Why Strauss-Kahn, Head of the IMF, had to be eliminated. He had even predicted he would be 'set-up

Thanks to the OP for initiating this discussion. I have been reading ATS for a while now and have finally registered so I could weigh in on this issue. As pointed out in the thread, I believe it is not a simple matter of TPTB vs everyone else. DSK is clearly a member of the elite. The question for me relates to his personal agenda and whether it had turned against the agenda of his own faction within the elite.

If it is a US vs Europe thing and the US wanted to spoil the plans of Europe, I suppose this makes sense, but it is just as likely that he was rocking the boat in Europe and, as he refused to play ball, was "demoted" from within.

As to the mechanics of the alleged incident, it may not have been as cut and dried as "did he or didn't he". He may have been presented with an opportunity that played to his ego and known weakness for women and when he took the opportunity, the tables were turned.

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If this is true, we sadly just lost a key player who was working against the interests of the cabal and in the interests of the world population.

Nah probably just a little internal struggle among the lower rungs of the elites different factions and all that, all playing the defame him game, and probably over business deals and contracts, the whole game of I'm the good guy he is the bad guy and against the peoples interest so lets get him, they put on with the populace. Pretty much they will all say what you want to hear, that is basically there job! To tell you what you want to hear.

Basically people forget unless the real top of the pyramid the ptb is not a coherent group there are always groups and factions just waiting and willing to get over on the other, and so it will be. And no matter who comes out on top, the system is set up that it will be basically the same type of person as the last one because it is very useful for the real top of the pyramid to keep those bellow on the predicable end. So say hello to the new boss, same as the old boss.

And yes he knew he was going to get caught with either women, money, or power or whatever he said in his quote of what he was getting to get caught with. But like I said its all very predictable and its set up like that for a reason, even if they know they still cant help themselves because thats what they are there basic nature.

And for the whole he didn't need to rape a hotel maid, because he could get any female out there with the cash he has. Well first rape is about a certain power trip over another. And second he already has had more then enough of all the hot chicks out there, after all like you all say he is rich and powerful and can get any female and has probably had more females because of that fact then probably a whole room of dudes combined at a frat party full of porn stars. But like every new and cool toy if you play with it enough it gets old, and you look for new things that are out there to play with. Now just imagine how many chicks he has had to have had sex with, to get tired of them and go for a less attractive ones. Anybody care to guess a number?

Really I think there is nothing to this whole thing but the same ol same ol bull # thats always being spin'd for one interest or another, in fact the whole thing can be a fake/show and he could be retiring to some island with plenty of maids and chicks. It's all smoke and mirrors people me thinks.

''Believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see'' Benjamin Franklin.

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:3v0lv3r - I concur with your post - similar to what I was thinking and well worded.

the complient media circus makes me want to throw up , i hope he exposes this setup publically in the courts
and names the conspiritors if thats known to him

if this doesnt go according to plan whatch the maid be suicided

I have to admit, the whole allegation seems fishy....I don't understand why an old man who can afford $3000 / night at a hotel wouldn't just hire a hooker...instead of attempting rape on a staff worker at the hotel. It doesn't make much sense to me at all....

Still...I am not about to say he didn't do it. We're only spectators here...we don't have the evidence or the knowledge about what really happened.

Originally posted by henriquefd
Nobody needs to rape anybody. Sex is easily availabe everywhere. That dude was probably framed. AND if he was paying in accord to the interest of TPTB they would be helping him by not giving too much publicity on this. But they are bringing him down to fulfill TPTB agenda. I hope Srkozy doesnt win.

Well with logic there is no such thing as the crime of rape and all the cases that have , are and ever will be are just lies within a conspiracy. DUH!

It is far more likely that a man in a powerful position faced with a woman in a servile position.....took advantage. We KNOW that has happened throughout history, CONTINUES to take place today and is GUARANTEED to continue in the future.

See no need to invent conspiracies, back to that old human nature thing.

Or maybe, just maybe... He is a scumbag who thought he could get away with anything?

Just throwing it out there, but it'll be a boring conspiracy theory.

ETA: sorry the guy above me said the same thing

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Rape does exist, but it is actually most common among kin, and of course among low income communities, where crime rates are also higher. I think his argument is no different than what I said. Why would he have to rape her if he could have just hired a prostitute? And why right before his flight back to France?

