Media Silence, Reason for Concern

reply to post by duckyfresh


Unfortunately the solution isn't the problem. There a million and one ways to fix what's wrong with the world. The problem isn't that we can't think of a better way to do things. It's that THEY WON'T LET US. So even if we had the most perfect plan for society mapped out it won't be allowed to take root because it means a loss of power to those that currently possess it.

It's really very simple. It takes a certain psychopathic psychology to get to the upper echelons of power that these people gotten to and they don't intend to give it up. In fact I dare say they are so insane they would rather burn it all to the ground if they can't control it. They know they losing control and that's why there is so much chaos right now.

Divide and concur, simple but effective.

Well as i was once told always watch the news....but i was told it by a very smart individual....as they were saying always watch the news for what ISN'T there.

The news does not report what is going on in the world it reports what isn't going on in the world....the OLD read between the lines bit.

just as Greatalready was stating ......read between his lines and he is trying to be something......

the world does is not in need of more leaders so that more followers can just tow the party line.....each and every individual needs to start making choices for themselves....

people ask what can we do as people ....well pay attention and dont support the corporates....how many of you still go to starbucks for your overpriced coffee....how many of you use AOL.....how many of you still are so delusional that you think you should pay your taxes to support the wars and and support all the tax stuck ontop of your fuel prices.

How many of you still think that the Goverment is for the good of the people (no matter who is in power).

Once in power and people are given power it goes to theirs heads....have none of you seen the studies.

even the person with the most humble demeaner gets swayed once in power.

Now the question is....Why does true Communisn not work....the answer is when one reaches the point of power it turns into a dictatorship. GREED!

the answer is not in the people the answer is how the Illuminati sees it....They see the power is in the slaugther of the people.....The actions of the forementioned OP when things are not diccussed by the news are the things that are leading right down this path that the TPTB are taking and they are diong well with it.....but have no fear....because for all that goes on the the world.....and with all the strife and hardships the human race has endured the population has always been growing......so why the worries.

Answer:




There are approximately 490,000 babies born every day worldwide.


The UN Population Division prospects an increase of population from 6.512.276.000 (2005) to 6.908.688.000 (2010).

That means a net increase of 396,412,000 people in five years, meaning a net increase of 217,212 people/day or 150 more people/minute.

Source: Population Division of the Department of Economic and Social Affairs of the United Nations Secretariat, World Population Prospects: The 2008 Revision, http:/esa.un.org/unpp, Friday, June 26, 2009; 3:41:46 AM.

It is estimated that approximately 250,000 to 300,000 people die each day (see wiki.answers.com...).

250,000 deaths per day is 173 deaths per minute. If there are 173 deaths per minute and a net increase of 150 people per minute, then there are 323 births per minute. (+323/min - 173/min = +150/min).

300,000 deaths per day is 208 deaths per minute. If there are 208 deaths per minute and a net increase of 150 per minute, then there are 358 births per minute. (+358/min - 208/min = +150/min).

323 births/minute is 465,120 births/day. 358 births/minute is 515,520 births/day. The average of these two is 340 births/minute or 489,600 births/day.

Read more: wiki.answers.com...

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Now if the above stats are true we only need to increase the number of deaths per day by another 240,000 people per day to create a non growth situation........and then go above that to create a a negative growth situation....so not to much work to be done on that score then.

the Question is how have you chosen to live your life....follow suit of those before you....step into the 9-5 job at wal mart....feed your family and continue to starve yourself as you feed the rich.....tell me then who is the one feeding the habits of the wealthy.....did you follow suit as you were in school and not paying attention to achieving a higher education so that you could further your chance of success in life.....followed the path of others into the world of working your a$$ off for the MAN.

the solution is in each and everyone of of us.....to recognise what is being done to you and to take steps to better yourselves......your online right....you have access to a world of knowledge through the internet and tell me what you are doing with your time...are you sitting and reading conspiracy sites or are you learning about the things that will help you when the time comes when you have to vacate your homes....when your money becomes worthless...when you have to become a traveller with the bare essentials to survive....are you learning to become self sufficient and how to survive on the scraps of humanity....have you been learning what will become physical valuables that are going to worthy of trade when your trying to survie in devastated areas.

