Harold Camping Ulterior Motive for The Rapture prediction

I'm starting to wonder how much money, exactly, Mr. Camping has gained since announcing his Rapture prediction a couple of years back. I've read a few places online that some of his followers sold their cars and houses to prepare for this event.

Others have left empty houses, sold antiques, disposed of art collections or given up cars and other expensive items to join the road trip of doom. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

What if he were somehow working with TPTB? Would it surprise anyone if this were some higher conspiracy to rid some of the christian extremists of their possessions/money to leave them destitute, thus more easily controlled, should disaster strike? Could the money he gains secure him a place in a bunker should it come down to such circumstances?

Just musing aloud about this.

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He predicted the Rapture to happen in September of 1994 also....Yet sheeple still follow the leader??? COME ON!!

I feel bad for all those that follow this guy, a false prophet.

He didn't have enough money for a bunker in 1994...

Despite his conviction, Camping has predicted the world would end before - on September 4 1994. That, he says, was a mistake, a misreading of the biblical codes used to decipher the exact date of the 'rapture'. In order to get the warning out in time he fudged his calculations, a mistake he maintains he did not make this time.

Uh...

I mean, he didn't do his Bible math correctly.

Well, we are only a few days away now, and if he is just some crazy, nothing will happen. Or if he is real, something unimaginable will happen. Or if he is working for TPTB, well what could they have up their sleeves? Fema and the Military are conducting their drills all around the new madrid fault..............maybe I'll take my family on a trip this weekend, away from the fault, just in case.

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Maybe it's just a disinfo campaign...so when several thousand people mysteriously disappear everyone left behind will go "Hey...they were right."

Woops! There are a couple of trhings that must happen first.

" Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, a...s that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition."
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3

Harold is just a old Christian man who believes what he believes...There doesn't have to be a conspiracy behind every event, even though they are behind most...He spent his own money for this..It's just sad people have sold their stuff and I don't know why they did as even if it were true, they couldn't carry the money with them, or anything else for that matter.....When old people, and some young, get set in their ways you cannot change them...

Originally posted by delrio256
Woops! There are a couple of trhings that must happen first.

" Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, a...s that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition."
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3

If Barry Soetoro isn't the man of sin he missed his calling....

Originally posted by camaro68ss
I feel bad for all those that follow this guy, a false prophet.

EXACTLY!!!! If this was the OT time period, he would have been stoned to death in 1994.

Then after that people would think thrice about making these predictions.

It's pretty sad to think that there are Christians who think Jesus was wrong when he said no man will know the day or the hour.

Originally posted by zillah
I'm starting to wonder how much money, exactly, Mr. Camping has gained since announcing his Rapture prediction a couple of years back. I've read a few places online that some of his followers sold their cars and houses to prepare for this event.

Others have left empty houses, sold antiques, disposed of art collections or given up cars and other expensive items to join the road trip of doom. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

What if he were somehow working with TPTB? Would it surprise anyone if this were some higher conspiracy to rid some of the christian extremists of their possessions/money to leave them destitute, thus more easily controlled, should disaster strike? Could the money he gains secure him a place in a bunker should it come down to such circumstances?

Just musing aloud about this.

First of all I think HC is a fraud.

- But he doesn't benefit from anything anyone sells.
- Those who do sell stuff at least are showing some faith (misguided but at least you have to admit if some are selling and giving it away they do have faith).
- Anyone who was aksed to sell stuff and send it to the person who said the world was ending, should have a red flag as the one predicting the end wouldn't need it either in which case we aren't dealing with Christian Extremists, we are dealing with gullible idiots and you don't have to be a Christian Rxtremeist be be a gullible idiot - just look at the markets and investments of recent years.

There is no alterior motive. he's just one of the ones the BIble warns about that will come near the end. So ys, the end is near, but not upon us. When there is a year no one predicts Christ will come will probably be the correct year.

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Quoting KJV does not make one more rightous, holy or more accurate. Why is it that modern religious people use language that no one else actually uses any more. Most don't even undertsand the meaning of some words. They think 1 Corinthians 13 is taking about giving money to charities instead of love (for example)

However, if you want to be really 'holy', start speaking Hebrew or Greek.

