Joplin Missouri Hammered Hard by tornadoes!

I am going to go try and rest for a while. Tomorrow is going to be a very intense day and night for us as storms with the potential of being even stronger will come down on us ready or not. Could this be the reason so many Guard troops are being put on ready notification?

This really does show us that it IS the local law enforcement, Firefighters, EMTs, Drs, Nurses, and individuals that are willing to risk their lives in disaster. You cant expect it to come from the GOV level in a timely manner.

Has this been declared a disaster? I have not heard it but most certainly has been declared right?

reply to post by antar


Not sure.. I have not seen anything on the local news about an officer being struck. Its entirely possible its a conflicting report (1 instead of 3, or 2 instead of 1). Its also possible it was Natl. Guard or another support agency in the area. If thats the case it might take some time to verify through the appropriate agency if an officer / responder was injured.

Do people now accept that climate change is causing these harsh events or do they attribute it to something else?

I just heard on the Weather channel that over 400 people are still missing. I am not sure how much to trust their numbers as right now it surely would be impossible to really have a figure. Maybe it's 400 that is actually reported missing. What about people that didn't have much family looking for them. I dunno. I hope it's not that many though.

reply to post by j2000


its only been 30 hours since the tornado. finding 7 people alive today was a big shot in the arm to raise the hopes of the rescuers that they will find more alive tonight and tomorrow. considering they spent most of the morning taking shelter from another super cell thunderstorm. and several rounds of storms throughout the day,

the lists will probably be released in a day or 2. along with a list of the confirmed dead. just be patient no one is losing hope here in Joplin

reply to post by Stratus9


I REALLY am not playing on this terrible disaster, nor trying to create more fear for others, I did hold back even sharing that as long as I could, but it had to be said and to get it off the chest.

I hope I am just wrong, that perhaps it is emotional trauma from all the information overload, or lack of true statistics which creates a whole other stress as it is most certain the numbers have been fictitious.

Originally posted by Jax27
Do people now accept that climate change is causing these harsh events or do they attribute it to something else?

Ive already seen comments blaming HAARP.....

go figure...

Originally posted by truthseekerlady77
I just heard on the Weather channel that over 400 people are still missing. I am not sure how much to trust their numbers as right now it surely would be impossible to really have a figure. Maybe it's 400 that is actually reported missing. What about people that didn't have much family looking for them. I dunno. I hope it's not that many though.

Originally posted by antar
reply to post by Stratus9

 

I REALLY am not playing on this terrible disaster, nor trying to create more fear for others, I did hold back even sharing that as long as I could, but it had to be said and to get it off the chest.

I hope I am just wrong, that perhaps it is emotional trauma from all the information overload, or lack of true statistics which creates a whole other stress as it is most certain the numbers have been fictitious.

The offical population of Joplin is around 55k. The City itself is not the only damaged area, as both Newton and Jasper Counties (Joplin falls into both counties) also suffered severe damage. The news is showing Joplin since its a population epicenter.

There were business open on Sundays down here. To give a mental image, during a normal business day the Joplin area has approximately 250k people +/- in the area for work and what have you from surrounding counties / states.

Trying to obtain offical numbers of missing is extremely difficult. You have people who lost phone / power, others who werent in their homes at the time, people on vacation, people at familes / friends houses, people in hotels etc etc etc.

The only firm number is going to be body count unfortunately..

Originally posted by truthseekerlady77
I just heard on the Weather channel that over 400 people are still missing. I am not sure how much to trust their numbers as right now it surely would be impossible to really have a figure. Maybe it's 400 that is actually reported missing. What about people that didn't have much family looking for them. I dunno. I hope it's not that many though.

Thank You.

It sounds bad, but I was thinking a lot higher to be honest.

reply to post by Xcathdra


KOAMTV confirmed at the end of the 10 pm news that 1 officer was struck by lightening this after noon and was in critical condition. they even released his name but i missed it.