I know ....sounds a bit glum does it not.....have you heard the term the meek shall inherit the Earth.....think about the reason for this......you have a dumpster diver and a lawyer....you palce them both into and third world situation with no money no food and no means to survive other then the crumbs of society.....tell me who you would place your bets on.

When saddam fell.....what happened....the people raided the palace....they pilaged the goverment offices and they took what they could get hold of for themselves......The thoughts here follow the line of the OP.....what the news for what isn't there in order to see what is about to come......It is not doom and gloom.....it is coming to a change in the world...and there will be uphieval during this change......but the outcome may end up being a good one...and who knows....maybe there will be peace for all mankind in turn.....but people need to learn how to survive in the interim.

love life and live life with love.

reply to post by TiM3LoRd


I'm sorry if this sounds.. I don't know.. combative? But "they won't let us".. isn't good enough. There are plenty of things "they" can't stop us from seeing, and if things like Double Rainbow can go viral, so can ideals like this.

As if we don't have enough to worry about.

Now (as always) Hollywood has been herding us to some kind of alien ET encounter paradigm with movies like Skyline, Battle of Los Angeles, War of the Worlds, Day the Earth Stood Still, They Live, Stargate, etc, etc, ad nauseas etc.

And now NASA, Google, the Vatican (which own and operates Lucifer Binocular Telescope in AZ) appear to be covering-up (but following) the approach of an alleged planet-X orbiting our brown dwarf star neighbor (partnered with our star’s SO(u)LAR system) doing the gravitational "waltz of the spheres". Our sun may be one half of a binary star system with non-luminous low-mass dark star (as Google/CIA would have us believe with counter-intel). We're getting primed for the next level of Robert Antwan Wilson's "Operation Mind Fuch" in his Illuminati trilogy.

This summer is going to be one hell of a ride for us surface dwellers as we are all spun-up to the PsyOps of the 2012 Agenda. It's rumored that Rockefeller, Gates, and other elite families are bunkering down in India. In these posh underground cities there are sound stage replicas of the offices in the Kremlin, Queen's Room of Buckingham Palace, the White House Oval office, and others so it appears that world leaders are sticking it out with their people to the bitter end. This Sumer and Fall, at the very least we may not be bored, just frightfully entertained by regional false/terror/flag hot spots; Or, at the very worst, nothing will be alive (or un-radiated) on the surface.

When it comes to our physical/mental future on planet earth, my highest loftiest peaks of optimism are miles upon miles deeper than your lowest pits of pessimism.

Cheer-up, things are far worse than they seem. The Good News is that "your personal spiritual" Peace and Freedom can be divinely and permanently snatched from the forces of a hellishly chaotic existence in the collective unconscious of eternity.

There is no physical or mental escape from what's coming, there is only spiritual destruction or salvation. We battle not against flesh and blood but powers and principalities (as the GOoD book says).

reply to post by Ghost375


so true man ^^

Unfortunately you're right.
Haha as i was writing this i just saw on the news that Obama signed the wrong date in abbey visitor's book.
Apparently it's 2008 ?

www.telegraph.co.uk...

from the very moment i saw what attention Schwarzenegger's case was given, i knew we were screwed

We are just another side of the same proletariat, thinking we are free in our minds at least, when in reality we are nothing more than rats in a maze.

reply to post by sbctinfantry


I agree...
Its about time people start to realize it by looking a little farther than their nose.

Just accept that Americans have created chaos themselves by allowing all the BS to occur. Gone the days where you would actually not be politically correct and revolt against the powers that be. But sadly you're all too scared. all I know where I live, the people stick together and not let TPTB walk all over you. It's historic to see that for the best part of 60 odd years, the citizens of the USA have allowed these groups to build such power that you can't help but be the way you are all made. gullible and easily controlled.

For example, Obama gained power on the premise of bringing the troops home. There were millions of you that screamed that they should come home. And voted with this deluded idea that as soon as he gets into power he was going to bring the troops home. So what happens. Firstly he comes out and says "I am going to bring home a small percentage of them but keep most there for now as I have been told by my military advisers that it's not something we can do without making things worse" then he increases the troop presense in Afghanistan as well. Not to mention keeping Guantanimo open. So my point is that you will do whatever your told and believe whatever sounds good at the time. Open your eyes. They are not in power for you nor do they care.