Does someone like him really have the nerve and audacity to commit such a reckless act?

This is such a clear set up that it is worth to study
the modus operandi of those who initiated it and see who is cooperating to what degree to learn, to what degree they have been corrupted, like the NYPD, the NY justic apparatus, the MEDIA...

Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by Chrysalis
DSK, the above mentioned Dominique is part of the elite...
He's been with the Bilderberg for over a decade.

My opinion, if he's been set up is :
- Ever since the fall of the Berlin Wall, there's been in Europe a battle amongst parties so as to position themselves for the following.
- That event served as the foundation for the forcing into people's minds that communism was dead, and capitalism the victor.
- Crazy times we know about with the excesses of liberalism, hedge funds, tax havens, sub-primes...
- Meanwhile, in Europe, happened the "Shift". Traditional Right parties started adopting an even more rightish stance, paving the way for the re-inforcement of the far-right brigades.
-Traditional left / socialist parties mostly shifted their stance to a more liberal / centrist approach.
-The french socialist party is actually the bad sheep in Europe. Many times, the left group of the EU parliament asked the french socialist party to let go of the more leftish ideas.
-But given the political situation in france, as the socialists start losing votes to more extreme left parties, they veered left again.
-Here comes DSK, he was the guy chosen by the elite to rule in france and force from within the socialist party a more liberal policy.

Bad luck, bad temper, bad karma... I don't really care. The dude has Bilderberg tattooed all over his face. He certainly is not some kind of savior for the poor, he's the last nail in the coffin.

Yeah, I have a hard time believing DSK is a nice guy. I think DSK was set up to be ruined, because he has gotten in the way of even more powerful people.

Yes, nice guy is taking it too far, imo. BUT it seems he was standing up against the Cabal, and for more fair and equitable practices, and a redistribution of wealth. That's enough to put anyone in danger of having their reputation shredded or their life terminated.

Originally posted by kykweer
Or maybe, just maybe... He is a scumbag who thought he could get away with anything?

Just throwing it out there, but it'll be a boring conspiracy theory.

ETA: sorry the guy above me said the same thing

edit on 20-5-2011 by kykweer because: (no reason given)

It's possible, but when someone who is standing up to the cabal is smeared in this way, or 'suicides' themself, or has an airplane 'accident' there are real questions which must be asked.

If the reports are correct, he was implementing change in banking practices which weren't in the interest of the banksters, was intending to implement a redistrubution of wealth of some kind and had just handed over evidence against Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Bush, Obama, Clinton, Greenspan.

SO, questions MUST be asked.

As I've alrealdy said in an earlier post, Hillary Clinton's State Department had instructed diplomats to collect DNA samples, personal details, credit card numbers, etc of pretty much all significant people across the world.

That in itself is suspect, and is just the kind of information and data which would enable the CIA to set someone up.

Originally posted by matito
To those who think DSK is incapable of committing an (alleged) sexual assault I would like to say this...

Look through the eyes of the utra-powerful and rich...
Any person in power can hire someone to satisfy their sexual desires on a whim... Yet someone in power can eventually grow bored a this type of easily obtained (and sometimes compensated) sexual experience..

Over time, there is no more excitement in this form of common sexual arousal and eventually it becomes more about an emotional high to push the boundaries and limits of what can be done without consequences - about pushing the limits of personal power and influence.

Look at Clinton - You think he really needed to screw around with an intern? I personally think it was more about the thrill than the act.. I'm not saying this is what happened to DSK - I'm just saying that people of power think more of the emotional rush and excitement than the physical sex..

When someone is powerful and rich, consensual sex (paid or not) becomes as easy as ordering delivery pizza... This can become uninteresting to those in power and eventually result in more aggressive thrill-seeking behavior.. not saying this is what happened - yet it is something I think is commonplace among the elite...

I'm not saying this is the case with DSK - just something to consider...

I'm not saying I have ever thought he is incapable of commiting a sexual assault. I have no idea if he is or not. What I am saying is that based on the info I have seen to date, I have valid reasons to doubt the OS.

Originally posted by XmikaX

Originally posted by wcitizen

a key player who was working against the interests of the cabal and in the interests of the world population.

if he was he would never have become fmi director in first place.

better not forget :

+ it is sarkozy himself that proposed strauss-khan for fmi director at the time.

