Massive Protests in Spain - Live Stream

Originally posted by HoldTheBeans
Same thing could be happening here next year if things keep going the way they are.

I agree with that opinion, which I'm sure will be fact in less than a few years. Cutbacks seems to be the buzzword in any political talk these days. Westerners will be the last to to finally question the status quo to the point of actually not agreeing with it.

Good luck to the people of Spain, and any other nation that is getting to see first hand the war between have nots and elites.

These people are obviously fed up with the bull#, whether their goal is to protest about 'municipal elections' or 'revolution', we can sit here and try to figure out the 'true' reasons to why they are protesting (even though if we truly think about it we can understand that 6 million people surely wont all have the same opinions and views) or we can simply admit to the fact that it all comes down to the same thing, CHANGE!. They want it and need it one way or the other; and they are going out of their way to get it. they realized that the change they want (WHATEVER it might be) cannot be given to them by their current system, so they are doing this instead. we should learn from it, and applaud to them for their efforts, i hope these people get the change they want and deserve.

Originally posted by Watts
What's goin on in the world??

any information about the protest?

reply to post by dl2one


One thing about all these happenings my countrymen and women England and Canada. Being of the most comfortable societies. Dosn't that put us with the most to lose at the end of it all. This tyranny as it is progresses toward our comfortable anniliation everday. if you handicapp the ruling elites past performances and consider the evidence of their williungness to repeat history because of their tried and true methodologies.
Is it not obvious that many of us will see the final curtain close at the same time ? All according to grand scheme
that they themselves have warned us about. It seems we may go quietly into the night.
Never fear, it seems the rest of the world has the cahounnies to avenge us at least. That's my best rederick on the matter.

"For nothing in politics ever happens by accident. If it does happen ? You can believe, it was planned". FDR

I heard about this earlier today but thought there would probably be a few threads on it by the time i checked into the site.... there wasnt but i couldn't be bothered

Looks like we are all having the same problems.... you know what? The whole system will go down if more Countries continue....

On another note it looks like they are speedily trying to get rid of cash and credit/debit cards altogether and putting tech in place to recieve payments from our mobile phones...

I will not sit here and deny the fact that governments are mismanaging tax dollars and misrepresenting populations around the globe. When I look at glimpses of all the recent protests from Egypt to now Spain, I see one underlying similarity.

The age of the people protesting. There appears to be an exhorbant amount of college aged people attending these rallies from Egypt to Lybia, to Syria to Spain etc. I have expressed my concerns in other related threads.

Its obvious these movements spring up out of a more obscure, better funded agenda IMO. Then it just becomes the "cool" thing to do if you ask me.

There is no doubt that corrupt governments are bringing the rest of this world to its knees, but do these young people really have a clue? Have they ever considered what its like to work fifty to sixty hours a week doing hard manual labor? It is all rainbows and butterflies to them! What did they do to pay for their tuitions to get a higher education? The majority of the faces I see in the images of these rallies answers that question for me.

Sensationalising this just to be part of the cool trend is disgusting!

I am also missing the point here I think. If these rallys are based on unemployment rates, why on earth do you blame a government for that? We all hear it almost everyday that jobs are up or down x amount compaired to previous administrations, but why?

Why are you relying on the same corrupt government to make a job for you? It shouldn't be their department.
I know things all tie together and revolve around world banking and governments, but still. Your demanding they control your livelihood. That in itself is perplexing to me and I have to question the underlying agendas of the organizers of these protests.

Everyone has different reasons for why they do things. Don't try to paint them all with one brush, you are missing out on the true complexity of the development.

The government and corporations have done so much bs and screwed so many people over, that nearly everyone is upset about something or another.

That's how critical mass is formed, because the problematic issues occurring are widespread and inundating the entire nation.

People want jobs, I understand. We want honorable work that contributes to the progression of humanity. Problem is most jobs don't really aid humanity much at all, and end up polluting or defrauding us instead.

So we should just build space ships or something. That's the future right? And that's a lot of jobs globally.

So, from what I can gather, they are protesting because they realize that a two-party democracy is not really a democracy. Is this why we have a media blackout? Does this hit a little too close to home for our government?

reply to post by kcoyote


No media blackout...Fox had stories on the protest a coupple of days ago and yesterday. For the most part the protest are peaceful even though the Spanosh Goverment has banned or tried to ban the gatherings. the Spainish people are upset over the unemployment and the Country has elections scheduled shortly. My guess is with all the other stories that are ongoing at the moment like Obama's Isreal statement and the floods in the south thhe story has not recieved as much attention as maybe it should have but the protests has been non-violent and if it doesn't bleed then it don't lead at least on Americas news. The size of the protest are amazing literally tens of thousands but maybe not so unusal before an election as the different parties try to drum up support.

www.foxnews.com...