As for natural disasters, again gullible to think we could live on this planet for ever and they aren't going to help. Otherwise everyone would have underground, self efficient homes safe from most disasters. Instead with the knowledge of all things apocalyptic continue to build quick homes that don't stand a chance in hell of surviving most disasters. but go on take out that mortgage and build a hide in tornado alley with no basement. Also have insurance cover that costs a fortune and how much help will you receive.

I can go on and on, from 9/11 to landing on the moon. I hate Americans because of they way you think and live.

In hindsight the worst thing Americans have done is break from the commonwealth. You base your liberty on that historical event. Yet if you look at it now, it's kinda funny. your all alone.

Gullible gullible. My word for the day

yes, the situation can really not get any worse. The only real solution is to educate people, keep waking them up.
Alex is doing a great job on that.

I read this passage in D.Estulins book that basically sums up this mass apathy.

Bilderberg goals

- A state of Perpetual imbalance
By artificially manufacturing crises that will put people under continual duress, physically, mentally and emotionally - it is possible to keep people in a perpetual state of imbalance. Too tired and strung to decide their own destinies, populations will be confused and demoralized to the extend that '' faced with with too many choices, apathy on a massive scale will result''.
pg.42

Its unfortunate, people really do not realize the tyranny that is about to unfold. I know that feeling you describe, that '' you deserve what you are getting for your apathetic sheep like condition'' I carry this around a lot to be honest, sometimes I just want to scream at people.

The main argument I keep hearing over and over is that ''as long am im left alone im fine with anything''. And Im trying to tell them ''you arent going to be left alone, they will come after you, you are going to lose every bit of freedom you have left'' And that is where they just shut off completely.

What can we do? Wait for a miracle and keep trying to get people to listen.

However there a few things going on that can really save us, something the public can work on.

And that is one : Their weakness for child abuse, pedophilia and ritual abuse. A few cases have become public now and the biggest up so far is the Hollie Greig case. If we keep supporting the people of Scotland to rise like lions we could bring down Scotland and England, because all the evidence suggest that the entire British system is full of pedophiles and child molesters. Something people have saying for years.

Then in the US people are investigating the pentagon because they found child porn everywhere in the computer system, they are investigating 5000 employees. This is huge. We can than bring the Boyz Town/ conspiracy of silence scandal back to life. And all the # that CPS has been and is doing. I mean there really is an entire underground child traffic pedophile network run by the white house. There is no doubt in my mind.

And the next one is the Obama case. This is fantastic, we can really take him down. People need to stop looking at this as a racist matter, this man is about to destroy the US and everything it stands for. Every weapon that can be used to get him out of office should be utilized.

With all the fluoride, gmo's, possible chem trails, radiation and that's just what we know about that they are doing to us every day.

I mean if their goal is to dumb down the people and make them comply, American Idol is the #1 show on tv, so it must be working.

reply to post by getreadyalready


Well said ... you obviously thought about this a lot .. as have many people i guess ...
I agree with what you say ... the bits i understood anyway

If i could just add to the teaching ... not to have darwinian evolution as the only only choice, and forcibly teach certain aspects of evolution as fact ,which are still yet to be actually proven .. the otehr choice being, give people the option to spend their time learning on creation instead, if they choose to do so ... and likewise .. the aspects of creation which are impossible to prove (which are many .. same as evolution at this time ), should be taught as such .. a theory rather than certain fact

Apologies if its off topic a bit ... but would be a massive improvement also, to have this choice in education

ATS has potential budding journalists all over the world ... and a medium for reporting it ...

I think BBC and the likes work in a similar way .. where, they have a set up where they can link up with freelance journalists in most countries .. that report as though they work for the BBC ??

