Reopening the case file: NASA UFOs

reply to post by hangedman13

The more and more things that are reported in space the more we will hear it. Space junk seems to be quickly becoming the new "weather balloon"

reply to post by SLAYER69

You may have not asked but I've answered the question more than once.

I have no doubt that life exists elsewhere. I suspect that intelligent life exists elsewhere. A possibility of ET visitation? Could they visit us? A very, very remote possibility. A slightly less remote possibility of robotic visitation.

But I don't think we are being subjected to visits of either sort.

reply to post by Phage


I haven't heard you state your opinion on the subject before. Thanks.

What about "Military Black projects"?
UFO doesn't necessarily mean "Alien" just unidentified, could some of these be our own home grown technology that the public is not aware of?

reply to post by SLAYER69

Just to be "open minded", yes there's a chance. But I don't see anything in any of those videos or images which really suggests such.

I see various objects being filmed under circumstances which are unfamiliar to most people (extreme light conditions, freefall, relative motion, etc.). Under these circumstances it is easy to misjudge size, distance, and true motion.

I also see (what are to me obvious) image flaws and artifacts.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

I just hope, lest it be missed, and not thoroughly understood....

....these are still images, not videos yes? (If there are any videos of this object, will be more easy to explain what I describe).

Which is interesting and I'm grateful you took to the time to post it. As you stated there is no video just those of the stills. I'm sure your information is spot on. Thanks for contributing it.

The Oldest Galaxywas formed only 600000000 years after the big bang...Thats (depending on whos calendar you use) 12.4 billion or 15.8 billion years old.Nasa kep moving the date back every year.....now take every galaxy and cluster that has formed since..Also some Star Clusters burn very slowly and the chances for life out match anything within a galaxy. So life elsewhere in the universe ....it's a no brainer.

reply to post by Phage


So let me gets this straight...

You believe in the possibility of alien life. But doubt that they could be clandestinely visiting Earth on some sort of scientific expedition say a study of a primitive race "Humans". Not even if they are a thousand or tens of thousands or perhaps even millions of years ahead of us in science and technology? That they couldn't possibly have figured out how to traverse the great distances between star systems?

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reply to post by SLAYER69

But it's not just a matter of traversing vast distances. Those vast distances extend in all directions (space is big, really, really big). Earth is less than a speck in that vastness. If life is common in our galaxy then what makes us worth the effort? If life is rare then that reduces the chances that we have neighbors close enough to have discovered our little piece of paradise.

But for fun let's say they are visiting clandestinely. If they are so advanced and trying to stay hidden, why do they seem to get busted as much as they do?

And I did say there is a very, very remote possibility that they could. But there is no evidence that they are.

reply to post by Phage


I appreciate your honesty. After all these years I never knew how you felt on the possibility. But you do admit that it's a possibility [Even extremely remote] that that may be.

reply to post by SLAYER69


do remember all of this is pure speculation on both sides of the stories, do we have any idea what they can do? No we do not. So like you stated, they could be millions of years ahead of us both spiritually and technologically, so in my humble opinion, they would have a really great chance of visiting us.

but yes, phage is giving his opinion, just an opinion because what he has stated about them, noone knows. Unless ofc they are here and the goverment are interacting with them, then someone knows.

reply to post by Phage


No evidence that they are? So all these people that believe in this with a passion are nothing but liars? Or have some form of mental problem? Seeing things they wish were there? Am I jumping the gun?

People have put their entire lives into this subject and they are liars?

Just a thought... ofcourse we know some people are hoaxing but there are also some that go unexplained or are given a dumb excuse.

Originally posted by Phage
If life is common in our galaxy then what makes us worth the effort?

Maybe they just want to help, maybe they got helped too at some point in their history and it's just their turn to do the same thing?

Originally posted by Phage
But for fun let's say they are visiting clandestinely. If they are so advanced and trying to stay hidden, why do they seem to get busted as much as they do?

They could be doing it deliberately to give us hope. Not revealing too much, but just enough to make us realise that others can be out there.

I don't actually believe that's the case, just saying. I've become a lot more skeptical about the whole thing lately.

reply to post by David291

No.

Believers are not liars (not all of them). They don't all have mental problems (though some undoubtedly do). But believers do tend to, when seeing something outside of their personal experience, attribute it's cause to the subject of their belief.

A religious believer sees a sign from God. A believer in ET visitors sees a spaceship. Both deny the possibility that they are mistaken, that their eyes can deceive them. Both "fill in the blanks" of their observation with details that weren't there. It's called observational bias.

reply to post by Phage


Touch my friend, touche however, does this count for 'abductees' aswell? What of the officers from within the airfroce/army/whatever that have come forward with information regarding aliens/ufos.

anyway, im off to bed so good night and I'll catch up with you folk later on.

reply to post by David291

It can especially account for "abductee" accounts. The phenomenon of sleep paralysis fits the bill perfectly.
www.castleofspirits.com...
A believer attributes the experience to aliens (or demons).

I have not seen any credible military reports of first hand encounters with aliens. As for UFO reports, members of the military are as capable of misinterpreting a visual sighting as anyone. You will find that usually the interpretation of a UFO as ET in nature does not come from the person reporting it but from the UFO "investigator" who interprets the report for us.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by RUSSO

 

would never, ever be available for public scrutiny??

Wow, Never, never? You seems pretty sure about this. How you get this information? They NEVER will make a mistake about anything? The gov is so confident in their plots, because they never... like the faked Obama BC? Like the secret CIA prisons? Like the gunpowder plot? Like the tuskegee experiment? Like the project MKULTRA? Want more?

I'm sure these conspiracies above were top secret. Just NOT theory anymore.

People are funny, when they want to "believe" so strongly, they will grasp at any straws they can, in your case, Nasa.

This one was pretty cool as well...

Originally posted by jude11
I remember these pics and yes they are very intriguing indeed.

And a few days ago this site was posted:

www.sevilla111.com...

I'm posting a reference point of the tower so you know where to zoom in.

It was like a bell went off for some reason. Very similar to your first pic. I'm not assuming anything here, just thought it was interesting enough to bring it in.

It's a bird, It's a plane, It's a ?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6b7ea5ee6503.png[/atsimg]

Zoomed in:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f3ac77852917.png[/atsimg]

Yes, I remember that supergigapixel pic from yesterday. And to be blunt with you I don't know what it is, but it's not a bird. Because I went to the area you have cut and pasted onto the forum and it's there, but I drew back and I was able to still see the dark object. Now if it was a bird, that bird would have to be the size of a 6 foot man with a wingspan to boot. But if you think that is something (it's almost like trying to find waldo on this pic, it's fun using and seeing this website), go back to the site and soom in to the building that looks like a very large cylinder with windows and a large circle in the middle. You will see that in the circle it's two to three long balconies with glass doors, and at the top one a woman in a white dress with black splotches has the door open and is out on the balcony smoking a cigarette. They need to do moor of these gigapixel photos.