It is a beautiful thing. Too bad it'd never happen in the U.S. since the media is complicit with the corporate corruption and actively works to make anyone protesting about the status quo look like radicals and potential domestic terrorists. It is that and the strange fact that modern Americans will suffer any tyranny with nary a peep. We are a passive and apathetic lot, and pretty much an embarrasment to the Founders' legacy.

As I was about to post it came on the 10pm news in the UK, so no longer a blackout.

What has been most interesting is the reaction of close family & friends that think I talk about TPTB, MSM and conspiracies too much. They have been amazed it's not been on our news until just now. They saw this stream and can't believe it.

Thanks to the OP & the Spanish ATS members for the insight.

For those asking why they are protesting the government over unemployment I have a question. Who should they be protesting?

Yes I understand government does not create jobs, but they sure as heck can do a great job of making it so they don't get created. That is exactly what has happened in Spain, and most of the industrialized world by letting the banks, and over taxation destroy their economies.

Sure it is delusional to think they are going to get a job by throwing out their government, obviously it will take years for even excellent policies to turn things around, but that really isn't the point. If you get people mad enough they will lash out just to feel like they are doing something that might make things better even if it is years away.

What I'm not sure most people realize is if they are successful in overthrowing their government it has a high probability of being the first domino that brings down the entire European and eventually the most of the world economy. At this point that is probably inevitable, it is just going to take the right spark to set it all in motion.

There is a reason why this is happening in Spain first, before other European nations. It is the same reason why Obama sent his one wife to Spain several months back.

They want Spain back.

The media blackout just shows how much they can censor from all of us as if this isnt relevent and we shouldnt know,this will just be like the greek protests and it will sizzle out in a few days and all the scum that infest their goverment will still be in power,nobody has any balls to do jack # anymore

still i take my hat of too the people who had the guts to at least try

I was looking at the picture just about 24 hours ago, and thinking, that this will be getting at least a bit more atttention... Now 24 hours later, I tune in to ustream.tv and see the same big mass of people, but still basically nothing on finnish media..

This is surprisingsly little from finnish media for these circumstances. I have to join the club where people are wondering about the amount of the air time that this should be getting, and what it is actually getting

Its not reported on our mainstream news because Obama doesn't have anything to do with it. Unless he decides to send in some troops to Spain or call for a no fly zone.

reply to post by SkipperJohn


Unless it's a Muslim country, US won't show them revolting. Once again, how convenient...

reply to post by kcoyote


Anyone knows what group, or groups put this together?

This sounds EXACTLY like the "socialist/social democratic" parties and movements that came about in times before, and from which the wellfare state came about, and how centralized governments were formed and together with the banksters took control of the world...

I am thinking soon enough a "messiah" type will appear claiming he has all the answers, and these people will belive him, or his group only to find themselves deeper into the hole.

This is unfortunately nothing new.

How do any of you know that this was not allowed, and even paid for by the very same people we all want out of their sits of power?...

Remember that the rich elites want a One World Government, and they need a good excuse and the willingness of people to accept it.

They will promise everything under the Sun just so the people will accept the rich elites' One World Government.

reply to post by kcoyote


The Hispanic news media has been reporting this since day one down here in sunny South Florida.

I guess since it is happening in a country of Spanish speaking people that might be the reason why it is not shown on other news media, at least it could be the reason why it hasn't been shown yet by English speaking news media..

Even wikepedia cannot hide this fact.

State-directed economySee also: State-directed economy
A state-directed economy is a system where either the state or worker cooperatives own the means of production, but economic activity is directed to some degree by a government agency or planning ministry through coordinating mechanisms such as indicative planning and dirigisme. This differs from a centralised planned economy (or a command economy) in that micro-economic decision making, such as quantity to be produced and output requirements, are left to managers and workers in the state and cooperative enterprises rather than being mandated by a comprehensive economic plan from a centralised planning board. However, the state will plan long-term strategic investment and seek to coordinate at least some aspects of production. It is possible for a state-directed economy to have elements of both a market and planned economy. For example, investment decisions may be semi-planned by the state, but decisions regarding production may be determined by the market mechanism.

State-directed socialism can also refer to technocratic socialism; economic systems that rely on technocratic management over the means of production and economic policy.

In western Europe, particularly in the period after World War II, many socialist and social democratic parties in government implemented what became known as mixed economies, some of which included a degree of state-directed economic activity. In the biography of the 1945 UK Labour Party Prime Minister Clement Attlee, Francis Beckett states: "the government... wanted what would become known as a mixed economy".[32] Beckett also states that "Everyone called the 1945 government 'socialist'." These governments nationalised major and economically vital industries while permitting a free market to continue in the rest. These were most often monopolistic or infrastructural industries like mail, railways, power and other utilities. In some instances a number of small, competing and often relatively poorly financed companies in the same sector were nationalised to form one government monopoly for the purpose of competent management, of economic rescue (in the UK, British Leyland, Rolls-Royce), or of competing on the world market.
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