... im sure ive seen this happen on many occasions .. or something similar

there is potential for certain members on ATS from each country to do a similar role (the best they can as their resources allow) .. obviously voluntary in this case .. i suspect there are many members on here .. with the knowledge, understanding, some resources, and the will and determination to find out whats really going on around them, and report openly and honestly ATS .. or an ATS video

i realise that's not too unsimilar to what's already happening ... the difference being .. its increasingly hard to find the well thought out, good credible reporting here on ATS, amongst all the junk that seems to be increasing daily ...
In the case of certain members having ATS journalist status .. their posts would be far easier for ALL ats members to find, due to their status ... and can be isolated from the general random mess that is becoming ATS daily (no offence anyone) ...

Anyway .. im just thinking out loud, and havent really woke up yet ... I might delete this post after i drink my coffee and reality kicks in

Originally posted by getreadyalready
We can't control natural disasters, but we can help a lot with tort reform, limiting frivolous lawsuits, helping get more rescuers and volunteers on the ground after a disaster. We can also invest money into infrastructure and technology and upgrade our domestic situation instead of bailing out international corporations and failing business plans. I think Obama mentioned some of that stuff in his campaign, but he quickly switched to the dark side and paid off the corporations instead.

(note I'm in the UK but nevertheless)
And when corporate directors bleat on about taxes or else they will leave....let them. Supply and demand kicks in wherever they end up has more CEO's than demand requires......they will then come back tail between the legs.

We can do away with many stupid criminal laws that don't have a clear victim, like consenting prostitution and a popular herb. We could tax those industries and divert the law enforcement power to real crimes.

Quite agree. Huge problem here though due to the religious right whose take on this has nothing to do with what works! That is the battle ground here. But you could then ensure prostitutes have medicals, drug users get clean drugs in accurate doses and this all reduces costs to the state when things no longer go wrong AND it gets taxes from both. Win win and no more drug barons, pimps, street crawling, discarded needles etc etc etc
Fact : drug use is higher in the US where it is all illegal than in holland where some of it is not.

We could fix the tax code to make it short, simple, and fair. There are several plans out there that would be acceptable to me. A Flat Tax for everything over $30k would be decent. The so-called "Fair Tax" would be ok. The "Consumption Tax" or basically a National Sales Tax would be ok. As long as it is simple to interpret, hard to dodge, and everyone pays.

Not quite: Go the whole hog and do away with all benefits and yet have a safety net which is an entirely civilised thing to do. So tax GROSS income (even if zero) of EVERYBODY! with a flat rate and apply a post tax state allowance (= benefit/state pension etc) of EVERYBODY. Net income for average earners remains the same. the advantage is that you no longer need means testing for those in temporary hardship. Huge advantage is that for every penny earned you are ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED to be better off. Current benefit systems are counterproductive to encouraging work hence the crusading right wing complaining but are oblivious to genuine no fault hardship.
Remember with this system anybody who works no matter what they do is always better off then somebody who doesn't. In addition why force somebody who does not want to work.......they might end up driving a school bus.....or a lollipop man. I'd rather a shister was given x pounds to stay out of harms way.

We could fix healthcare and insurance industries by fixing tort reform, subsidizing research and making more drugs and treatments available faster and cheaper, and controlling the costs of healthcare. This would bring everyone's costs down, get rid of the fraudulent and dishonest industry it has become, and putting more responsibility for treatment options in the hands of patients and doctors.

We have an NHS which does work but could do better. Nobody wants it privatised except owners of insurance companies and those with a far right political ideology. Hence why our Tory gov is having a hell of time with its health reforms DUH. Listen to the people !

We could let bad businesses fail. Sure, it will create unemployment temporarily, but it will also reduce the supply side of the equation, and create an environment that fosters innovation and creativity. Remember the old adage, "innovation is born out of necessity."????? When we save the failing businesses, we remove necessity and kill the innovation. Imagine if all those GM workers hit the streets with their years of experience and ideas, and they found a few dozen start up companies willing to put them to work? Instead of encumbering future generations with taxes, instead we would have a dozen budding businesses with new ideas and new products and new opportunities for the next generation! The same goes for banks. Let their chickens come home to roost. They were fraudulent and deceptive and they should be bankrupt.

