Three UFOs Flying Around ISS. Ground Control order: 'Endeavour please pause the playback!'

reply to post by David291


I think this re-enforces how deceptive (and, obviously intentionally, when you see the text comments) that UTube video is, the way it's presented:

.....but why ask them to pause it if it's just run of the mill debris?

You see, you were easily duped as well.

The "playback" request..to stop it had nothing, at all, to do with the video.

Either.....it is common procedure, as part of the docking sequence (I don't know, have to ask someone else) or....at the KSC they had a problem on their end, with the download (the "playback") and needed to sort that out, in order to get the data accurately.

Read that link I posted, for more (and factual) information....

And, read the JimOberg links....it is all helpful, for learning.

Originally posted by drakus

Originally posted by Dastardly666

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by JimOberg

 

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You claim the flashing object is turning or rotating debris but you provide no evidence to prove this.

What factor or variable leads YOU to believe it's not debris, space-junk, cosmonaut turdle, or whatever?
The easiest, simpler explanation is that it is debris, WHAT is it there that POINTS to another explanation? The blinking? Well, MANY things seem to "blink", from earth, stars seem to blink, but we can propose a simple, logical explanation for that. Rotation debris in space will appear as blinking objects because there's no atmospheric scattering of light (light isn't "diffused" by gasses) to cast light on the sides of the object not receiving radiaton.
Off course, it COULD always be something else, but there's nothing in that vid implying that...

So are you saying that we should just go with an explanation because it is easy and simple? Even if it is wrong?

The blinking object could be rotating debris but it could be an alien space craft or a secret black project.

This is the biggest problem on ATS. If it looks like something then thats what it is. If that works for you then fine but not for me.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Dastardly666

 

MY POST stands on its own.

People with eyes, and the willingness to seek to deny ignorance and nonsense can figure it out.

Most people get it....the "proof" of the UTube author's deception is self-evident.

Not to mention, that same individual's nasty comments to me...(as, I did take the time to make an informative post comment on the channel).

Firstly, no-one including you deserves nasty comments. But in an earlier post, you basically said anyone who disagreed with you was gullible and ignorant.

I think it would be highly unlikely NASA would allow video footage of an alien space craft or secret black project posted on youtube. But then it could have been posted by an insider. The object could be rotating debris but there is no evidence to suggest it is apart from the fact it looks like it. But a blinking object could be anything.

Originally posted by Dastardly666

Originally posted by drakus

Originally posted by Dastardly666

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by JimOberg

 

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You claim the flashing object is turning or rotating debris but you provide no evidence to prove this.

What factor or variable leads YOU to believe it's not debris, space-junk, cosmonaut turdle, or whatever?
The easiest, simpler explanation is that it is debris, WHAT is it there that POINTS to another explanation? The blinking? Well, MANY things seem to "blink", from earth, stars seem to blink, but we can propose a simple, logical explanation for that. Rotation debris in space will appear as blinking objects because there's no atmospheric scattering of light (light isn't "diffused" by gasses) to cast light on the sides of the object not receiving radiaton.
Off course, it COULD always be something else, but there's nothing in that vid implying that...

So are you saying that we should just go with an explanation because it is easy and simple? Even if it is wrong?

The blinking object could be rotating debris but it could be an alien space craft or a secret black project.

This is the biggest problem on ATS. If it looks like something then thats what it is. If that works for you then fine but not for me.

No, we should go with the explanation that adresses all points (ie: not wrong, rationally) AND it is simpler.

I'll repeat my question: WHAT VARIABLE LEADS YOU TO BELIEVE THIS IS NOT DEBRIS/SPACE JUNK?
The movement?
The blinking?
The size?
WHAT?

I DO NOT deny the possibility of UFO's, probably because I've seen one in plain day zipping around like it was looking for a parking space, really, I'm all for that. But I don't see anything in this video that remotely insinuates the presence of an intelligent object.

IF there were something THAT DID NOT FIT with the space debris explanation then, yes, we should look for another theory, but I don't see nothing of the sort...

Drx

reply to post by JimOberg


thanks jimoberg so thes 'objects' are behind the iss and would appear to be obiting at 90 degree ( aprox) angles to the iss...for a 'normal' stilte, is that possible? just trying to get off the "playback" issue and back to the objects in question...
there's alot of talk about 'playback'...or should i say distraction.... after it has been explained...and thanks to all that cleared that up....it is actually a big help....so now how about getting into the objects in question?

To be honest I cant see why all the fuss over this video and I have seen better to make a conspiracy out off.

The flashing object tumbling away is no doubt space junk or someones spanner the other object traveling from left to right could well be a distant satellite passing by.

I mean everyone has a good idea how much junk is floating around up there in orbit.

Some of you guys are willing to reach in the bottom depths of your asses to pull out and make up some conspiracies.

