of liberal information of its qualities. At length the luminary of intelligence begins to beam its effulgent rays upon this important production; the deceptive mists cast before the eyes of the people by the delusive machinations of its INTERESTED advocates begins to dissipate, as darkness flies before the burning taper; and I dare venture to predict, that in spite of those mercenary dectaimers, the plan will have a candid and complete examination.
Those furious zealots who are for cramming it down the throats of the people, without allowing them either time or opportunity to scan or weigh it in the balance of their understandings, bear the same marks in their features as those who have been long wishing to erect an aristocracy in THIS COMMONWEALTH [of Massachusetts].
Their menacing cry is for a RIGID government, it matters little to them of what kind, provided it answers THAT description. As the plan now offered comes something near their wishes, and is the most consonant to their views of any they can hope for, they come boldly forward and DEMAND its adoption.
They brand with infamy every man who is not as determined and zealous in its favor as themselves.
They cry aloud the whole must be swallowed or none at all, thinking thereby to preclude any amendment; they are afraid of having it abated of its present RIGID aspect.
They have strived to overawe or seduce printers to stifle and obstruct a free discussion, and have endeavored to hasten it to a decision before the people can duty reflect upon its properties. In order to deceive them, they incessantly declare that none can discover any defect in the system but bankrupts who wish no government, and officers of the present government who fear to lose a part of their power.
These zealous partisans may injure their own cause, and endanger the public tranquility by impeding a proper inquiry; the people may suspect the WHOLE to be a dangerous plan, from such COVERED and DESIGNING schemes to enforce it upon them. Compulsive or treacherous measures to establish any government whatever, will always excite jealousy among a free people: better remain single and alone, than blindly adopt whatever a few individuals shall demand, be they ever so wise. I had rather be a free citizen of the small republic of Massachusetts, than an oppressed subject of the great American empire. Let all act understandingly or not at all. If we can confederate upon terms that wilt secure to us our liberties, it is an object highly desirable, because of its additional security to the whole. If the proposed plan proves such an one, I hope it will be adopted, but if it will endanger our liberties as it stands, let it be amended; in order to which it must and ought to be open to inspection and free inquiry.
The inundation of abuse that has been thrown out upon the heads of those who have had any doubts of its universal good qualities, have been so redundant, that it may not be improper to scan the characters of its most strenuous advocates. It will first be allowed that many undesigning citizens may wish its adoption from the best motives, but these are modest and silent, when compared to the greater number, who endeavor to suppress all attempts for investigation. These violent partisans are for having the people gulp down the gilded pill blindfolded, whole, and without any qualification whatever. These consist generally, of the NOBLE order of C[incinnatu]s, holders of public securities, men of great wealth and expectations of public office, B[an]k[er]s and L[aw]y[er]s: these with their train of dependents form the Aristocratick combination.

The Lawyers in particular, keep up an incessant declamation for its adoption; like greedy gudgeons they long to satiate their voracious stomachs with the golden bait. The numerous tribunals to be erected by the new plan of consolidated empire, will find employment for ten times their present numbers; these are the LOAVES AND FISHES for which they hunger. They will probably find it suited to THEIR HABITS, if not to the HABITS OF THE PEOPLE. There may be reasons for having but few of them in the State Convention, lest THEIR '0@' INTEREST should be too strongly considered. The time draws near for the choice of Delegates. I hope my fellow-citizens will look well to the characters of their preference, and remember the Old Patriots of 75; they have never led them astray, nor need they fear to try them on this momentous occasion.

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I could delve deeper into politics, but I have no desire to. While I try to stay on top of local politics, I don't care too much for what they do on a federal level, since I disagree with so much of it.

Politics don't make sense.

reply to post by satron


I wasnt saying to completely disregard the importance of politics. I am sorry if my message was not clear. I just think there are other enemies and other problems we have to worry about... such as the dumbing down of pop culture even more than what it is already (how is whoever winning the American idol news?). Dumb shows like Jersey Shore are now hip. As the world is becoming smarter we seem to becoming stupider.

I agree in a sense, politics, EVERYTHING is keeping us from the real truth of life and why our world is so corrupt.

Here is a thread that sort of explains why and how to be free from the 'system'.

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I would completely agree with the line of thinking in that thread. I've often had similar thoughts to it myself. I think what people don't realize is that they have strength in numbers. They end up letting the strength of the aristocratic few outweigh the strength and might of the many. If more people stood up to what was going on around them and they stopped just accepting everything that they're told I think we might have a better shot with actually making change and progress. What is needed is a fundamental altering of human behavior, and, a shift away from the behavior predicted in the Milgram experiments.

The experiment clearly showed that 65 percent would obey authority if required , giving an alternative explanation to the phenomenon of concentration camps . Rather than sadism , the experiment shows , most people are simply obedient when the appropriate stress factors are applied . This experiment , naturally , had a variety of interesting consequences , both for psychology and the study of the later social reaction to the experiment itself . The ‘legend ‘ told to the participants of the experiment was that the scientists were studying the effect of punishment on learning . The subject had to deliver an electric shock when an actor who was playing the role of the learner answered a question incorrectly . Naturally , no real shocks were given . As time passed , the subject was ordered to give progressively “stronger ‘ punishment shocks . Most of the subjects eventually delivered what they thought were high-intensity , potentially lethal shocks in spite of serious distress on the part of the person who was playing the role of the learner . The result also gave interesting variations : many more people stopped earlier when the main scientist was not present in the room and gave his orders by voice , without the use of facial expression when two experimenters who gave conflicting orders were present , the subject halted the instant conflicts in authority began when another “teacher ‘ was present , and started protesting ,most joined into the protest and , finally , if the test subject was not ordered to inflict the pain , but merely to read the words , 37 out of 40 people assumed an instrumental role , and passively watched the scientist inflict pain (Milgram , 1963 . As the Milgram experiment clearly demonstrates , most people will react positively to having authority taken from them . After giving consent ,most will protest weakly , passively . The test subject known as Prozi ,for instance , voiced his complaints , but at being told firmly that the experiment was a necessity , continued to go on (Milgram , 1963 . Despite the fact that , once explained what the experiment was , many people experienced regret , still , quite a few people trusted authority .

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