+ strauss khan is zionist

almost sure he's been set up, but why ? there's something else, something more, out of the scope of the common people that we are.

edit on 20-5-2011 by XmikaX because: (no reason given)

Yes, but there are occasionally people who decide enough is enough and start to challenge TPTB. They don't usually last long.

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of course he's capable of it !

his tendencies are very well known among french media and politics; that's not the question.

the question is why he's been allowed to be caught

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yes, but dsk doesn't fit that profile at all... (i'm french it's not like i've heard about dsk just because of this story)

Whenever a major player is accused of something, know that he is going down for a reason unrelated to his escapade. Strauss-Kann, and Elliott Spitzer are two examples. There is some truth to the stories, but if they were working for the big boys, their dalliances would have been ignored. Strauss-Kann is probably a complete setup or fabrication, but this will get him out of the running.

This is a complete setup. I mean come on, it doesn't make any sense. Old guy, especially a powerful public figure, doesn't wake up one day and say to himself, "Geez, I feel like raping someone." And actually rapes someone especially in his hotel room. Just think about it.

Originally posted by henriquefd
Nobody needs to rape anybody. Sex is easily availabe everywhere. That dude was probably framed. AND if he was paying in accord to the interest of TPTB they would be helping him by not giving too much publicity on this. But they are bringing him down to fulfill TPTB agenda. I hope Srkozy doesnt win.

Yet rape is one of the most common violent crimes.. I don't know if he's guilty or just being set up, but rape does happen and all different types of people, from the poor to the rich to the all powerful do it. It's stupid to just shrug it off.

Originally posted by kykweer
Or maybe, just maybe... He is a scumbag who thought he could get away with anything?

Just throwing it out there, but it'll be a boring conspiracy theory.

ETA: sorry the guy above me said the same thing

edit on 20-5-2011 by kykweer because: (no reason given)

That is ABSOLUTELY a possibility. H has a reported history of sexually aggressive behavior, and the word from the French pres is that he had a penchant for high class hookers.

But there are several other VERY PLAUSIBLE possibilities as well, especially when one understands the enormous weight of his sudden removal from his position at the IMF. As others have noted, this is basically economic warfare between the Euroand Dollar. DSK was essentially anti-dollar. And here is is getting caught with his pants down while on US soil.

And then there is the most OBVIOUS FLAG of the way he is already being tried in the media. The police quote the first day in nearly every story saying him leaving his cell phone behind is evidence that he 'left in a hurry' should raise anyone's eyebrows. Police DO NOT DO THAT in an ongoing investigation.

Then there's the issue of the tweet from a political rival just minutes after the arrest. Inside information from someone??

Ad even if he isnt found guilty, his political career is likely destroyed in France, and the IMF already has an interim leader who will likely shift policy away from the course DSK would have taken. Both of those consequences is enough to make someone suspicious.

This is NOT ABOUT DEFENDING DSK from the allegations. He may very well be a rapist, or at least an attempted rapist. But when one considers all the funny, not-quite-right actors of this story, one can begin to see some cracks in the facade.

ETA: But, hey, if it benefits the dollar, I suppose that benefit s me. So snip it. Burn the guy!!!!!

The New York Times reports Erick Schneiderman, New York's attorney general, is pushing forward with a new investigation of the wall street banks. Here's a noteworthy quote from the aticle:

By opening a new inquiry into bank practices, Mr. Schneiderman has indicated his unwillingness to accept one of the settlement’s terms proposed by financial institutions — that is, a broad agreement by regulators not to conduct additional investigations into the banks’ activities during the mortgage crisis. Mr. Schneiderman has said in recent weeks that signing such a release was unacceptable. ~ New York Times

"It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be revolution before tomorrow morning." ~ Henry Ford

It eludes me that we as a nation are still complacent with all of this. The following images are of the Washington Mutual Tower in Seattle, WA. Foreshadowing the resulting impact of the banking ponzi-scheme on the US Empire.

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The understatement.

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The beginning of the fall.

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More decay.

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The eventual collapse.

It appears that even when the plan is openly foreshadowed, revealed (apocalypse), and in motion the masses prefer the illusion. I hold the hope that righteous anger will eventually ensue. Please brothers and sisters, Wake from this nightmare. (I know I'm preaching to the choir here)