Why Most Relationships Fail Right From The Beginning. (A Quantum Explanation.)

reply to post by Scorpitarius


I think this is great. Like you said, many people will not be able to understand relationships with others on this deep of a level. Most of us create and establish our "self", our self identification, who we are, through other people, insofar as other material objects. Thus we try to find our balance in reaction to these things, not within ourselves and that is literally impossible.

This is not just some "New Age" fluff as many of you say. "Energy" is just a word, a label, to communicate what is not absolutely describable, just as the words "spirit", "Self", "consciousness" and "God" are. You are "energy beings" whether you like it or not. Energy is the underlying driver of movement. Your thoughts and emotions are movement, your physical body and the atoms it is made of is movement. In fact, all material forms are a manifestation of energy becoming more dense. So to find the 'center' or balance of this 'energy' within yourself is the ultimate means of remaining stable, which is the essential foundation for any healthy relationship.

A healthy outward relationship between two people begins and ends with a healthy inward relationship between the mind/body and the "energy" ("soul"/"spirit"/"Self"/"God") that gives life to both. Everything else needed will follow as it should.

Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by srsen

 

It is quite hard though when one person in a relaionship understands and accepts such ideals, but the other doesn't. This can lead to a greater imbalance and difficulties.

Meaning a head full of New Age fluff is an impediment to any meaningful adult relationship? Sounds about right.

Yeah what were we thinking everyone should know close minded arrogance is the driving force that has moved humanity forward through out history...

I just woke up and scrolled trough ATS and dude you take the words out of my mind, this was a very good read! Very!

You completely hit the point, and this is how I feel things to. I say hi to tree's, whistle back at birds (

you been reading the Celestine prophecy Scorpitarius?

-bob

reply to post by AQuestion

Never apologize for disagreeing with someone...though I can see you were trying to ensure I'm not offended by your disbelief, I appreciate that.
I actually agree with a lot of what you say. That energy is a material explanation of consciousness

I do not believe we are energy, that is a material explanation of consciousness, that doesn't work for me.

By this, am I correct in assuming you believe we are made of consciousness? If so, we agree 100%. While it's true that the atom, and therefore energy, is the physical manifestation of consciousness, the energy does still exist. I use the energy of the atom to explain relationships because, although all in existence is a fluid consciousness, we are still stuck in the physical reality of energy. It would have been much harder for me to help people understand what I was explaining if I used only consciousness.
If you are interested, I have an article about consciousness here Just click on the link titled Truth on the left hand side.
I agree that emotions definitely run our lives, I'm curious, since everything needs to be powered, right down to ever function of the human body, what powers our emotions, if not energy?

The solution is to be with people who are growing at a similar place, others that have learned to love as we love. In that way we increase love together because neither gets more unless we both learn together. I like my description, yours is pretty good too; but, I believe mine is more defensible. I can prove we are emotional beings. But, you know you are and that we all are.

I agree 100%.Thank you so much for your comment and opinions.
Peace and One Love

reply to post by Astyanax


Hi. I'm pretty certain I touched briefly on the fact that every atom in existence is made of pure energy, as determined by such physicists as Einstein, whom you called for.
I assume, since you seem to have knowledge of quantum physics that you already knew this, aside from reading my article? So perhaps, though you already knew the answer, you are just trying to make me feel as if I failed? Or perhaps just trying to motivate others into feeling I failed?
Perhaps I am wrong, but it is my belief that if you have an interest in and knowledge of quantum mechanics, you would have seen it in my article.
I do thank you for your response.
Peace and One Love

reply to post by Astyanax


I don't feel my teachings are new age. Though I don't know a true definition of new age, so forgive me if I am wrong. I am describing something that predates new age or any other religion. I am describing the universe according to how God created it (I will state here that we have been lied to about the true nature of God.)
Thank you for seeking clarification
Peace and One Love

reply to post by Vadda


I agree that the universe does feel, as we do. everything in it is made of loving conscious energy, so the default emotion is Love. Other emotions will occur when the love starts to lower in frequency. Lack of, or Loss of love is one of the most painful moments in someones life. There is a reason for that!
Thank you for your comment;
Peace and One Love

Great post so far, gotta come back to read the rest though.
~good day and much love~

reply to post by Im a Marty


While I agree communication is extremely detrimental in any relationship, in fact has been called the cornerstone...it is not the ONLY foundation. Couples can communicate amazingly, but still one part could be cheating. Just one example.
But I do agree with you the rest of the way; thank you for sharing.
Peace and One Love

reply to post by hawkiye


Thank you very much for this, I have read your quote from the article you shared and I intend to read it in it's entirety. It's awesome so far....thank you so much for sharing.
It helps to learn I am not the only one who thinks as I do and that, in fact, others have thought it before me. Gives me faith in what I believe in. I appreciate it
Peace and One Love

reply to post by NightGypsy


Thank you for reading and for the encouragement.
Peace and One Love!

I have another theory, since we're in this school to compassionate and understand, to forgive and get along, to offer healing. Though not always in proximity, sometimes safety means doing so at a distance, but still striving for that.

en.wikipedia.org...

