Babylon NY

There is a small Village in NY called Babylon Village.

Imaging coming through the Atlantic Ocean and seeing their water tower... "WELCOME TO BABYLON".

Apparently it is the first thing that you see when you come to America via NY waterways.

At least they aren't lying to you...

Babylon Village

EDIT: Here's another link Town of Babylon

[edit on 3-8-2004 by MacKiller]

Originally posted by MacKiller
There is a small Village in NY called Babylon Village.

Imaging coming through the Atlantic Ocean and seeing their water tower... "WELCOME TO BABYLON".

Apparently it is the first thing that you see when you come to America via NY waterways.

There's also a town on LI called 'Hicksville'


I'd be surprised if Babylon's water tower was the first thing a person saw coming in from the Atlantic tho.

Re 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Re 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Re 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

Re 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

In his vision, John sees a mighty angel throw a stone, one like a great millstone, into the sea. This picture is designed to portray the downfall of the great city and its system as:

(1) Sudden. It will be sudden as when a stone falls into the sea, suddenly, with a splash.

(2) Violent, Catastrophic. Such a great stone (like a meteor) would cause tidal waves which move across land destroying everything in their path. The destruction of Babylon leads to the destruction of the rest of its system.

(3) Complete, Total. Like a stone which is cast into the sea and sinks out of sight, so the destruction of Babylon will be so complete that it will be found no more, never to rise again (Jer. 51:61-64). This is the primary emphasis. Babylon will be found no more, not in any form. This is stressed seven times in chapter 18. Remember that seven is used over and over to stress the concept of completeness. Note this emphasis in the following verses: verse 14 (once), verse 21 (once), verse 22 (three times), and verse 23 (twice). Further, in each case the negative �no� or �not� in the Greek text is the very emphatic ou mh, a double negative that means �by no means.�

When I read these things about Babylon, and the fall of it, it reminds me of 9/11, or possibly future terrorist attacks.

Here is another interesting link: Is American Babylon (sorry for the mile long page, and all the religion junk)

`MacKiller

This is really an interesting find, MacKiller. If I am not mistaken Nostradamus also predicted a similar destruction of "New York"

Originally posted by Mynaeris
This is really an interesting find, MacKiller. If I am not mistaken Nostradamus also predicted a similar destruction of "New York"

well i think this belongs in BTS but ill reply, myn the nostradamus prophecy was a hoax, someone changed one of his prophecies and added it to another to make it.

My favorite is Bagdad Arizona.

Spiderj

well i think this belongs in BTS but ill reply, myn the nostradamus prophecy was a hoax, someone changed one of his prophecies and added it to another to make it.

What proof do you have of that?

And I see no reason why this belongs in BTS, but that is off topic, please try and keep it on topic.

Originally posted by MacKiller

well i think this belongs in BTS but ill reply, myn the nostradamus prophecy was a hoax, someone changed one of his prophecies and added it to another to make it.

What proof do you have of that?

And I see no reason why this belongs in BTS, but that is off topic, please try and keep it on topic.

i still posted something on topic so it doesnt matter. and its common knowledge if you must have a link ill get you one.

now i believe a little whippersnapper asked for proof well here it is.

people.howstuffworks.com...

[edit on 8/3/2004 by machinegunjordan]

I think this thread definitely belongs on ATS and NOT on BTS. As for the Nostradamus quotes - no I am not referring to the obvious hoax of 9/11 predictions. Here are the exact quotes interpret them as you please.


C1Q24
At the new city contemplating a condemnation,
the bird of prey comes to offer itself to the heavens:
after victory pardon to captives,
Cremona and Mantua will have suffered great evils.


C1Q87
Volcanic fire from the center of the earth
will cause trembling around the new city:
Two great rocks will make war for a long time.
Then Arethusa will redden a new river.


C6Q97
At forty-five degrees the sky will burn,
Fire to approach the great new city:
In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up,
When one will want to demand proof of the Normans.


C9Q92
The King will want to enter the new city,
Through its enemies they will come to subdue it:
Captive free falsely to speak and act,
King to be outside, he will keep far from the enemy.


