Erik Lawyer from Firefighters for 9/11 Truth Interviewed

This thread is like something out of the twilight zone. There is either cognitive dissonance on an epic scale, or complete and outright lying going on here. Anyone on the fence on this issue, needs to recognize this simple fact, based on how this thread has gone thus far.
I'm hearing debunkers attempting to convince "truther's" that the video posted shows no evidence for molten steel at ground zero.
For those who want to simply skim the video, let me make it simple:

:10 A still shot of a crane lifting molten steel from ground zero

1:03 NYFD sitting at a table emphatically discussing the molten steel running through the channel-ways at ground zero

3:55 Ken Holden testifying under oath to the levels of molten steel found at ground zero.

4:30 A pastor I presume discussing the amazing cross that survived ground zero amongst the molten metal, but sustaining minor damage of droplets of molten steel embedding the cross

4:53 Some person off camera discussing the super heated "red steel" coming out of ground xero weeks after9/11

5:04 Some government official in a suit being asked about molten steel found at ground zero and he mentions this is the first he has heard of that and he knows of no one else who has reported molten steel at ground zero, but he would love to see those reports. Sure.

5:30 Thermal imaging of ground zero showing high levels of molten steel scattered practically everywhere.

There was much more evidence stated, but these are the highlites.

Originally posted by plube
reply to post by Classified Info

 

I just seen you in another thread where you say...I have been reasearching this for the past three years....so i guess you yourself have not moved on....funny thing that...Ridiculing others for the exact thing your doing....when are you going to move on.

You need to get your eyes checked there J.O. or do you just like making things up? Are you getting that desperate?

Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by thegameisup

 

Stop spreading lies, molten metal was reported by many, as were explosions!

Suffering from auditory hallucinations again.......

Where do they show any molten metal ?

Only thing I saw was smoke/steam escaping from the underground fires when the backhoe removed the
overlying debris

As for melting - they mention that the steel toe rubber boots were melting from heat, not the steel the rubber

Only person lying is you ......

I will assume this post of yours was a serious (although rude) post, and somehow you missed the molten steel. I really do not know how this is possible assuming your intentions are honorable, but I feel it is best to give people the benefit of the doubt.

I can help you find the evidence in the video, it was not at all hard actually:
:10 A still shot of a crane lifting molten steel from ground zero

1:03 NYFD sitting at a table emphatically discussing the molten steel running through the channel-ways at ground zero

3:55 Ken Holden testifying under oath to the levels of molten steel found at ground zero.

4:30 A pastor I presume discussing the amazing cross that survived ground zero amongst the molten metal, but sustaining minor damage of droplets of molten steel embedding the cross

4:53 Some person off camera discussing the super heated "red steel" coming out of ground xero weeks after9/11

5:04 Some government official in a suit being asked about molten steel found at ground zero and he mentions this is the first he has heard of that and he knows of no one else who has reported molten steel at ground zero, but he would love to see those reports. Sure.

5:30 Thermal imaging of ground zero showing high levels of molten steel scattered practically everywhere.

There was much more evidence stated, but these are the highlites.

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by _BoneZ_

 

There were signs of explosives and incendiaries being used at the WTC and none of those were tested for. The forensic testing should have been done to determine what caused the explosions and molten steel found at the WTC. And there really is no logical way around this fact.

And exactly which facts are those? "Signs" of explosives and incendiaries? Since when was that declared a "fact"? Molten steel? Is that now a fact?

Signs are in the eye of the beholder, I'm afraid. In fact, I could just as easily say that there were no signs of explosives or incendiaries and of course, no signs of molten steel.

Please see my post pointing the way to the molten steel reports in the video that was posted in this thread.

Just trying to help

reply to post by crawdad1914


Yeah, because firemen, vicars and "some guy" are definitely authorities on whether a molten metal is steel.

Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
reply to post by crawdad1914

 

Yeah, because firemen, vicars and "some guy" are definitely authorities on whether a molten metal is steel.

Peter Tully of Tully Construction who said “literally molten steel”, and Mark Loizeaux of Controlled Demolition, Inc. who said ,“Yes, hot spots of molten steel in the basements at the bottom of the elevator shafts of the main towers, down seven levels... “three, four, and five weeks later, when the rubble was being removed,” or Leslie Robertson, structural engineeer who helped design the buildings who said “As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running,”, aren't vicars, are they? They know quite alot about steel actually or are you going to call them liars and loons like you do everybody else?

There was molten steel at WTC, the more you guys try to dance around it, the more ridiculous and contrite you seem, you're actually doing us a favor as most folks find your ceaseless condescension compelling justificatoin for further research on their own, no one likes to listen to an angry sounding barking dog all day, day after day after day, thread after thread after thread.

Eric the firefighter and true patriot puts all youwz debunkas too shame!

How embarrassing and humiliating it must be getting to still be a debunka!

Maybe it's time for you guys to change your avatar and monikers, man-up, wise-up and come over to the truth side of da fence!