Here is the best physchological theory. Most relationships are imago, which is the recording in childhood of the parent that gave you the most strife, and who prevented you from being whole, so your partner is in essence your psyche trying to heal. For those who wake up and become healing partners to each other, this is a good thing, healing your childhood, but of course some of its just aggression and impossible to be safe in.

However, think about it carefully, there are no accidents, and no coincidences in this cosmic school that we're learning love in. We all know our families and there is often different energies there, perhaps one could say, we didn't get along in the past during star wars or angel wars, and we're here to heal that up. There is often past soul events.

reply to post by LifeIsEnergy

Thank you for the compliment and I'm very glad you enjoyed it.

Most of us create and establish our "self", our self identification, who we are, through other people, insofar as other material objects. Thus we try to find our balance in reaction to these things, not within ourselves and that is literally impossible.

This was an awesome point. I sought within myself for a long time, and still do, to determine what parts of myself have come from other individuals. (For example, I had a friend in high school who was always very calm and cool....I like what I saw in him and somehow adopted that calm and cool-ness from him, though I think it was a subconscious act on my part. I think sometimes that every part of my personality is actually someone Else's.)
I thank you for your backup regarding this topic, heh heh. I've noticed a few accusations that what I'm saying is new age...while I don't have a problem with that, neither do I really know what new age is. And since what I'm saying is what is, it wasn't created by any new age, or otherwise, religion.
Thank you for you comment and glad you enjoyed the thread.
Peace and One Love!

reply to post by sevensheeps


very glad you enjoyed the thread. Thank you for the words of encouragement.
Peace and One Love

Originally posted by AQuestion
[ In this life, in regards to relationships, we are told to experiment and find the right after finding all the wrongs. We will never find love that way, it would be a miracle. If all you know is the false, how can you identify the truth?

You cannot appreciate the other person's range unless you understand your own and choose someone who has the same range, not greater and not less, not the leader and not the follower, the partner. That is my take on it. Be well.

I like old people. I always have, ever since I was a little child. And what I have learned about relationships is that the people with the best relationships are NOT the people who choose the perfect person. But the people who commit to an imperfect person, and who learn to work with what they have, develop love that is unconditional rather than selfish and self serving, and who stick by their partner no matter what happens.

The people I know who hold hands, exchange knowing looks and stroke one anothers hair, who bathe their weaker loved one, because they cannot, these are not people whose every day was bliss. These are people who committed to one another and stuck through the marriage even though every day was NOT bliss. They fought, they hurt one another, they made up, they fought some more, they became bored, they issued ultimatums, but they stayed together.

I do not believe that love is the matter of finding the right person. I believe love is a matter of BEING the right person with someone who is similarly willing to commit. It doesnt take the same range and depth. It takes a similar willingness to work, and stay, and try and try again.

I dont ask younger people who are searching for love and good relationships how to have them. Even at 6, 8, 10 I knew that to understand a thing you asked someone who had been doing it successfully for their whole adult life.

Finding the perfect person is not what these "masters" of relationship tell me is most important. Commitment, for better or worse, in sickness and in health, for as long as you both shall live is what they tell me is the "secret" to a long and good relationship.

When you go into a relationship thinking that it is about the other person, you are off on the wrong foot.

My two cents, borrowed from a lot of old people I know.

reply to post by B.Morrison


I've read the Celestine Prophecies and it's accompanying books a few times. It was a great foundation to my understandings of energy, though only a starting point.
I recommend the book to anyone and everyone.
Peace and One Love

This is why I don't want to be in a relationship. I don't want to have issues like this. The only way for me to be in a relationship is to change my mind

reply to post by Unity_99


That's awesome, thank you for bringing that to my attention.
I would almost take it a step further...though I have my qualms with the Bible, I recognize some of it's truths. One is when Jesus would say that to enter heaven one must become like a child. I think this means to remember the fascination (hence Love) we had for everything in creation. the Imago therapy seems to bring us back to our childhood to a certain degree, might fit with that. Having a child also serves to act as that reminder, I think.
Thank you so much for providing this information.
Peace and One Love!

Originally posted by SystemResistor
Lover type relationships fail after they fail to have children, their indulgence in thier emotions eventually de-activates thier desires as there is no "result".

Its all a part of our botchy programming

Studies actually show that having children, not failing to have children, creates the most misery in a relationship. Sometimes the fact of children holds people together through the difficult period of "parenting" and they couple rediscover each other as individuals after the children leave. (It acts as a proxy commitment, staying together "for the children.")

Relationships built on passion with the expectation that passion is the goal of relationship fail because passion has a very limited lifespan. It will bring you together, but it cant keep you together, as it simply doesnt last long enough. Which is where commitment comes in. Having children or not having children isnt really the point, or unmarried pregnant women would not so often find themselves abandoned. They find themselves abandoned not because they failed to produce, (obviously) but because their partner was looking for passion, and a child is commitment. And when commitment became a reality, they fled.