C10Q49
Garden of the world near the new city,
In the path of the hollow mountains:
It will be seized and plunged into the Tub,
Forced to drink waters poisoned by sulfur.

Originally posted by Mynaeris
C1Q24
C1Q87
C6Q97
C9Q92
C10Q49

But these are three different centuries and four different quatrains. IOW these items are not associated with each other in the text.

I've been to Babylon. It ain't even worth talking about.

How about Rome, Georgia? I hear the Barbarians aren't interested in taking it over though.

Does anyone have any other thought, or link that lead to where Babylon really was?

I seem to be quite interested in this topic, hopefully we can start something interesting...

Originally posted by MacKiller
Does anyone have any other thought, or link that lead to where Babylon really was?

What do you mean, 'where it was'? The historical Babylon was a city in whats now iraq. The reason there is so much anti-babylonian propaganda in the bible is because the jews had been deported to this region in ancient times. They loathed it so much apparently because

1. well, they were forcibly deported
   
2. They weren't treated very nicely while there
   
3. They were primarily country people, not city folk
   

This time is refered to as the 'Babylonian Captivity' (as an aside, this term is also used to refer to a time when the papacy wasn't situated in rome, but in france). It is also the time when the great jewish holy book/writtings called 'the talmud' was composed.

Eventually many of the jews returned. However, large numbers stayed. So today, there is a healthy population of iraqi jews over there.

There is even a song about the event. I don't know if its a translation of a jewish song or what, but its called 'By The Rivers of Babylon'. The group Sublime does a nice version of it. The earlier version I have heard appears to be a church song.

it goes something like

" By the rivers of babylon/where we sat down/and where we went/to remember zion/for the wicked carried me away in captivity/requiring of us a song/but how shall we sing the lords song in a strange land"

or something roughly like that.

well, you did say you were interested, so thats what ya get! Songs damnit! Hey, at least I didn't have to actually sing it.

You may also have noticed that Babylon and Zion figure prominently in jamaican music. This is, I think, because the authors consider themselves to be like an analog of the jews at the time, taken from their homeland, living in servitude in a foreign land; but one day 'we'll be freed' and what not.

maybe it is, babylon=ny, or maybe not could it be refering to the whole of america? time will tell? america is considered a ``christian nation`` is it? or is it not,don't be fooled by this.

peace

Originally posted by NygdanEventually many of the jews returned. However, large numbers stayed. So today, there is a healthy population of iraqi jews over there.

When Saddam rose to power he hung jews in the streets. I don't think the jewish population is anywhere near where it was prior to his rise to power.

Originally posted by Crakeur

Originally posted by NygdanEventually many of the jews returned. However, large numbers stayed. So today, there is a healthy population of iraqi jews over there.

When Saddam rose to power he hung jews in the streets. I don't think the jewish population is anywhere near where it was prior to his rise to power.

I'm sure there are less of them post saddam than pre saddam yes. But they haven't been exterminated. I bet there are more iraqi jews in iraq than there are samaritans in the levant at least.

There is a night club in Babylon, the "Flanagan's" or something like that. I visit there once in a while. Can't imagine that either divine or terrestrial forces bothered about this place hahahahahaha

Here's a link to an interesting webpage related to this topic.

aoreport.com...

KJV Revelation 17:3-4
17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Statue of Liberty = Ishtar (Queen of heaven, Babylonian goddess of love, war, and fertility), Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth.

www.nps.gov...
On October 28th, 1886, President Grover Cleveland accepted the Statue on behalf of the United States and said in part: "We will not forget that Liberty has here made her home; nor shall her chosen altar be neglected."
- From www.nps.gov...

www.hope-of-israel.org...
www.geocities.com...
yahushua.net...

Statue of Freedom (Atop the Whitehouse). Another idol to Ishtar.
www.aoc.gov...


The writer of this monthly newsletter is also convinced of the connection between modern day America and mystery Babylon.

www.lasttrumpetministries.org...

More info:
yahushua.net...