@antar

3pm local time there was a press conference in joplin. the govenor said he declared a disaster area lastnight right after the tornado hit. Obama declared Joplin a federal natural disaster area early this morning according to the Govenor and congressman Billy Long.

the assistant director for FEMA is already in town.

the extra national guard that is on ready stand by is for when the search and rescue ops are completed. they will be used to help start the cleanup effort if needed.

reply to post by Mercenary2012


Yeah, my bad man, an officer was injured 32nd and Main, which is part of their command Center setup for other agencies. I missed that release.. sorry.

KOAMTV-Joplin

Also number of rescued is up to 17 people now. Death toll still at 116. They also have some additional updates on their website.
KY3 News - Springfield MO (70 miles East of Joplin)

I had some people asking about the map again, so I am going to just quote my post that had it to bump it on the thread.

Sorry mods for the T&C violation.


Here is a rough idea for those not in this area. The Hospital is in the lower left, near 32nd. In the middle of the Map is Joplin High school, and on your far right (US 71/Rangeline) is where the Walmart and Home Depot were.

The area inside the lines has heavy damage. Areas outside are also damaged, but structures are still standing. This is NOT AN OFFICAL MAP or description of damage, as there are houses inside the red that are intact.

This is to ONLY SERVE as a visual guide to see the extent of damage sustained. Total distance is about 5-7 miles from left to right give or take.

Freman Hospital is just across the street from St. Johns Regional (lower left).

Large map, scroll left to right to see entire picture. Last I heard its like a 30 block radius.

NOT OFFICAL - VISUAL GUIDE ONLY

reply to post by Xcathdra


Great information. I sadly have to admit I believe the number will be much higher.

As a side note , I can not handle seeing suffering (as I am sure most people can't). But what makes this all worse is tomorrow more tornado weather looms. I will go crazy if I see the already suffering be hit again by more suffering. I hate seeing people being kicked when they are already down. I can't even stand the thought of it.

I am praying Joplin and surrounding areas are protected tomorrow I also hope we up here in KC and surround areas are safe too.. Heck what am I saying...I hope that no one gets hit tomorrow.

Originally posted by Jax27
Do people now accept that climate change is causing these harsh events or do they attribute it to something else?

When all the ingredients are right strong storms develop and spawn Tornadic activity, this has been going on for as long as the air streams began. we have no clue as to what storms developed before modern documented communication. there could have been a time where f5s were the norm, but as far as a man made global warming scenario's causing these outbreaks? i highly doubt the connection, I do however see bizarre astronomical anomalies occurring that are more than likely the culprit..IE: The Sun, natural earth cycles, volcanism and their various effects.

the bottom line is to just be aware and prepare yourself for the worst in all things. an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure

reply to post by anumohi


The other thought to add to your response is even after we started recording tornado damage, we need to keep in mind that damage increases as the size of the cities increease. Back in the day Joplin could have been tagged with EF-5 tornados, but didnt have the population concentration for it to be devestating.

reply to post by Jax27


many of these "harsh events" go unreported because they happen over sparsely populated farmland.
most tornado's aren't reported in the news unless they go through a populated area.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by anumohi

 

The other thought to add to your response is even after we started recording tornado damage, we need to keep in mind that damage increases as the size of the cities increease. Back in the day Joplin could have been tagged with EF-5 tornados, but didnt have the population concentration for it to be devestating.

That's very true, because most of the cites back in the day were small and were mostly prairie lands, as soon as the populous started spreading out they were moving in direct conflict with mother natures path routes

That entire corner of the tri state is a notorious corridor where the storms always pass through, and Nevada

reply to post by Cloudsinthesky

Oh Mike! I just got back to the thread, and read this. So very sorry for all the tragedy you are inundated with. Such heart breaking news. I'm sure you
And Lisa are shell shocked, by what you are witnessing.

Please know while we cannot be there with you to physically lend a hand, you are very near in our hearts and prayers.

We will be here for you in the days to come. Thank you for already helping so many. Take care of yourself,

Love,
Ali

reply to post by sjewell57


Thank you for your service, we listened diligently to the scanner last night and stayed long after the first crew was sent home to rest. We were there with you guys and felt your experience through the voice influctuations.

reply to post by Cloudsinthesky


Just so sorry you are in such painful reality. Thank God you still have each other at the end of the day. Stay safe, stay hydrated and use meditation and relaxation to recharge yourself.