Nationalise the banks and essential industries! Sorry I know that is a swear word in the US but the "business" of banks is necessary and they do have an affect on our incomes (they have our savings). So allowing failed banks to collapse is not practical. Instead nationalise them so that we own the resources and modify the business model so they work for "we the people" not the few corporate owners.
Industries providing the basics of a civilised society should also be under state control : gas, electricity, water, transport infrastrucure etc. It is ironic that here in the UK Thatcher privatised most of this and it is now in foreign hands......some of which are foreign state companies !!!!!!!!!!!! I mean how freaking warped is that ideology!

We could fix Education by realizing not everyone is going to be a Doctor or Lawyer or Engineer. Not everyone needs Calculus or French class. Widen the parameters of instruction, let some people become excellent in some other field like welding or automechanics or plumbing. Let the academics excel in academics and let the others excel in something that fits their unique skillset. Stop educating to the masses and start educating at a state and local level to the individual. Teach Civics! Teach more World history, and literature, and geography!

I would add that we should encourage learning (college/university) in required fields. So if we are short of plumbers then plumbing courses are subsidised wheras if you want to study the history of 15th century french art you pay for it!
Spot on with history. If we don't learn from the past we are doomed to make the same mistakes (i'm sure somebody famous said that once!)

We could fix racism by stopping all special agendas and projects and just enforcing the anti-discrimination laws. Prosecute those people that clearly make judgements based on color of skin, but stop requiring quotas and affirmative action. HUD and Real Estate professionals actually have a pretty good handle on this, other industries could emulate their policies and laws.

Postive discrimination is actually discrimination against those it does not apply to!

Please feel free to add, polish, streamline, or point out the glaring problems with that "platform" because I might just use it in the near future!!

OK

Originally posted by duckyfresh
reply to post by TiM3LoRd

 

I'm sorry if this sounds.. I don't know.. combative? But "they won't let us".. isn't good enough. There are plenty of things "they" can't stop us from seeing, and if things like Double Rainbow can go viral, so can ideals like this.

all good and well in theory. But the reason youtube vids like double rainbow have gone viral is because people like dumb sh!t!! The BIG question is WHY?? WHY are they so easily entertained by non intelligent media that lacks substance and purpose? why is a show where home videos of people getting their balls smashed in by kids baseball bats funny and still one of the most successful tv shows . What kind of retard would find that funny? one that is too lazy to think. one who wants easy entertainment. So you think the same morons that like double rainbow and Americas funniest home videos will sit through a 3 to 4 hour long documentary about the de-evolution of man??? lol yeah good luck with that.

what happened is as a race we got smart. As technology advanced the need to compete for basic survival dropped to almost nothing. Morons that usually wouldnt have survived in the wild because of bad decision making were looked after by the community as a whole. its called welfare. we invented drugs that would help save weak and infertile people. again people whose genetic makeup would not otherwise have been carried forth into the greater gene pool.

the reason people from 3rd world countries are harder working and smarter is because there is much more competition for survival there. they might not all be book smart, i'll bet dollars to donuts there 10x more street smart than the average American or any well off individual in a 1st world country.

long story short. we have only one hope to save western society. and that is to destroy it. tear it all down and start again. yeah i know all your doing is changing the actors its still the same game. but at least there is hope we might have some happiness no matter how short lived it is.

reply to post by sbctinfantry


Americans have been desensitized. It is part of the Progressive, Globalist agenda. Think about it... for decades America was the shinning city on the hill, completely immune to most of the problems faced by the rest of the world on a daily basis. America has been brought down several notches, especially since Obama took office, and now we are more prone to all of the events and problems mentioned in the OP, as well as many others that were not mentioned. They are more noticeable now.

I understand the OP's frustration with people who know what is happening but refuse to do anything about it.

There is not going to be any appreciable protest about the loss of our freedoms...no great awakening...no marches on Washington. Nothing, nothing, nothing!

Tomorrow has been canceled for lack of interest

Just another case in point:
Yesterday afternoon, Oklahoma was hit by a series of very deadly, powerful EF4 and EF5 tornadoes.

Did you know that?

No?

Probably because the MSN decided to tell you what color nail polish was the most popular in your state instead.

I kid you not.

The best way to make things worse is to say things can't get any worse...

Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by sbctinfantry

 

. America has been brought down several notches, especially since Obama took office,

OBAMA?? hahaha yeah i forgot what a stellar performance Bush Jr put in.

Gold fish memories lmao.