Oh no... Not another piece of space debris rotating away and reflecting light.... IT MUST BE a HUGE mother alienship MILES AND MILES away in pursuit of our shuttle.... Seriously????

I can't believe someone would waste their time thinking this might be something being covered up, yet still released. LOL

Originally posted by Bob Down Under
I mean everyone has a good idea how much junk is floating around up there in orbit.

Bob, just to keep everyone off balance, i've gotta say I doubt these dots are from that 'space junk' cloud that we've all seen graphics of. here's why"

On the thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...
my initial reply (www.abovetopsecret.com...) posted on 20-5-2011 @ 01:07 PM

common misconception fostered by ambiguous journalistic use of the sexy term 'space junk'.

I've never seen any imagery from any humanned space flight that looked likely to be this kind of 'space junk' -- debris from OTHER satellites. Such objects are too far away, too small, too fast [if close], and generally non-detectable by a crew.

The prosaic explanation most commonly offered - -and documented -- involves stuff, often short-lived stuff like ice, off of the particlar spacecraft from which the observation is being made. On occasion it involves material associated with co-orbiting spacecraft with which rendezvous maneuvers are being conducted.

This introduces fundamental differences with trying to explain blips as 'space junk' from other vehicles. If you don't realize this, any investigative efforts are likely to be doomed to frustration.

The dots in this video look just like the dots in hundreds of other scenes, small stuff off of the shuttle.

Originally posted by Bdizzl3
reply to post by weedwhacker

 

Just curious, what conspiracy theories do you subscribe to or buy into? I always see you debunking but haven't came across things you support.

Why do you give him crap? We are all here to learn the "truth" and well some on here do know what they are talking about. Weedwacker use to drive me NUTS until I got into the aersospace program myself. I understand a lot more of these videos now more than I ever did. I believe in UFOs and aliens more than anyone I know but I also know that some things are explainable no matter how much you want them not to be. Just because he doesnt buy into all conspiracies it doesnt mean he doesnt believe something else is out there. We all want to know the truth yet when someone tells you what you are looking at and you dont agree it's an all out attack on that person...Why? Is it needed? No it's not.

I would be just as happy to see aliens and ufos (of an alien origin) out in space and I do feel they are there but many NASA pics are very explainable. I know many people who work for NASA and it's really hard to see people dis them like they do on here. They are normal people who have to keep certain things private for their own lives and careers. I have been told many things I would never share because I respect these people. Everyone i have ever met who works for NASA all say they hide things about aliens and ufos but it is to be kept secret, they don't like it but it's their job and ass on the line if they talk...so before you people dis NASA think of that..I love NASA and I don';t care what people say about them. Everyone I know who works for them are awesome people!

Originally posted by mblahnikluver
Everyone i have ever met who works for NASA all say they hide things about aliens and ufos but it is to be kept secret, they don't like it but it's their job and ass on the line if they talk...

How convenient for you. No need for evidence, no need for proof, just take your uncheckable word for it.

What is there in your assertions about 'NASA UFO secrets' that an independent investigator could corroborate?

Originally posted by Dastardly666
You called the video deceptive but you have provided no evidence to prove this.

He provided the actual context for the term "pause the playback", (evidence) which the uploader attempted to take out of context by cutting off the video after the request. The uploader attempted to make it appear as if NASA was requesting the video be paused; weedwacker showed how this was not the case and had nothing to do with the video feed.

Originally posted by Dastardly666
You claim the flashing object is turning or rotating debris but you provide no evidence to prove this.

Weedwacker very accurately described how a reflection object in free-fall appears when it tumbles along its axis. Can you tell us why this is not an accurate description of the objects in the video?

Originally posted by Dastardly666
If this is your opinion then fine. But don't try to pass on your opinions as fact like you and some others do all the time, without any proof or evidence.

Weedwacker provided cogent arguments and evidence. You are only telling us he is wrong but not telling us why. If you think he is wrong, provide a cogent argument. Simply stating someone is wrong is not a cogent argument.

Originally posted by Dastardly666
I think it would be highly unlikely NASA would allow video footage of an alien space craft or secret black project posted on youtube.

Agreed; if you believe there is a murderous and omnipresent government cover-up of aliens, then it does not follow that such videos would be allowed on YouTube or even a video feed from shuttle missions.

Originally posted by Dastardly666
But then it could have been posted by an insider.

But then why would it be allowed to stay up?

Originally posted by Dastardly666
The object could be rotating debris but there is no evidence to suggest it is apart from the fact it looks like. But a blinking object could be anything.

It could be anything excepting for the fact that it looks exactly like a reflective, tumbling debris. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. To give equal weight to the idea the object could be "anything" (codeword) is to ignore the extraordinary evidence we have that it isn't "anything".

Originally posted by Breezy2k11
... IT MUST BE a HUGE mother alienship MILES AND MILES away in pursuit of our shuttle.... Seriously????