Don't worry though we truthers will forgive you, it's in our nature.

~Namaste

reply to post by twitchy


You might want to send an email to those gents about your last post. Might be a bit illuminating to you

reply to post by vipertech0596


Yeah, presto chango, I might even get my own TV show like Mark Loizeaux did if I learn to sing and dance to the right tune.

reply to post by twitchy


Presto changeo nothing. They have been saying for over a decade now that people were lying about them.

Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by twitchy

 

Presto changeo nothing. They have been saying for over a decade now that people were lying about them.

Yeah, because dey been payed offf. It's common knowledge you can pay anyone to lie about anything. Except Truthers. They are the bwavest of all.

Unfortunately for those who continue to try to lie about the presence of molten steel at the WTC site, Mark Loizeax confirmed molten steel on more than one occasion, was he lying AGAIN, when he said, "Molten steel was encountered primarily during excavation of debris around the south tower when large hydraulic excavators were digging trenches 2 to 4 meters deep into the compacted burning debris pile. There are both video tape and still photos of the molten steel being dipped out by the buckets of the excavators."?

How about Captain Ruvolo who said, "You get down below and you see Molten Steel... molten seel running down the channel ways, like you're in a foundry." or Richard Riggs, a debris removal specialist on site also said, "The fires got very intense down there and actually melted beams where it was molten steel that was being dug up." Were they lying as well? Is everybody that saw the literal pools and rivers of molten steel on site liars? Some of these first responders are true honest to God heroes, you going to call them liars as well? Please do so you can show ATS and the world how utterly low you have to go to help perpetuate a lie.

Sorry guys, I know that molten steel is a major stumbling block for the OS, but it was confirmed, well documented, videotaped, photographed, collected and analyzed by even the EPA and widely reported. Must be frustrating, but I hope when this finallly surfaces, guys like you sit in a court room charged with accessory after the fact for your nefarious efforts here and on other websites.

Originally posted by twitchy
guys like you sit in a court room charged with accessory after the fact for your nefarious efforts here and on other websites.

edit on 21-7-2012 by twitchy because: (no reason given)

And bang, there it is. The fantasy court room and the fantasy death penalty for the fantasy shills.

reply to post by twitchy


Hey there do not worry...there wasn't any molten metal....there wasn't any witnesses saying there were explosions...there wasn't any quick removal of evidence...there wasn't conflicting NIST and FEMA reports...there wasn't any commission members saying the investigation was setup to fail....there was WMD in Iraq...There were Al Quaeda hijackers....there were sub standard construction in the towers...The truss seats held up the entire towers...there was no connection between the bush family and the flight school...there were no dancing israelis....there was no mention of bombs in trucks....there were no fighter available....they did not know the planes were hijacked until it was to late....It is normal for planes to just ignore communications and change flight paths...It is normal to not investigate for exotic accelerators when molten metal is found...oh right...no molten metal was found....Can't believe witnesses anyways...unless it is from the OS perspective.

Yet what is strangest of all....It was perfectly normal that on four separate occasions box cutter wielding individuals were able to over take four individual aircrafts...and fly them unheeded on four different occasions...
this is ok and normal as far as OSer's feel go figure....If they were told it was purple people from uranus that did it .....It would be ok because that is what they were told....You see we are told as truthers that we are losing this search for truth...yet the names that come in here for truthers keep expanding and changing....but from the OS side it is only the ten same individuals that keep trying to wash things away....now that is strange...also they only ever come into 9/11 threads...like they don't have opinion on any of the other vast and interesting topics that go on in ATS.

reply to post by TrickoftheShade


You forgot the fantasy OS in your list. Although the OS is fantasy, you lot of OS defenders are very much a reality, a sad reality at that.

Anyway, you cannot dispute what fireman Erik Lawyer is saying, no matter how hard you try.

reply to post by thegameisup


Yep, the Seattle firefighter is an acknowledged expert on the events at the WTC that day. Really scraping the bottom of the barrel.....

reply to post by thegameisup

Anyway, you cannot dispute what fireman Erik Lawyer is saying, no matter how hard you try.

Read some of the comments on FIREHOUSE forum responding to this retard

They consider him a loon and a disgrace......

These are from other FF including some FDNY members who were there ......

www.firehouse.com...

Originally posted by thedman
Read some of the comments on FIREHOUSE forum responding to this retard

They consider him a loon and a disgrace......

Ah, yes. Because calling someone names automatically counters anything they have to say and kills their credibility.

Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by thegameisup

 

Anyway, you cannot dispute what fireman Erik Lawyer is saying, no matter how hard you try.

Read some of the comments on FIREHOUSE forum responding to this retard

They consider him a loon and a disgrace......

These are from other FF including some FDNY members who were there ......

www.firehouse.com...

This is my favorite part right here.

I just hurt myself. I fell off the chair laughing. This friggin' moron is lecturing ME about NFPA 921. ME! You may not be hear to name call and insult, but I am.