The word we all quote from, regartdless of version, states that the word cannot save us. If you can figure out what does you'll stop quoting KJV due to religious reasons. We see it all as an english language thing when the languae of God is not English and he doesn't favour the English language over any other. This screws a few heads regarding KJV in other languages which when translated isn't KJV anymore.

However, it is graceful and poetic and if we grasped the meaning of some words we'd learn more and speak better. However, what about a BIble in txt speak - it will come.

Bible math. He didn't carry the 7.
I hear that he's still accepting and collecting donations.

4 possibilities:

1. He is simply scamming all those people, eventually he will run off and hide somewhere with all their money. some will claim he ascended to heaven, saved, but his followers didnt because they had sinned too much. of course the reality is that he just went into hiding in some other country and now hes super rich.

2. Theres a bigger agenda and he backed by the power that be or the elites. he in fact does know something, and that an event will occur which will make his prediction a reality, the idea is clear and the plan is set. later the true reasons behind this would be revealed.

3. Theres an agenda to destroy Christianity using such method

4. He really just believes it, if him and his followers dont go up to heaven on the 21st then he has 2 choices, 1. accept it like a man. 2, go nuts and orders his followers to kill or commit suicide.

can anyone show the bible math solution he did? I am very curious

According to the Church's website, there are two 'proofs' that May 21 2011 is the judgement day.

According to them, Noah's great flood occurred in the year 4990 B.C., 'exactly' 7000 years ago.

At the time, God said to Noah he had seven days before the flood would begin.

Taking a passage from 2 Peter 3:8, in which it is said a day for God is like a thousand human years, the church reasoned that seven 'days' equals 7000 human years from the time of the flood,making 2011 the year of the apocalypse.

In its second 'proof' the exact date is revealed by working forward from the exact date of the of the crucifixion - April 1, 33 AD.

According to their reasoning, there are exactly 722,500 days from April 1, 33 A.D. until May 21, 2011 - the alleged day of judgement.

This number can be represented as follows: 5 x 10 x 17 x 5 x 10 x 17 = 722,500.

The church then argues that numbers in the bible have special meanings, with the number 5 signifying atonement or redemption, the number 10 signifying 'completeness' and the number 17 equalling heaven.

According to their reasoning, there are exactly 722,500 days from April 1, 33 A.D. until May 21, 2011 - the alleged day of judgement.

This number can be represented as follows: 5 x 10 x 17 x 5 x 10 x 17 = 722,500.

722,500/365.2 + 33 = 2011.3680175246440306681270536692

Converted to years, that's 2011 years and 134 days.

add in the 91 days that lead up to April 1st, that's 255 days into the year 2011.

Wouldn't that turn out around August 12th?

I'm probably doing my math wrong, any help?

I dont buy any of his "calculations", but...

What if on May 21st we actually witness a spectacular event of some sort? (strange phenomena, UFOs in plain sight, whatever...)

What if Mr. Camping is working hand in hand with TPTB and the May 21st hype will be used to stage an event?

Or what if TPTB actually use christianity to set in motion a plan? Im sure they have figured a large chunk of the population believe in these things.

I mean, the May 21st date and the hype in the MSM could well be the ultimate decoy for TPTB to make their next move. Its funny because the media does not usually devote so much energy on religious topics.


Now, Im actually starting to expect something on May 21st 2011.

Originally posted by Caji316
Harold is just a old Christian man who believes what he believes...There doesn't have to be a conspiracy behind every event, even though they are behind most...He spent his own money for this..It's just sad people have sold their stuff and I don't know why they did as even if it were true, they couldn't carry the money with them, or anything else for that matter.....When old people, and some young, get set in their ways you cannot change them...

LOL @ "just a(sic) old Christian man"...

I guess, if by "old Christian man" you mean a scamming old pig that fleeces
money from his imbecilic flock.

This clown has been taking money from fools his whole adult life...

Darn old folks, set in their ways.

He is basing his 'Vision' on Fairytale Calculations,

i may not be savvy on all the 'Religious Propaganda' but did ""God"" say there was going to be another flood? or did he just assume it will occur every 7000 years?