Common sense and some imagination should be enough to debunk the idea these are alien craft. Why would an advanced species need to be so close to observe anything? We have telescopes able to see the furthest reaches of our own galaxy and beyond, yet we are expected to believe an alien race hundreds or thousands of years ahead of us needs to observe us up close?

reply to post by dplum517


Nah, it's lame that you're consistently lied to by your 'peers' and you keep coming back for more.

You got your priorities all wrong!

Some by-name invitations follow:

Originally posted by Arken
....NASA stopping the live stream after the three unidentified flying objects in the Endeavour's background.
We need for more independent (from government control) space monitoring!

Arken, do you still believe this was a 'live' transmission that was interrupted for some deceptive or coverup purpose?

Originally posted by TheUniverse
....Then a minute later ANOTHER object comes back FROM THE SAME DIRECTION that the first object exited the Camera View From. No wonder they wanted the playback paused. ...

TheUniverse, do you still believe this was a 'live' transmission that was interrupted for some deceptive or coverup purpose?

Originally posted by Themanwithnoname
Bloody hell, that's very interesting. ... the request to pause the playback shortly after they appear is quite suspicious. Hmmm....

Themanwithnoname, do you still believe this was a 'live' transmission that was interrupted for some deceptive or coverup purpose?

Originally posted by TrueInstinct
There's no other reason to pause the stream unless they're trying to hide something.

TrueInstinct, do you still believe this was a 'live' transmission that was interrupted for some deceptive or coverup purpose?

Originally posted by dplum517
Once again NASA disgusts me. Please Pause the Playback???? .....whats gives them that right....... why can't they just lets us see the unexplainable events that happen in space??? My tax money pays for this .... it also pays for black ops and there secret space program.... but will we ever get to see the light of day concerning that.... prob not... All I can say is...lame. Lame that we are constantly lied to by our governments and deceived by what ever "Aliens" are out there.

dplum517, do you still believe this was a 'live' transmission that was interrupted for some deceptive or coverup purpose?

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
'Endeavour please pause the playback!', Smoking Gun for me.

ALOSTSOUL, do you still believe this was a 'live' transmission that was interrupted for some deceptive or coverup purpose?

Originally posted by coolottie
Telling them to switch cameras, and stop playback, etc is a dead giveaway something was there, because they do it all the time. Wasn't Ice and Not debrie, bet on it.

coolottie, do you still believe this was a 'live' transmission that was interrupted for some deceptive or coverup purpose?

Originally posted by Bdizzl3
But then why would Endeavor have to pause the playback for Nasa or Houston or whoever was speaking to review it? It sounds like they were talking to the crew in space and said to pause the feed for what I assume the reason to be stopping any one who is watching that feed live on the internet will stop seeing what is on screen?

Bdizzl3, do you still believe this was a 'live' transmission that was interrupted for some deceptive or coverup purpose?

Originally posted by MasterOfSparkz
Excellent post. The truth is always good and helpful. Star!

MasterOfSparkz, do you still believe this was a 'live' transmission that was interrupted for some deceptive or coverup purpose?


I hope y'all can check out the links here:
My post of 23-5-2011 @ 05:17 PM
www.abovetopsecret.com...
...and verify that the playback was twenty hours after the docking, which was televised live and uninterrupted from a camera on the International Space Station. The playback the following morning was competing for downlink bandwidth by views of the real-time unberthing and installation of the dark matter telescope, but the whole sequence got downlinked eventually.

Once we establish this lack of mystery over an interrupted downlink, we can discuss what such moving dots might be..

Originally posted by Bdizzl3
Just curious, what conspiracy theories do you subscribe to or buy into? I always see you debunking but haven't came across things you support.

I was not aware there was some bare minimum of conspiracy-theories one needs to support. How many does one need to subscribe to before they can debunk others?

Disclosure is a scam and it will never happen on Youtube. Just like it will never happen on here.

It is TPTB. Keep dreaming and youtube fishing. You will find it.

just a question what was the official description oh sorry lie about the ufo or was it identified ? or is this more confirmation of
" we are not alone, we have never been alone, and now more are coming?"

Arken - I think the idea of non-governmental observations is a fantastic one.

There are groups about for people to collaborate on projects. Maybe you'd like to found one?

I don't have the skills for it, and am unlikely to pick them up in the next couple of years. Maybe I'll make it a new hobby when the youngest is a bit older.

Anywayz - you can find examples of these sorts of collaborative groups called Hackerspace.

I'd love to see some people getting together to figure out ways that aren't a billion dollars to launch a camera and put it in orbit with a feed.

Originally posted by WingedBull

Originally posted by Bdizzl3
Just curious, what conspiracy theories do you subscribe to or buy into? I always see you debunking but haven't came across things you support.

I was not aware there was some bare minimum of conspiracy-theories one needs to support. How many does one need to subscribe to before they can debunk others?

And is there, like, some kind of weighting system? Like, does one shape-shifting reptilians belief equal twelve Roswells or something?